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[Creusebek]

He looks pretty good tbh, got 2 from the current OCP and i got a question:

Lets say i have a Nab with DLEF3, a Temporal Boots with DLEF2 and on the ring itself a DLEF1, will it add 15%+ ATK?
And if it does, do you consider it useful? i mean, i'm pretty new to having acess on this kind of items so i'm kinda lost. 
Is it better than Keraunos?
Explain like i'm five please.

[BlackMeow]

Depends on your stacked eATK. It is better than keraunos if you have 1 or more DLEF in terms of atk%

Its good. Having 3 DLEFs is like having the enforcer shoes' atk bonus. Its better if you put it in 2 acce and mid gear.

DLEF3 on main(right) accessory
DLEF2 on mid
DLEF1 on DGR

[Creusebek]

Depends on your stacked eATK. It is better than keraunos if you have 1 or more DLEF in terms of atk%

Its good. Having 3 DLEFs is like having the enforcer shoes' atk bonus. Its better if you put it in 2 acce and mid gear.

DLEF3 on main(right) accessory
DLEF2 on mid
DLEF1 on DGR

Okay but,

1º What does the "e" in "eATK" stands for?
2º Whats the formula to calculate how much in atk i will receive?
In better words: the ring says it adds 5% atk, but when i equip it i just simply don't see any difference at all, same with Keraunos and i have 204+433 ATK..
How much do i need to increase my ATK to see any difference at all? +500? +600? 

[BlackMeow]

equipATK

 

% atk doesnt show in the status window. test it in izlude eggs without any weapon and comeback here if your damage didn't increase. 

 

btw, 204+433 atk means you have 204 (status atk) + 433 (weapon + equip atk)

 

 

[Nirvanna21]

Little did anyone know that there is a good chance it isn't Atk % but something else :U

[YongkySH]

Little did anyone know that there is a good chance it isn't Atk % but something else :U

What is this something else?

[Nirvanna21]

What is this something else?

 

I made the source code to my calc public, you guys work it out :U

[Creusebek]

equipATK

 

% atk doesnt show in the status window. test it in izlude eggs without any weapon and comeback here if your damage didn't increase. 

 

btw, 204+433 atk means you have 204 (status atk) + 433 (weapon + equip atk)

I understand that it doesn't show on the status tab 
and i recognize that i didn't expressed myself clearly.
I meant that on my damage it i can't see the increase, or if it does exist is in the "10-99" damage increase, which means it's quite low to be even noticed
my real question is: how much in numbers do i NEED to increase my eATK or my ATK to notice a damage increase in hundreds or even thousands of damage?

Edited by Creusebek, 19 April 2018 - 10:21 AM.

[Kirito927]

Hi I do try for it , i not really sure the result is it show that the gear is work or not ,

I try to get my Rk eAtk about 1000, without chaging other part EQ but just the accessories ,

When i using DGR without DE + empty, my IB damage around 90k ,

When I using DGR with DE force2 + empty , my IB damage around 93k ,

When I using DGR with DE force2 + PDM DE force3 , my IB damage around 96k ,

I not really sure with so less damage increase is it from the set effect Atk 5% , or it just not working

Edited by Kirito927, 19 April 2018 - 03:31 PM.

[BlackMeow]

Hi I do try for it , i not really sure the result is it show that the gear is work or not ,

I try to get my Rk eAtk about 1000, without chaging other part EQ but just the accessories ,

When i using DGR without DE + empty, my IB damage around 90k ,

When I using DGR with DE force2 + empty , my IB damage around 93k ,

When I using DGR with DE force2 + PDM DE force3 , my IB damage around 96k ,

I not really sure with so less damage increase is it from the set effect Atk 5% , or it just not working

 

the damage increase probably came from DLE F 2 and 3 itself. not the bonus. maybe yeah it's bugged. 

[YongkySH]

https://www.divine-p...mon-gods-ring-1

https://www.divine-p...-april-20-2018/

It was weapon atk % bonus

Trolled lol

Edited by YongkySH, 19 April 2018 - 06:18 PM.

[Kirito927]

GG for those put DLE F3 into it , really trolled

By the way , this is orginal effect from Jro , or it is Iro version just like the dearest Excelion shield ?

