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[RavenForsaken]

I was checking iRO Wiki for optimum weapon damage when using Feint Bomb with True Gertie Wie Card.

 

Feint Bomb :

 

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Feint_Bomb

 

True Gertie Wie Card:

 

http://db.irowiki.or...item-info/4694/

 

 

I noticed Shadow Chasers don't have good enough options for Lvl4 Bows.

 

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Bow

 

 

I was thinking maybe the best Weapon to use would be a +10 Red Twin Edge.

 

http://db.irowiki.or...tem-info/13413/

 

I actually found out about Catapult [2]

 

http://db.irowiki.or...tem-info/18109/

 

 

 

 

My questions: Is Feint Bomb Considered  Long-Ranged Damage?

 

What if I use x1 True Gertie Wie Card and x2 Archer Skeleton Cards in a +10 Red Twin Edge?

 

 

Edited by RavenForsaken, 31 March 2018 - 11:50 AM.

[fenrir99]

It’ll be considered long range damage if you wear a bow while casting it or melee if wearing a sword/dagger etc. You can test it with pneuma just for the record.

Regardless of its range it is affected by base DEX as well as your ATK, that’s why it is more common to wear a bow instead of swords/daggers. People usually cast Severe Rainstorm to proc +200 DEX bonus with its multiple hits and then cast an overpowered Feint Bomb.

I have no idea what damage a Quad True Gertie +10 Valk Knife in a set up full STR/ATK would be, but that’s a possibility. If you think of any way to proc a +200 DEX bonus while wearing the Valk Knife I’m sure the damage would be great.

Edit: try it whenever Sakray opens, should be soon

Edited by fenrir99, 31 March 2018 - 10:10 AM.

[RavenForsaken]

It’ll be considered long range damage if you wear a bow while casting it or melee if wearing a sword/dagger etc. You can test it with pneuma just for the record.

Regardless of its range it is affected by base DEX as well as your ATK, that’s why it is more common to wear a bow instead of swords/daggers. People usually cast Severe Rainstorm to proc +200 DEX bonus with its multiple hits and then cast an overpowered Feint Bomb.

I have no idea what damage a Quad True Gertie +10 Valk Knife in a set up full STR/ATK would be, but that’s a possibility. If you think of any way to proc a +200 DEX bonus while wearing the Valk Knife I’m sure the damage would be great.

Edit: try it whenever Sakray opens, should be soon

Thanks a lot man. I think You only need One True Gertie, I Doubt they Stack.

 

The Dex +2 per upgrade lvl on Valk Knife only works for Novice Class it reads.

 

+10 Catapult [2] http://db.irowiki.or...tem-info/18109/ Seems to be the right Bow for this.

 

Sakray will let me use all items  without me hunting or buying them?

Edited by RavenForsaken, 31 March 2018 - 12:41 PM.

[vividort]

True cards stack, the effect ain't part of a combo, its a condition that has to be met for each card to give the bonus. The combo part between the mvp card won't stack.

[fenrir99]

True cards stack, the effect ain't part of a combo, its a condition that has to be met for each card to give the bonus. The combo part between the mvp card won't stack.

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Because they stack, Valk Knife is the best weapon for Bio5 cards. Not for its DEX bonus, if any, it is because is a level 4 weapon with 4 slots. Even for WLs, Valk Knife is the best option for True KK cards instead of their high MATK staffs. If we get any level 4 Bow with 4 and even 3 slots it would be better for Feint Bomb.

Yes, you should be able to test this set up in Sakray, where you get most of the stuff via NPC

[RavenForsaken]

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Because they stack, Valk Knife is the best weapon for Bio5 cards. Not for its DEX bonus, if any, it is because is a level 4 weapon with 4 slots. Even for WLs, Valk Knife is the best option for True KK cards instead of their high MATK staffs. If we get any level 4 Bow with 4 and even 3 slots it would be better for Feint Bomb.

Yes, you should be able to test this set up in Sakray, where you get most of the stuff via NPC

 

 

True cards stack, the effect ain't part of a combo, its a condition that has to be met for each card to give the bonus. The combo part between the mvp card won't stack.

Understood, Thank you guys!

 

Is 50m Over Priced?

 

I think They should Each cost 20m.

 

Edited by RavenForsaken, 31 March 2018 - 04:31 PM.

