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#1 bearl

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:43 PM

You should be able to level at ease without having to look for parties anymore.



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*Mob Scarf & Icefall Dress is essential for this to work
*Recommend stats at 150 -> 120Int 120Dex 70Vit 25Str

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Buffs that i used:
Donut & Oda
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Assumptio
Cantocandidus
Clementia
Suffragium
Impositio Manus
Odin's Power
Sacrament
Praefatio
Basilica * Very important! your damage will suddenly drop when it expires.
there isnt any icon, take notice of ur damage if it drops activate the buff again



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 01:03 AM

Have you tried with holy stick and shoes of punishment?
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Posted 03 May 2020 - 01:54 AM

im level 129 doing juperos BB my damage is around 75k-70k , i used those buffs except the suffra dont have enough skills points in 2nd job , my gears are +9shrine maiden hat , jin marinn balloon , +5 o.gown of axis , +9tosd (int 4t & spell lv2 enchant) , +7 anti medium o.server, +9 immune hbp , +9 sup. e.variant , and 2 pcs valk drop... i hope i do good at NCT once i hit 150, i dont have enough budget to buy further its getting expensive...


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 02:54 AM

I play at Scarab lvl 151 here great area for weapon drops for Energy fragments and Doram drop sets. With the Bounty boards it can be fast for badges.
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Posted 03 May 2020 - 03:13 AM

no. holy stick+punishment is only good when demon/shadow & undead.
it wouldnt be enough for you to take down big bell like this.
 

im level 129 doing juperos BB my damage is around 75k-70k , i used those buffs except the suffra dont have enough skills points in 2nd job , my gears are +9shrine maiden hat , jin marinn balloon , +5 o.gown of axis , +9tosd (int 4t & spell lv2 enchant) , +7 anti medium o.server, +9 immune hbp , +9 sup. e.variant , and 2 pcs valk drop... i hope i do good at NCT once i hit 150, i dont have enough budget to buy further its getting expensive...

likely. 2 wave of ME to kill.
that's problematic , since youre likely to get mobbed and die when you're greedy.
 

prilgrim shoe is a good choice here.
i would have wore prilgirm if i had access to neopunk


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 03:26 AM

Since zenny might be a problem. Get a judgement mace 2 slots or one, a Valk shield and something without the negative effects of the orleans gown for the future. White thread armor might be a great goal for the future.
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Posted 03 May 2020 - 03:32 AM

im not doing luring so much big bell i just hit and run and cast kyrie (fast casting thats why) but i go for alpha's leveling i stay at scaraba until i hit level 161 since i can 1 hit them...


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 03:53 AM

ME has 5 waves of damage

you don't need to 1shot on the first one :) (specially with the skill now having a 6s cooldown)


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 03:55 AM

Can anyone try without the icefall dress? Judgement mace w/ bigben combo & cobalt mineral.Mob scarf to really boost matk , white threaded armor, 2 Valk drops and a Shrine maiden.Other equips just add them.

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 09:19 PM

can you still 1-wave big bells with that set-up if you don't use oda and donut?


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Posted 03 May 2020 - 10:38 PM

at 150 no.

as you level, you can skip oda


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 04:47 AM

Thing is NCT might get too crowded with the new skill update and the 1 shot with the 1st ME wave might be a must though less getting KS by other class players.
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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:37 AM

the whole idea of going 1wave ME kill is so that you stay alive.
i died a couple of time cause i ran out of Basilica

*at level 158 you can skip on oda
*at level 164 you can skip on donut


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 11:42 AM

Thing is NCT might get too crowded with the new skill update and the 1 shot with the 1st ME wave might be a must though less getting KS by other class players.

 

You can pneuma in the ME to avoid getting KS'd by ranged characters, which is what most of the KSing is done by. 


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 05:21 PM

I was able to almost achieve ME 1 wave kill not using icefall by swapping out shrine maiden with happy flappy.

Somehow Happy Flapping Angel Wings was giving me more ME damage than shrine maiden...

I don't have Neo Punk card or white threaded armor on hand, so the only mdef bypass I had was the survivor shoe+wand combo. So if i had the card or replace armor with white threaded, OHKO should be achievable.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 06:10 PM

 i used those buffs except the suffra dont have enough skills points

i'm not sure what suffragium does here since ME is already instacast with shrine maiden hat.