[Nirvanna21]

GG for those put DLE F3 into it , really trolled

By the way , this is orginal effect from Jro , or it is Iro version just like the dearest Excelion shield ?

 

jRO used weapon attack as well.

[BlackMeow]

lmao. weapon atk only. i got trolled by that one.  

[Silvianna]

its not a troll if you know how weapon atk works

in fact, it can better bonus than Atk multiplier

 

"WeaponATK = floor[((BaseWeaponDamage + Variance + StatBonus + RefinementBonus + OverUpgradeBonus) × SizePenaltyMultiplier]"

 

 

 

 

[Kirito927]

https://www.divine-p...mon-gods-ring-1

https://www.divine-p...-april-20-2018/

It was weapon atk % bonus

Trolled lol

Guys , when i change server into Jro , it doesnt mentioned weapon Atk


[魔神の腕力1]と 
共に装備時、追加で 
物理攻撃で 
与えるダメージ + 5% 
――――――――――――― 
[魔神の腕力2]と 
共に装備時、追加で 
物理攻撃で 
与えるダメージ + 5% 
――――――――――――― 
[魔神の腕力3]と 
共に装備時、追加で 
物理攻撃で 
与えるダメージ + 5% 

[Silvianna]

to be honest, the ring could be bugged, however IF its really weapon atk

it is not that bad, it can be better than Atk multiplier, but situational.

 

after looking for the jRO version, it is said atk + 5% not weapon atk

also take a look the comparison

 

 

Giant's Protection

与えるダメージ + 5%

 

Atk + 5%

 

Demon God's Ring

与えるダメージ + 5%

 

becoming Weapon Atk ???

 

 

Edited by Silvianna, 19 April 2018 - 08:20 PM.

[Kirito927]

to be honest, the ring could be bugged, however IF its really weapon atk
it is not that bad, it can be better than Atk multiplier, but situational.

after looking for the jRO version, it is said atk + 5% not weapon atk
also take a look the comparison


Giant's Protection
[font='ＭＳ Ｐゴシック']与えるダメージ + 5%[/font]

[font='ＭＳ Ｐゴシック']Atk + 5%[/font]

Demon God's Ring
[font='ＭＳ Ｐゴシック']与えるダメージ + 5%[/font]

[font='ＭＳ Ｐゴシック']becoming Weapon Atk ???[/font]

Ya i do agree , it benefit to High Atk base weapon holder , example : GX with JDR

Or else , Atk % still better then it , in term of benefit and useful to mostly all physical atk class , is that camp or Cm can assist to be look into this issue ?

[Silvianna]

i think its bugged

 

what about the rest effect ? Max Hp, matk, etc 

 

gotta report to Mr. Camp

[Nirvanna21]

i think its bugged

 

what about the rest effect ? Max Hp, matk, etc 

 

gotta report to Mr. Camp

 

Is it though, are people testing it with a -_-ty weapon or a high base attack one? jRO one gives Weapon Atk %, it's description doesn't say so but Chuckle's source confirmed it.

 

Either gl :U

 

P.S. Stacking different multipliers can mean good things.

[Kirito927]

Too bad that Sakray no way to purchase the DLE , too hard to get something that enchant with it and test , somemore that DLE cant be desocket

[Silvianna]

Is it though, are people testing it with a -_-ty weapon or a high base attack one? jRO one gives Weapon Atk %, it's description doesn't say so but Chuckle's source confirmed it.

 

Either gl :U

 

P.S. Stacking different multipliers can mean good things.

 

if its weapon atk, 

anything with 400 base atk, over refined, and lv 4 yields the best result right 

[Kirito927]

if its weapon atk,
anything with 400 base atk, over refined, and lv 4 yields the best result right

Hurricane Fury atk 332
Lindy Hup atk 340
JDR atk 300

I cant find any weapon can be more then these /sob

Edited by Kirito927, 19 April 2018 - 09:00 PM.

[mildcontempt]

The shotgun, http://db.irowiki.or...tem-info/13192/

[Silvianna]

"Variance = ± 0.05 × WeaponLevel × BaseWeaponDamage"

lv 4 yields the best result

 

0.05 x 4 = 20%

either you do 20% lower damage, to 20% higher 

 

and with power maximize , you will always deal 20% higher.

stronger your base weapon atk, stronger the variance will be