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#1 ChocoNat191

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:42 PM

I'm wondering what's the best set up for DD DA Crit without Drake Card. I can't afford Drake Card, but I can farm Sky Fortress Instance for VM Daggers with "Recovers 1000f damage lost from size penalties" AKA "Drake Effect".

 

If the VM Dagger had only Drake Effect (assuming other enchants are crappy), how should I set up my weapons?

 

Here are the list I have come up with, assuming I already got 193 ASPD without need of Soheon Card and total crit damage mod of +100% or more, so I might not need Auneo Card:-

 

Option 1: +14 VM Dagger [AK] and +14 Valkyrie Knife [4 AK] 

Option 2: +14 FQL [2 AK] and +14 VM Dagger [AK]

Option 3: +14 FQL [2 AK] and +14 Valkyrie Knife [4 AK] (just go without Drake Effect)

 

I'm actually leaning toward Option 1, but since VM Dagger has base wAtk of 100 only, I'm not sure if it's gonna be worthwhile having Drake Effect. Option 2 seems to have more use of Drake Effect but misses 50% Boss Damage Mod though (75% vs 125%).

 

 

 

One more question. If I already got 100% def bypass, is Glorious Gladius still a thing when facing Demi-Human Boss?

 

 

******** Update ********

 

I've tried using link provided by Ashuckel. I'm sharing some results for those who want to know what I found.

 

Attacking Baphomet with Neutral property

 

Option 1: Average right hand damage: 21,245.5

Option 2: Average right hand damage: 19,575.5

Option 3: Average right hand damage: 9,604.5

 

Conclusion: Drake effect is a must lol

 

Disclaimers: You may get different results due to stat and gear differences.


Edited by ChocoNat191, 09 August 2018 - 08:55 PM.

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#2 Ashuckel

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:44 PM

http://calculator.pandanjam.com
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#3 ChocoNat191

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:09 PM

 

Hell yeah, I've been looking for simplified calculator like this rather than putting every equip and every card in place one by one. Thanks so much Ash.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 03:24 AM

glorious is still the BiS on demihuman enemies 


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 01:06 AM

JDR > DD
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 01:21 AM

RTE + VK + 193 aspd > JDR :heh: 


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 01:13 PM

RTE + VK + 193 aspd > JDR :heh:

 

how high the RTE upgrade needs to be to beat JDR?


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:40 PM

http://calculator.pandanjam.com
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:45 PM

thanks ash but meh...calculator is such a headache

 

maybe I just switch to +14 RTE and +14 VK to test against +14 JDR on izlude eggs


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:47 PM

learn how to use and you'll never worry with doubts on setups ever again
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Posted 11 August 2018 - 03:27 PM

RTE + VK + 193 aspd > JDR :heh:

 

I wonder how much of a pain would be to get 193 aspd with RTE. Lol


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:33 PM

Is it even possible to get 193 aspd with RTE without frenzy and without sacrificing too much damage?


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 04:46 PM

Gambler seal gives 4aspd right? That's quite a boost
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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:46 PM

Is it even possible to get 193 aspd with RTE without frenzy and without sacrificing too much damage?

 

yea but you have to be rich on consumables. :heh: 


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:07 PM

yea but you have to be rich on consumables. :heh:

 

:heh:  :heh:


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 12:49 AM

How much is the gap of aspd between dual dagger and one handed sword+dagger?
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 12:51 AM

How much is the gap of aspd between dual dagger and one handed sword+dagger?

 

 it depends on your stacked % aspd 


Edited by BlackMeow, 14 August 2018 - 12:55 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 01:25 AM

Right hand dagger has a -2 aspd penalty, sword has -25

And theres no currently existing sword that beats 2 daggers.

Edited by Ashuckel, 14 August 2018 - 01:26 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 10:14 AM

Right hand dagger has a -2 aspd penalty, sword has -25

And theres no currently existing sword that beats 2 daggers.


Thats too much. I dont think its possible to reach max aspd even with lord knight card
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 02:02 PM

so conclusion is still JDR > DD


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:05 AM

so conclusion is still JDR > DD


That valky kill video was disgusting.
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:46 PM

so conclusion is still JDR > DD

 

Yep. Rich made a vid showing his test results.


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