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#1 RYTB

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 03:43 PM

Seeking help in answering some questions regarding summons:

 

1) I am planning on maxing Vador on my Crec but am clueless on where the attack damage of the said summon base it. Is it on my MP or AP?

2) Do all DOT summons (defensive and offensive) base their effects on MP only?

3) Does Illusion of Moonlight drop Moonlight DNA?

 

Hope someone could clarify these inquiries.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 11:25 PM

1.  Pets get attack damage from a combination of Attack Power and Magic Power.

2.  See above.

3.  I believe only the dungeon Moonlight drops her DNA.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 06:39 AM

1.  Pets get attack damage from a combination of Attack Power and Magic Power.

2.  See above.

3.  I believe only the dungeon Moonlight drops her DNA.

 

Oooohhhh, so that means Vador and other hitting summons get damage from both? Like Stainer, etc?

 

Err, I've tried with mermaid tho, added 200+ STR on my stats from hones yet the damage is still the same... :/

 

That sucks then, but thanks for the heads up!

 

 

Also, I was thinking of getting the best DPS/DOT summons, may I know which ones to get for my Crec?


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:47 PM

Test servers are down right now, but mscocca and I are almost certain that Illusion will still drop Moonlight DNA. Just saying that we have doubts about the previous claim and it is worth exploring.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 08:05 PM

Oooohhhh, so that means Vador and other hitting summons get damage from both? Like Stainer, etc?

 

Err, I've tried with mermaid tho, added 200+ STR on my stats from hones yet the damage is still the same... :/

 

That sucks then, but thanks for the heads up!

 

 

Also, I was thinking of getting the best DPS/DOT summons, may I know which ones to get for my Crec?

 

Mermaid and Imp where always the best and easiest summons to get for your cres.  I can't remember what else to get, been too long since I looked into it.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:54 AM

Test servers are down right now, but mscocca and I are almost certain that Illusion will still drop Moonlight DNA. Just saying that we have doubts about the previous claim and it is worth exploring.

 

Really the best, Arby! Will try to farm some later and see what I can find. On another note, is it true that Attack Summons (Stainer, Vador, ML, etc.) base their attacks on AP only? Am asking this because my Mermaid and Imp does DOT based on MP (had a misconception of taking both AP and MP into account of the DOT) and maybe Attack Summons only take into consideration STR/AP.

 

 

Mermaid and Imp where always the best and easiest summons to get for your cres.  I can't remember what else to get, been too long since I looked into it.

 

Yep, already have both but am still seeking advice on which other summons to spam.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:51 PM

Uh that'll take some time to run controlled tests if we want actual formulas but I'm not going to have time to go through that. I'll just make a generalizing statement: all pet damage is related to attack and magic, but each has different ratios (probably).


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:58 PM

I know mermaid and imp both do their DOTs through a combination of attack power and magic power because my cres is full STR build and my pet DOTS's are insanely high while having very low magic power.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 01:32 PM

Seeking help in answering some questions regarding summons:

 

1) I am planning on maxing Vador on my Crec but am clueless on where the attack damage of the said summon base it. Is it on my MP or AP?

2) Do all DOT summons (defensive and offensive) base their effects on MP only?

3) Does Illusion of Moonlight drop Moonlight DNA?

 

Hope someone could clarify these inquiries.

 

3.) illusion of Moonlight does drop Moonnlight DNA frag.

 

1 & 2.) All attack and healing pets are based off:

-Rarity Stars

-Level

-Attack Power

-Magic Power

-Weapon Min. & Max

-Weapon Refine bonus


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:41 PM

I know mermaid and imp both do their DOTs through a combination of attack power and magic power because my cres is full STR build and my pet DOTS's are insanely high while having very low magic power.

 

Oohhh, so does that mean that it's more advisable to orient to STR than to INT since hones, STR to INT ratio, is higher?


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:48 PM

Oohhh, so does that mean that it's more advisable to orient to STR than to INT since hones, STR to INT ratio, is higher?

 

Probably more beneficial to go with INT vs STR, I think cres has better dots than melee.  You can go either or, I just go full STR because no one else really does it, lol!


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 03:08 PM

Seeking help in answering some questions regarding summons:

1) I am planning on maxing Vador on my Crec but am clueless on where the attack damage of the said summon base it. Is it on my MP or AP?
2) Do all DOT summons (defensive and offensive) base their effects on MP only?
3) Does Illusion of Moonlight drop Moonlight DNA?

Hope someone could clarify these inquiries.


1: vador atk damage is based on your Atk power + magic power same goes with dot pets and healer pets.

If you want more info about vador, steiner pet which is single target is also same damage with vador even tho steiner pet skill is single target offensive unlike ML and vador which is aoe offensive.

Additionally, researcher and wild rose also single target which is better and cheaper alternative of vador. Lvl 4 wildrose > lvl 3 vador
Only slight difference.

If want aoe cheaper pet get wolf guy which is a 3 star pet
Easier to hunt as well compared to vador

Watch my guide video for hunting it
https://youtu.be/iRWmqskrc_Y

2. Dot pets like I said above is also based on Ap + MP

Additonally, 200 str cant see much difference on dot because we have minimum and maximum output damage ranges so High so it is best to test it on lvl 1 and 1 star pet.
So if you get rsx the minimum and maximum range are drastically long so its hard to know the average.

You can check my video about DoT below
https://youtu.be/ktfQ7NgS2Q8

Additional guide if you want to maximize your pet dot is

Better get int runes, and str hones on gears bec str gives higher value than int on sere gears

3. I believe we can get her dna

I hope this could help you
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