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[Scuba]

Yeah the sacrifices you make to get 120 int 120 dex for seraphim over imperial seems a little meh to me.

 

I totally thought imperial was listed in the guide. 120 agi best build O_O

[Nirvanna21]

Without MOT, the ideal solution to bypass is a PDM, it's just too good, in fact it can be better in some scenarios over an MOT depending on your target.

 

Problem is, 126 Luk eats up a lot of points. You can sacrifice stuff to get that 120 AGI, however I think not having natural stun immunity is such a bad idea. If you -_- up with killing, you are dead.

[Scuba]

What stuns? Just spot checking a few MvPs that might be a credible threat to kill during a stun duration and didnt see much. Maybe I missed it. In any case a brisket does the trick.

 

Hmm maybe bio5? Havent checked those skill lists yet. But maybe gamblers is still better for damage. Just thought the 180 atk would multiply better against the 120+ Crit % you'd already have. Plus it would be hands down better for AS which would be the context of this thread I think. Mob / Imp / gambler all seem like super close substitutes.

Edited by Scuba, 08 April 2019 - 04:23 PM.

[andxres]

Without MOT, the ideal solution to bypass is a PDM, it's just too good, in fact it can be better in some scenarios over an MOT depending on your target.

Problem is, 126 Luk eats up a lot of points. You can sacrifice stuff to get that 120 AGI, however I think not having natural stun immunity is such a bad idea. If you up with killing, you are dead.

MBTA is good solution for who doesn't want to spent on LUK.

[Ashuckel]

no

[Nirvanna21]

MBTA is good solution for who doesn't want to spent on LUK.

 

30% is a big loss, and would still require some bypass in an accessory.

[junioran]

It's a good option for DS spam, since it allows the use of 2x emeralds without going 0% def bypass.

[Bohem]

wait, so get 126 luk ?? that's a lot of luck.. is that for PDM?

[junioran]

PDM and Jupiter Ring

[Bohem]

ATK bonus from seraphim is too good to miss?

 

so LUK +126 / INT+ 120 and rest DEX? 

[Bohem]

ATK bonus from seraphim is too good to miss?

 

so LUK +126 / INT+ 120 and rest DEX? 

[Nirvanna21]

Either go 126/PDM or take the small loss of 10% by going 108 luk. Don't go seraphim unless you own an MOT. It really isn't worth it.

[Bohem]

wot's MO"T ? lol 

 

 

stupid question that was 

Edited by Bohem, 08 April 2019 - 07:07 PM.

[junioran]

120 int for sera and 126 luk for pdm + jupiter seems pretty good. Then 108 dex and rest in agi/vit/str.

[junioran]

Is probably the best damage per AS you can get without mvps

[Scuba]

wot's MO"T ? lol

[Bohem]

Is probably the best damage per AS you can get without mvps

 

 

thanks ! i appreciate it !

[Nirvanna21]

At the cost of having no stun immunity, and you don't always 1 shot everything. I think going pure damage in this case without HP/Stun Immunity is a big ask. You could throw an Orc Hero in your AHB, but that IS an MVP Card.

[Scuba]

And where would I put my dual pharaohs

[junioran]

It's a fair point, getting stunned on a ranger WILL get you killed instantly, but with 70~80 total vit (which that build can achieved without relying on foods) and lvl 175 that will be a very rare occurrence, specially considering the nature of AS ranger playstyle. If there's an encounter in which you are particularly worried about it happening there's always the possibility of popping a brisket.

Edit: and/or a HP large.

Edited by junioran, 09 April 2019 - 01:48 AM.

[Nirvanna21]

That does rely on VIP buffs in addition to the +20 food for that 101 vit pool, assuming you dump all remaining points for base 50 int. Feels like a bit much for what is a minimal DPS boost.

[JuliusChaesar]

depend on ur gear too

my ranger with 89 vit still can get 100vit without food buff.

80 vit is good enough if u can reach total vit 100 with gear bonus(maybe vip buff bonus too)

vit+7 from job bonus stats if ur job level is 57

 

@kaynzz for low budget set less than 350m...

white wing set(free from npc), elven bow(5-10m) with elven arrow(buy from mora npc), +9autumn headband(300~400m),just use random gear for left accesory, or u can use double white wing brooch for bonus range+3%.

 

when u have some money, try get perserve demon mask and overupgrade big crossbow(at least +12)

Edited by JuliusChaesar, 12 April 2019 - 02:34 AM.