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[DarkOrinus]

Those "Balances" are mostly buffs to classes, like homunculus going to 175 getting higher level skills etc. Not much of it is "balancing" whatsoever

 

that's sad lol. then i won't keep my hopes up further then

 

edit: as for dorams though, i think i remember someone going for an orc warrior imuke shield as far as PP goes. it was nice :x

Edited by DarkOrinus, 13 May 2018 - 03:55 PM.

[Toxn]

The class balances haven't even finished on kRO.

 

There was a Mech rebalance, with improvements to the horrible design of Mados.

 

There was a Chaser rebalance, with improvements to their PVM capabilities.

 

There was a homunculus rebalance, which removed custom AI at the cost of higher levels, slightly improved buffs, and master's exp going to the homun.

 

Then the last one released (or is being released, I honestly stopped paying attention to the dumb things kRO does) was Arch Bishop, which more or less just got a gwing to AB skill.

 

From the looks of it, kRO is planning to rebalance all 3rd classes before releasing the 185 rebirth update.

[ChakriGuard]

Awww they want to improve SC’s PvM capabilities instead of putting better rewards in WoE.

[KriticalAssassin]

1v1 a Doram will win most of the time, unless they get Pneuma up or something to stop the Doram from attacking. More than one person? Doram is , damage gets hammered by having lower health. And most Dorams can't deal with a lot of status effects, Crystalize is a real bitch.

Their stem root will hit you in pneuma and it flinch-locks you to put you in a state where you can't move/cast. Then the pneuma wears off and you get insta rekt. Also most of the time they take less dmg cause the race issue and do more dmg cause the race issue.

that's sad lol. then i won't keep my hopes up further then

edit: as for dorams though, i think i remember someone going for an orc warrior imuke shield as far as PP goes. it was nice :x

Then ur Effed for demi-human reducs from everyone else

Edited by KriticalAssassin, 13 May 2018 - 04:06 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

Their stem root will hit you in pneuma and it flinch-locks you to put you in a state where you can't move/cast. Then the pneuma wears off and you get insta rekt. Also most of the time they take less dmg cause the race issue and do more dmg cause the race issue.
Then ur Effed for demi-human reducs from everyone else

 

Gear swapping is important, I would swap Imuke Cranial to Imuke Orc Warrior depending on who I was facing.

 

And neat, gonna have to get Stem Root instead of 10% Atk buff :U

[KriticalAssassin]

Gear swapping is important, I would swap Imuke Cranial to Imuke Orc Warrior depending on who I was facing.
 
And neat, gonna have to get Stem Root instead of 10% Atk buff :U

Yeah, but what about when you have to go into a group of 5+? Normally you could use a cranial if they are all same race, now instead you can tank 4, but 1 will insta-gib you =\
Even if they were demi-human they'd still have some decent damage, lol.

[Icarus05]

Their are woe specific gears and armors, that do not effect dorams, Bellum/Glorious/Woe sets - these a meant for woe but don't apply to Doram. When people complained about Rapid throw it was nerfed. What about Dorams? I understand that this game isn't what it used to be, and the time it takes to implement changes/fixes are possibly much longer. But at the same time why allow a class that does not follow the rules of woe to take part in it?

 

Here's a thing..Bellum and WOE set is bugged at Doram and they are suppose to work at Doram.

 

If you remember the description, it said "players"

 

Dorams are set into a "monster" property instead of "player" property and this is why both sets are not working.

 

this thing is being addressed for a long time but kRO is busy doing new woe set against doram (which is basically a waste of time...just -_-ing fixed doram's property)

 

 

>so...if this thing is fixed..are we gonna have a fair woe?

 

Depends. dorams are like Buff Rangers. monstrous single DPS damage but can be reduced if you wear proper equipments. the equipments will be quite expensive. but if we fix the player status bug of doram. Doram's damage can be reduce by middle classes

Edited by Icarus05, 13 May 2018 - 04:44 PM.

[ChaoticRK]

The need to increase damage reduction in WoE. Let's say 80%.

Also, I don't think everyone on Chaos' WoE ground is a Doram? I would believe that there are more Suras than all class combined though on every WoE scene.

[DarkOrinus]

Then ur Effed for demi-human reducs from everyone else

 

not that i didn't consider, but if it is present woes with this amount of people this can be handy at times. haven't experienced in the larger scale of fights to be honest (and when i say large i mean real gvg lol)

 

contributing to the thread it was either;

 

he quits woe

he makes a doram for woe

he gets niche gears to counter dorams in woe

[ChakriGuard]

Sura is GX in PvM

 

Doram is Gen in PvM

[Nirvanna21]

Sura is GX in PvM

 

Doram is Gen in PvM

 

Other way around.

[ChakriGuard]

Other way around.

 

GX is Sura in WpE

 

Gen is Doram in WoE

 

???     

[Nirvanna21]

GX is Sura in WpE

 

Gen is Doram in WoE

 

???     

 

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[ChaoticRK]

GX is Sura of PvM
Gene is Doram of PvM

[Nirvanna21]

GX is Sura of PvM
Gene is Doram of PvM

 

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[Sigma1]

The next classes that will be balanced after Archbishop are performers. AFAIK performers can use song skills with bow.
And the next one is Mechanics again lol. KRO want to buff FAW skills to be viable.

[ShoLin]

I don't know why people only bitch about dorams when suras are just as broken if not more.

[Nirvanna21]

I don't know why people only bitch about dorams when suras are just as broken if not more.

 

It's called misdirection.

[ShoLin]

1v1 sura you're screwed CC wait for stoop to end, dead cat.

[Ilindith]

Sudoram is GeneX of OCP?

[ChakriGuard]

Which classes doesnt really die against Sura? That's like saying yo .. this -_-ing Gen can reach DPS of 1m/s but he is not broken because I see another GX whose DPS is 2m/s while other classes can do 100k/s lol

 

Talking in a circle. They will not do anything.  We all know this too. This thread is more like a ranting thread to be honest. We used to see this kind of Sura thread once in a while and even WoE is dead, Sura is even more OP than it was previously. Also People will root for their fav. class to play.

 

The only thing I regret of not getting while I was still doing WoE is the art where my RG vs 4 Suras. I already have my RG vs 4 Dorams art lol

 

[Nirvanna21]

Which classes doesnt really die against Sura? That's like saying yo .. this -_-ing Gen can reach DPS of 1m/s but he is not broken because I see another GX whose DPS is 2m/s while other classes can do 100k/s lol

 

Talking in a circle. They will not do anything.  We all know this too. This thread is more like a ranting thread to be honest. We used to see this kind of Sura thread once in a while and even WoE is dead, Sura is even more OP than it was previously. Also People will root for their fav. class to play.

 

The only thing I regret of not getting while I was still doing WoE is the art where my RG vs 4 Suras. I already have my RG vs 4 Dorams art lol

 

 

Now if we add a Bellum Flail to the art, it would be the other way around :U
 

[Hissis]

The only problem with Doram in terms of PvP/WoE is the fact that they are brute type.

 

Oh, and the fact that they exist as a class and Super Novice/SL and TKM are still in 2009 format.

 

 

Not like this actually matters, Gravity Balance patches are more for PvM when we have huge issues with PvP/WoE balance but they seem to ignore that and admit that the game is only PvM/RP.

[KriticalAssassin]

Now if we add a Bellum Flail to the art, it would be the other way around :U

Wut? What's a flail got to do with that fight?

[Nirvanna21]

Wut? What's a flail got to do with that fight?

 

RGs can tank Dorams like it's nobodies business, but the minute you disable their healing they are -_-.