[Usurper]

It only costs 50m in Chaos? wow looks like they don't know how destructive this card can be when used properly lol.

 

I'd buy 4 ASAP if I were you.

 

Edit**

 

Just checked Ragial  and it costs 300m, Buy that 50m card now.

Edited by Usurper, 31 March 2018 - 06:10 PM.

[RavenForsaken]

It only costs 50m in Chaos? wow looks like they don't know how destructive this card can be when used properly lol.

 

I'd buy 4 ASAP if I were you.

 

Edit**

 

Just checked Ragial  and it costs 300m, Buy that 50m card now.

300M seems astronomically over priced in my opinion. Especially if you need to buy 4 of these cards.

 

1. More importantly, as of right now, Shadow Chasers don't even have a Lvl4 Bow with 4slots to use this build at it's full potential.

 

2. I don't know no other skills other than Severe Rainstorm that can proc Hawkeye(+200Dex) more efficiently. 

 

I Just Checked Ragial Renewal and it says 50m is Average price. 

http://ragial.org/item/iRO-Renewal/VhI

 

4Cards x 20M = 80M   <---This seems Legit    

 

Even 50M seems over priced without a Lvl4  4Slotted Bow.

Edited by RavenForsaken, 31 March 2018 - 10:01 PM.

[fenrir99]

Any skill or autoattack should proc Hawkeye, you could try Bowling Bash or any other spammable skill in your STR/ATK set up.

[RavenForsaken]

Any skill or autoattack should proc Hawkeye, you could try Bowling Bash or any other spammable skill in your STR/ATK set up.

I was thinking the same thing, Thanks for confirming my thoughts fenrir99 

I'll test Bowling Bash first.

 

Every time I look at your Avatar, I think to myself, I can always trust that Chris Hemsworth face.

Edited by RavenForsaken, 02 April 2018 - 09:56 AM.

[fenrir99]

I was thinking the same thing, Thanks for confirming my thoughts fenrir99
I'll test Bowling Bash first.

Every time I look at your Avatar, I think to myself, I can always trust that Chris Hemsworth face.

Keep us updated, I want to see the damage

[Usurper]

Lava Flow should take the 2nd spot following Severe Rainstorm in proc'ing skills. Since you wont be using bows you should give it a try.

Edited by Usurper, 04 April 2018 - 01:24 PM.

[RavenForsaken]

Lava Flow should take the 2nd spot following Severe Rainstorm in proc'ing skills. Since you wont be using bows you should give it a try.

O wow, I never thought of copying this skill. Thank you so much Dude, I can't wait to try it 

By the way, I took your advice and was willing to pay 50M for each. I Bought the first two for 50M. The third for 60M and the 4th for 70M because Vendors will be Hagglers   .

 

Oh well, at least now I can actually test this build when I get my weapon.

Edited by RavenForsaken, 04 April 2018 - 01:39 PM.

[Usurper]

That skill was used by @mildcontempt so credits goes to him.

IMO you got a great deal for those cards. With the right set up, you might even be able to kill people in WoE sort of like a mini suicidal destruction (wearing reflect gears to proc HE + frost nova+ wind converter then feint bomb). The only problem is looking for a decent weapon to slot those cards in.

Edited by Usurper, 04 April 2018 - 03:09 PM.

[RavenForsaken]

That skill was used by @mildcontempt so credits goes to him.

IMO you got a great deal for those cards. With the right set up, you might even be able to kill people in WoE sort of like a mini suicidal destruction (wearing reflect gears to proc HE + frost nova+ wind converter then feint bomb). The only problem is looking for a decent weapon to slot those cards in.

+10 Valkyrie Knife [4] seems Ideal for this build.

 

I think this build might even be viable for PvM  with Evil Dragon Armor for Lvln. I'll test it in NCT.

 

This might just be a do it all build with the right set of Gear. Well maybe not MvP ofcourse 

Edited by RavenForsaken, 05 April 2018 - 09:02 AM.

[RavenForsaken]

Lava Flow should take the 2nd spot following Severe Rainstorm in proc'ing skills. Since you wont be using bows you should give it a try.

Hey, which skill should I preserve to combo with Lava Flow?, Like a really awesome Combo. Something that won't break my weapon, since I'm using Thieves' Guide Vol.1 [1] Maximum Power-Thrust.

Edited by RavenForsaken, 05 April 2018 - 08:59 AM.

