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#1 Paranoian

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 12:31 AM

Hello. I'm currently trying out the Mage class and decided to go the WL route. Currently, I'm at level 121 using a Survivor's Set. However, I am having a hard time leveling. I'm not sure which skills to get first. I can definitely reset if needed. My current job level is 33 and my offensive skills are as follows:

 

FM 2

JF 5

CL 5

CR 5

ES 3

Hell Inferno 3

 

I'm looking for someone to give me advice on how to level my WL (ie where and which skills to use).

 

All help is appreciated. Thanks! :)


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#2 angelopaol1011

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 06:05 PM

Max out earth strain since it will be your ace on NCT leveling when you reach 150.

Use crimson rock at scaraba dungeon good for up to level 130++. Else, go high TI up to 150 choose which element to use base on the monsters there.
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#3 SeiginoYuusha

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:36 PM

crimson rock are more versatile than earth strain, using earth strain need good positioning since it can only travels in cross directions from caster's current position (horizontal and vertical lines, but not diagonal) and prone to fails on map with obstacle objects, meanwhile with crimson rock you just need to pack the mobs and fry them for good.

 

soul drain also proccing with crimson rock, but not on earth strain.


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Posted 23 October 2018 - 04:53 PM

Yeah it depends on his current gears, he mentioned survivor set that is why I suggested to max out earth strain and chain lightning skills. If you want to spend on +10 Valk Knife with True KKs that is not a problem.

 

Btw, positioning the earth strain is not that hard. You will easily get used to it with just a few tries. Cheers!


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 12:33 AM

you don't really need true kk valk knife just for leveling, it's not necessary at all XD. This is how i level my new warlock with survivor set, get crimson rock lv 2 > get read and release lv 1 > rush comet lv 5 > get earth strain lv 5 > get jack frost lv 5

leveling with comet with survivor rod is nice (assuming your rod is +10 or higher) it has wide aoe you won't have problem with aiming. I do agree on survivor set earth strain is stronger than crimson rock but usually with high enough matk even lv 2 crimson is viable for leveling, it's just you don't really stick to one skill. Use earth strain, crimson, comet, even heaven's drive. Comet eats a lot of sp but if you can slip in some crimson and jupitel to soul drain that won't be much of problem.

After you get to that point above you can get whatever you want, be it chain lightning, drain life or maxing crimson rock

 

Also, there's really no reason to not use earth strain just because it's harder to aim compared to crimson rock because if you're using survivor set, sooner or later, want it or not, you'll get used to use it


Edited by mianyaa, 24 October 2018 - 12:58 AM.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 03:27 AM

Yeah it depends on his current gears, he mentioned survivor set that is why I suggested to max out earth strain and chain lightning skills. If you want to spend on +10 Valk Knife with True KKs that is not a problem.

 

Btw, positioning the earth strain is not that hard. You will easily get used to it with just a few tries. Cheers!

 

lol, why be so narrow minded. Crimson rock has been outperforming earthstrain long before tomb of honor existence.

 

I think you started playing warlock just recently, and survivor set is still good to be used on crimson rock.

 

let me show you some screenshots of cr performance on nct later on with survivor set and if you ever need earth magic on survivor set heaven's drive is much better with 360 degrees / 8 directional ground target magic, 210% skill damage modifier boost, 60% earth magic boost with no skill cooldown and low cast delay.

 

you don't really need true kk valk knife just for leveling, it's not necessary at all XD. This is how i level my new warlock with survivor set, get crimson rock lv 2 > get read and release lv 1 > rush comet lv 5 > get earth strain lv 5 > get jack frost lv 5

leveling with comet with survivor rod is nice (assuming your rod is +10 or higher) it has wide aoe you won't have problem with aiming. I do agree on survivor set earth strain is stronger than crimson rock but usually with high enough matk even lv 2 crimson is viable for leveling, it's just you don't really stick to one skill. Use earth strain, crimson, comet, even heaven's drive. Comet eats a lot of sp but if you can slip in some crimson and jupitel to soul drain that won't be much of problem.

After you get to that point above you can get whatever you want, be it chain lightning, drain life or maxing crimson rock

 

Also, there's really no reason to not use earth strain just because it's harder to aim compared to crimson rock because if you're using survivor set, sooner or later, want it or not, you'll get used to use it

 

True, but I just suggest OP that he wont need to spend more skill points on ES since OP got CR maxed already. By using survivor set it doesn't mean you're locked to earth strain, chain lightning, jupitel thunder, heaven's drive, comet or drain life alone just because the equipments are favorable to these magic.


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 03:56 AM

always bring soul linker with you for kaahi - at least until you're leveling at scarabas


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:36 PM

lol, why be so narrow minded. Crimson rock has been outperforming earthstrain long before tomb of honor existence.

