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#1 XxLokixX

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 03:51 AM

How important is 100% mdef ignore? Would it be worthwhile to get pdm with 126str, 120 int, 90 dex, rest vit/agi? My reason for asking is I have gtb, safety wall and quag for defense. I would like to try celine/mob set valk tkk/crimson. this would keep 100% mdef ignore while having valk/tkk and celine bonus damages. I could then use temporal int with fallen bishop as well. Would this work or would it be better to drop the mdef ignore to get 120 dex for the mob scarf matk and other stats? My main focus is pvm by the way.

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 04:38 AM

see my old post here about mdef for magic caster


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 05:07 AM

You can wear both magician gloves and PDM now, so only 72 STR is needed(60% MDEF bypass from PDM, 50% from Magician Gloves)


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 05:44 AM

or you can wear pair of magician gloves instead, no useless points allocated on str.

 

Single PDM is preferable if you don't wear either la'cryma stick + pororoca combo with maxed out frost nova, survivor rod + shoes combo, or NCT-NP weapon-shield combo cards limited for demon-undead-brute-formless or you dont have vesper carded headgear against boss protocol monsters. That single PDM would open accessory slots for celine brooch+ribbon combo which boost damage on boss protocol monsters.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 07:52 AM

Thank you all for the amazing responses. This is why I come to the pros. I will look for vesper card. Any idea how much those are selling for now? Vesper + 90 str pdm (75+30) seems how I will do it. Also about agi since i am using that much on str. How much agi vs int should I do?
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Posted 08 September 2018 - 02:01 PM

I've seen your P/C thread in marketplace subforums, the price range should be around that.

 

as for agi, it's used by magic caster for boosting your aspd which lessen the skill animation delay on spammable magic.

 

In WL case its specifically used for soul expansion and chain lightning if you can fully get rid of its 3 seconds cast delay (Kiel, HWHB, etc stuff)


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:33 PM

i like to have at least enough agi to reach sleep immunity because sleep is zZz ~


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 09:09 PM

in PvM environment sleep is less likely a threat especially if you're in mobby area where you'll less likely to stay asleep with consecutive hits you receive from incoming mobs.

 

and also please note that status based resistance only applicable if the object that inflicting it are at least not more than 10 levels than your own.

 

Nightmare carded headgear will ensure sleep immunity regardless your status points or your base level if you're going to face mobs that prone to inflict sleep.

 

for PvP & WoE scenario, sleep is more deadly since your opponents can prepare their ultimate attack or ganged up on you while you're fell asleep :heh:

 

oh yeah, another thing to note is there's also separate status effects called deep sleep which unaffected by any of aforementioned means (nightmare card, high agi thing)


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 05:17 AM

i like to have at least enough agi to reach sleep immunity because sleep is zZz ~

 

In this case you have two choices:

 

1. Put a Nightmare Card on your sunglasses so you wont need AGI to guard against sleep.

2. Wear two pairs of Magician Gloves and you get 100% MDEF bypass anyway, so you wont need STR and instead you put the skill points on AGI.

 

Gotta say that the change that magician gloves can be worn on either accessory slot makes a lot of things easier for WL/Sorc nowadays.
 


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:45 PM

I am trying to avoid double magician gloves so I can benefit from celine set in bio5/mvp. For pvp though I will double magician I suppose.
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Posted 30 September 2018 - 06:05 PM

There are four options for this stat build, Str 90 Agi 54 Int 120 Dex 120 Vit 78 Luk 5 all of which will enable 100% mdef pierce:

 

1) Crimson Rock build:

 

+12 Old Magician Hat with ME enchant and Red Lichtern card

Mob Scarf set (any card on glasses, i prefer MP for hidden targets)

 +13 Flattery of Axis with Int6 enchant

+14 Valk Knife with 4 True KK cards

Any shield of your choice, Alice carded shield for mvp/boss protocol targets

+14 Fallen Angel Wings with Nightmare Ancient Mummy card

+7 devil worshiper shoes

Magician Gloves

Perversed Demon Mask

 

2) Water Ball build:

 

+12 Celine Ribbon with Blue Lichtern card

Mob Scarf set (any card on glasses, i prefer MP for hidden targets)

+13 Flattery of Axis with Int6 enchant

+15 La Cryma (card depends on your target)

Any shield of your choice, Alice carded shield for mvp/boss protocol targets

use the same FAW above

+7 Pororoca Shoes

Celine Brooch

Perversed Demon Mask

 

3) Chain Lightning / Earth Strain build:

 

+12 Survival Circlet (Tikbalang for CL, Green Lichtern for ES)

use the same glasses

Survivor Orb

+13 Flattery of Axis with Int6 enchant

+15 Survivor Rod (card depends on your target)

Any shield of your choice, Alice carded shield for mvp/boss protocol targets

+14 Survivor Cloak with Antique Book card or for ES, arc elder card

+7 Survivor Shoes

Temporal Ring with Elvira card (will also be used later below for Soul Expansion build)

Perversed Demon Mask with Elvira card

 

4) Soul Expansion build:

 

(for demi-human):

+12 Old Magician Hat with ME enchant (Yellow Lichtern card)

Mob Scarf set (any card on glasses, i prefer MP for hidden targets)

+13 Flattery of Axis with Int6 enchant

+14 Glorious Destruction Staff

use same faw or if you have funds, make a separate +9FAW SP enchant with Antique Book card

+12 Temporal Boots Intc (RM,SP5)

Temporal Ring with Elvira card

Perversed Demon Mask with Elvira card

 

(for other races):

+12 Old Magician Hat with ME enchant (Yellow Lichtern card)

Mob Scarf set (any card on glasses, i prefer MP for hidden targets)

+13 Flattery of Axis with Int6 enchant

+15 Survivor Rod (card depending on your target)

+14 Survivor Cloak with Antique Book card

+7 Survivor Shoes

Temporal Ring with Elvira card

Perversed Demon Mask with Elvira card


Edited by angelopaol1011, 01 October 2018 - 05:34 PM.

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 05:29 PM

Survivor Shoes only need to be +7 btw.


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Posted 01 October 2018 - 05:34 PM

Survivor Shoes only need to be +7 btw.

 

Ah yeah sorry for that, I edited it to +7 hekhek, just being fond with +9 XD
 


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:11 AM

So as a starting WL, I think it would beneficial to go straight to Survivor set, correct? I got pororocas shoes, and lacryma but my dmg sucks still. Haven’t tested survivor set yet.
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:18 AM

Yeah honestly survivor set should be enough to get you to 175 pretty easily. All you need is earth strain and chain lightning. 


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 08:13 AM

Thank you Bean =)
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