[Zayaan]

I would suggest not using Maximum Power Thrust since its bonus towards skills is not worth mentioning and it's a hassle to have to FCP yourself. Great for regular attacks, though.

[Usurper]

Hey, which skill should I preserve to combo with Lava Flow?, Like a really awesome Combo. Something that won't break my weapon, since I'm using Thieves' Guide Vol.1 [1] Maximum Power-Thrust.

Yeah, as Zayaan stated, don't bother using MPT if not using regular attacks. 

 

As for Intimidate, aside from Bowling Bash you can also try Magnum Break lvl 10.

 

What's your stat build anyway and how's the Feint Bomb Damage?

Edited by Usurper, 05 April 2018 - 10:48 AM.

[RavenForsaken]

I would suggest not using Maximum Power Thrust since its bonus towards skills is not worth mentioning and it's a hassle to have to FCP yourself. Great for regular attacks, though.

Thank You 

 

Yeah, as Zayaan stated, don't bother using MPT if not using regular attacks. 

 

As for Intimidate, aside from Bowling Bash you can also try Magnum Break lvl 10.

 

What's your stat build anyway and how's the Feint Bomb Damage?

At the moment I haven't gotten a hold on a +9Temp Str Hawkeye FS7. I'm trying to buy one.

If you know anyone selling one, please let me know or tell them to hold it for me.

 

IGN:

 

RavenGrim  (Shadow Chaser)

 

Dr.Grim        (Geneticist)

 

Updated: 5/28/2018

Feint Bomb Build

 

Main Gear:

 

+12 Heart Wing Hairband [clean] <--Thinking of putting a Carat Card in here.

+10 Quadruple Decoy Valkyrie Knife [x4True Gertie Wie Card]

+8 Resistant Gaia Shield [Hodremlin Card]

+9 Medical Srubs [Argiope Card]

+9Temp Str Hawkeye FS7 (Counter Instinct Procs Hawkeye)

+9HBP with Wak Wak

  Mob Scarf Set

  Edurate Sunglasses [Deviruchi Card]

  Perverse Demon Mask [Kafra Blossom Card]

  Emerald Ring [Kafra Blossom Card]

 

 Swap for Leeching HP/SP:

 

+9 Peerles Vanargand Helm [Marduk] 

+9 / +10 Black Wing [Hunter Fly Card] = Fatal Menace HP Leech Mobs

+10 Evil Dragon Armor

+9 / +12 Temp Str Lucky Day FS7

 

Swap for Fire Endow:

 

+7 Leo Crown ( If you plan on hunting Gold Scaraba or just want to do Fire Damage Physical Attacks) 

 

My Stats are:

 

Str 120 +

Agi 90+

Vit  90+

Int  4 + 

Dex 101 +

Luk 90 +

 

I was also One shotting Big Bells in NCT with the +9 Happy Flapping Angel Wings [Deviruchi Card] and Feint Bomb.

 

One Feint Bomb One Shots Big Bells (NCT).

Edited by RavenForsaken, 28 May 2018 - 06:27 PM.

[Usurper]

Since you don't have HE yet, You can try other skills for Reproduce like Shield Spell(Not sure if this skill works with Mad Bunny Shield) and then Frost Nova on Intimidate.

 

Kite mobs(big bells)> Hide > Sightless Mind> Frost Nova(Use Wind Conv)> Feint Bomb, just test it out if to see what gives more damage.

[RavenForsaken]

Since you don't have HE yet, You can try other skills for Reproduce like Shield Spell(Not sure if this skill works with Mad Bunny Shield) and then Frost Nova on Intimidate.

 

Kite mobs(big bells)> Hide > Sightless Mind> Frost Nova(Use Wind Conv)> Feint Bomb, just test it out if to see what gives more damage.

Seems like a lot of work; but  I will take note of this. Hopefully the mobs let me hide in peace     

[Usurper]

It does look like a lot of work just stick to what you're doing. Post some screen shots if possible so we could see the damage.

[RavenForsaken]

It does look like a lot of work just stick to what you're doing. Post some screen shots if possible so we could see the damage.

I'm gonna PM you in game and make a party so you can Screenshot for me or stream it if you like. I don't think I can Multitask that well. Just Send RavenGrim a Friend Request.

[Usurper]

Sounds great but unfortunately I am from Thor.

[walkingdoods]

or you could try throw stone stone fling to proc hawkeye