 

I think you started playing warlock just recently, and survivor set is still good to be used on crimson rock.

 

let me show you some screenshots of cr performance on nct later on with survivor set and if you ever need earth magic on survivor set heaven's drive is much better with 360 degrees / 8 directional ground target magic, 210% skill damage modifier boost, 60% earth magic boost with no skill cooldown and low cast delay.

 

 

True, but I just suggest OP that he wont need to spend more skill points on ES since OP got CR maxed already. By using survivor set it doesn't mean you're locked to earth strain, chain lightning, jupitel thunder, heaven's drive, comet or drain life alone just because the equipments are favorable to these magic.

 

Yeah I am a newbie Warlock player btw :)
 


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:45 PM

I'd say having JT lv10, SE lv5, DL lv4 and JF lv5 can help you  on leveling from 100-141. I'm using survivor set too


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Posted 24 October 2018 - 04:49 PM

Here w/my 114 WL using SE lv5 and DL lv4. No pots needed. Hope this helps.

 


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Posted 26 October 2018 - 07:52 AM

OMG thank you guys for lots of ideas! I super appreciate it!!! Thank you so much for explaining everything to me! :p_love:


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Posted 27 October 2018 - 12:41 AM

Comet is worth for leveling now

 

with Survivor set  Comet is more powerful than before   ,  can easily hit 100-150k+ dmg  / one shot everything  till going Bio4

 

or can do more than 200k with some specific set up   (I hit 180-230k Comet on NCT  with right gears)

 

 

 

Even it's waste 800 sp per use  I  have some tricks to be effective  

 

You must have   Catherina von Blood  or  +9  Magician Knit hat  to help about   Comet SP consumption   

 

 

 

Catherina von Blood   recover  500 HP  50 SP per monster killed  even killing with magic     

very effective if your rest of gears can do overkill damage on mobs 

 

Example  you encountered   20x mobs  around the screen     you killed them in a single Comet  =   you recover 10k HP  1k SP  instantly 

 

then you can spam more Comets without worry about your SP     

 

 

or even killing with other skills which trigger Soul Drain   such as    killing multiple mobs with Crimson rock  =  default SP from Soul Drain + 500 HP , 50 SP  each mobs killed 

 

you can gain your SP back faster from spamming multiple Comets

 

 

 

other benefit is  you can share it with other class    when you're leveling new characters  or even  you're leveling at place that you can one shot mobs   (Expample :   Rebel in Low TI / Nogg     ,  plan to leveling other class for farming purpose) 

 

 

 

Note :  I use this hat + Survivor set  on Baby WL  because  Baby WL lacks of Soul Drain  also low SP pool compare to  Adult+Trans WL   at least I can gain SP back with this  :<  

 

 

 

 

 

+9 Magician Knit hat is another cheaper choice  but I found that  there's some trick to do and it's work only on magic   

 

Even you unequip this hat     25 SP recover each killed  effect   still working   until you're going to another map or log out    

 

so when you're entered leveling map    equip  Magician Knit hat  then  switch to your main hat

  (Celine Ribbon ,  Survivor Circlet , etc.)    

 

use this benefit to recover SP back when  killing mobs with Comet , Earth Strain , Jack Frost     any skills which not trigger Soul Drain 

 

or even increase Soul Drain effective   

 


Edited by NekoCaptainNoob, 27 October 2018 - 12:48 AM.

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Posted 27 October 2018 - 03:41 AM

ok neko, I want to congratulate you for letting loose the knowledge of beneficiary in game exploit to be fixed by the staff :U

 

its very similar to how keraunos exploit back then, that retain power absorb cooldown reductions even when its unequipped.

 

 


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Posted 29 October 2018 - 06:01 PM

I never used hell inferno,comet & vortex in PVM .

 

much better of your job level is a around 40. (i know Trick to increase job level just PM if your interested) 

 

Job 40:

 

max: 

Freeze & reading: spam 3 crimson rock (using book)

Crimson rock

Jack frost

Life drain

Earth strain(not on priority list,in low level...but you need this soon)

 

lv1.  recognize spell

 

Don't waste your stat on soul expansion (because elemental attack can kill ghost anyway.. ex. spamming crimson rock using book spell).

 

max: 

safety wall (followed by ice wall to build a cocoon or bunker)

ice wall (cocoon or bunker while spamming crimson rock & trapping)

 

 

 

EDIT: 

 

WL is not all about power its about ingenuity(perception,creativity,originality & being clever)

Dont forget to use Rodex as your consumable items storage. 


Edited by Name85738, 29 October 2018 - 06:16 PM.

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