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Posted 04 May 2020 - 09:17 PM

youre right suffragium isnt necessary here.

as ash pointed out before. it makes very little difference even if youre using happy flapping

 


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 03:19 AM

testing with ME on NCT @ 150/50. finally found the cheapest option i can afford.

 

stats: 70 vit, 120 int/dex

 

gears: +9happy flapping angel wings, mob scarf set, +9white armor (entweihen), +12 crimson rod (big ben, cobalt mineral), +4 VS (neo punk), +7 pilgrim shoes, +9 faw max spell (antique book), 2pcs valk drop (scaraba)

 

shadow: +7 magical set (missing refines), matk+1% (upper/mid)

 

buffs: agi, bless, sacra, KE, power of odin 2

 

this setup gives me consistent dmg of around 180k on big bells, one-shotting them without much buffs/consumables.


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 03:56 AM

^ nice
what about Basilica? excluded?

entwei is cheap in thor, but it's luxuary in chaos.
anyone there that has entwei shouldnt have any problem having icefall


if i had 
 +12 crimson rod (big ben, cobalt mineral), +4 VS (neo punk),
i would have enjoyed the benefit of prilgrim shoes


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Posted 13 May 2020 - 05:06 AM

^ nice
what about Basilica? excluded?

entwei is cheap in thor, but it's luxuary in chaos.
anyone there that has entwei shouldnt have any problem having icefall


if i had 
 +12 crimson rod (big ben, cobalt mineral), +4 VS (neo punk),
i would have enjoyed the benefit of prilgrim shoes

 

yeah, basilica was replaced by cobalt mineral card and shadow gears pretty much. you dont need it with my setup. if you are lacking matk%, try adding am mut pet or leaf lunatic. i dont have a pet when testing.

 

without the cobalt mineral card, i had to replace pilgrim with a +4 temporal int spell to one-shot without basilica.

 

i tried basilica and the lack of timer/indicator is annoying, so i tried to find a way to remove it. i might even reset skills again to remove basilica.

 

aha, icefall is just too expensive right now. i can't even afford abyss which i need, so icefall is just for luxury now. i think in thor pricing, my whole setup is cheaper than a single icefall dress of 3 or 4b.
 


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Posted 10 June 2020 - 11:52 PM

Hello Guys,

 

   Could you please share your skill tree since 1st class to 3rd class ? I am still building my ME/AD AB. I can't post image that I tried to build on this thread. Very appreciated ! 


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Posted 11 June 2020 - 02:02 PM

Hello Guys,

 

   Could you please share your skill tree since 1st class to 3rd class ? I am still building my ME/AD AB. I can't post image that I tried to build on this thread. Very appreciated ! 

 

Hello,

 

As I don't normally play an AB as a damaging class if at all (or even know how to build damaging classes well, gearwise and skillwise i could never do as well as any other player), but the skill build in this link is usually the most accepted way you would spread your skills when building an ME AB at least (plenty of skill points left in 3rd and 2nd and even 1st so its usually a go as you want to buffet at that point).

 

http://irowiki.org/~...BabkbdsrEnS1In1


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Posted 11 June 2020 - 08:59 PM

Hello,

 

As I don't normally play an AB as a damaging class if at all (or even know how to build damaging classes well, gearwise and skillwise i could never do as well as any other player), but the skill build in this link is usually the most accepted way you would spread your skills when building an ME AB at least (plenty of skill points left in 3rd and 2nd and even 1st so its usually a go as you want to buffet at that point).

 

http://irowiki.org/~...BabkbdsrEnS1In1

 

Thank you : ) 

 

I got like links below. Mainly ME / Sometimes AD

 

Op1 http://irowiki.org/~...BsOkfdsrChf1In1

 

Op2 http://irowiki.org/~...BsOkfdsrChf1In1

 

KE 10 or only 4 that makes me crazy ! 

 

Thanks


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Posted 11 June 2020 - 09:05 PM

good guide! 


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 06:43 PM

Thank you : ) 

 

I got like links below. Mainly ME / Sometimes AD

 

Op1 http://irowiki.org/~...BsOkfdsrChf1In1

 

Op2 http://irowiki.org/~...BsOkfdsrChf1In1

 

KE 10 or only 4 that makes me crazy ! 

 

Thanks

 

Well this is a choice, its basically saying do you want to kite effectively during ME when you are by yourself  or are you a servicable AB for MvP'ing and general partying with other players with a wide plethora of skills to use with less rebuff timers.


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