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#1 Penguins

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:25 PM

So with the release of Time Ring (Kiel effect with Speed of Light Enchant combo) and Pilgrim Shoes (2x Kiel effect), what could the price of Kiel possibly fall down to?

 

 

Many popular cast delay reduction gears are now available to us:

 

Time Ring +30 CDR

Heart Wing Hairband +12-15 CDR

New Wave Glasses + 10CDR

Medical Scrubs / Diabolus Robe + 10CDR

Blacksmith Gloves + 10CDR

Perverse Demon Mask + 6CDR with 108 int

Fairy Leaf Powder +15 CDR
Chimera combo on accessories +3 CDR

Valkyrie Drop +5 CDR

Incoming Excellion Set +20 CDR

 

Rune Knight

Storm Stone & Peuz Set +70 CDR on gear swap for 10 seconds

 

Arch Bishop

Pilgrim Shoes AB +60 CDR

 

Swordsman

Tae Goo Lyeon +20 CDR

 

GX:

Enforcer Cape +11 CDR

 

Rebellion

Rebellion Scarf +5 CDR

 

Less popular alternatives:

Glorious Apocalypse + 5 CDR

Supplement Part Dex + 10 CDR

Skin of Gwiber + 12 CDR


Edited by Penguins, 14 June 2018 - 12:35 PM.

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#2 VanishingPoint

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:27 PM

Yes it is very worth it since you can stack Bear's Power for the +40 Str, but is it worth the price tag after the Temporal Ring updates? Only if you're super rich.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:28 PM

Kiel still worth it sure for when you cant wear temporal boots alongside it like on a warlock using survivor set/pororoca dont think price will be effected much cause this 


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#4 Hissis

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:32 PM

Yes, it's still worth.


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#5 LordYggdrasill

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:36 PM

Kiel will remain as an expensive high-end MVP Card. With a Kiel Card in your disposal, you can swap out HWHB by another top headgear for more DPS. With this being said, I do believe that theres much less incentive to stack with 2 x Kiel Cards nowadays, 1 Kiel should be more than sufficient.


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#6 Hogbae

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:41 PM

Depend on what you're doing. Kiel is always worth it if you can afford. Question is: are you willing to invest to increase your damage? - My answer is always yes to this, lol. I don't know yours.

 

Edit: LordYggdrasil said it all. 1 Kiel is more than enough with this combo.


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#7 ChakriGuard

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:01 PM

Kiel owners say yes and Kiel protenrial buyers say no.

I play only RG and my honest answer is no it is not worth if you play RG.

Kiel will not be replaced. Just like other MvPs, they are partilly replaced. However I think in the future, you will need only one Kiel rather than two Kiels. That’s a big plus imo.

MoT vs Ice pick
Samurai vs Def bypass gears
Gloom vs Abyss dress
Kiel vs After cast delay gears
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Edited by ChakriGuard, 14 June 2018 - 04:05 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:26 PM

Hmmmm... It depends on how you use it or on which char etc...  Instead of using "vs" might as well pair them... You should know what really works and what doesnt...
 
My main char which is a ranger (pure as)... I use samurai + tg, amda + def bypass gears (no ww set) My normal hit is 600k-700k no buffs, foods, elements... When buffed, elements, foods, 800k-900k. No limits at 1.5m to 2m.
 
Regarding Kiel and other MvPs... They are the best if you just know how to use it...

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#9 Varignon

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:27 PM

Will they modify the temporal ring or not? Because it can be use on both accessory slots


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:11 PM

Even if can use on both slots, you only get the bonus once.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:19 PM

Yeah, you just won't need as many kiels as before.
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#12 1299150619045824270

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 01:47 AM

Ofcourse it is, lol..why would you think kiel price should go down? 

 

while you can get 100% delay without kiels, you are 100% less damage than if you used kiels....simple as that...so yes its still worth it...


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 03:39 AM

Eh there are always those situations where your animation delay / aspd is longer than the skill cooldown. In those cases Kiel does nothing. So its total overall use cases will narrow. Doesn't make it less good. Just not as necessary.
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#14 vanhdic

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 08:52 PM

Nope all head gear now it's no cast delay for sura ab Magnus gene cc rk black ribbon wind cuter gx don't need much
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