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#1 stormchell

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 05:53 PM

Hi folks, so  recently respec'd my RK to become a DB build.

He's now lv 153 and I'm having trouble leveling in NCT. ATM I can 2-shot big bells at around 110k dmg each, but I have to keep my HP up otherwise the damage drops.

I'm wondering if anyone can give advice in terms of equipment?

 

At the moment I have:

 

+10 Red Baby Dragon with Bungingis card

New Wave Sunglasses

Tengu Scroll

+9 Fafnir Scale

+10 TGL EA4 double Kingbird

+9 FAW shooter EA 4/2/3

+9 Temporal Dex (Firelock) EA 2 - super budget

Jupiter Ring

Fairy Leaf Powder

 

No shadow gears.

 

Stats are 120 DEX, 110 VIT, 105 INT for the time being, haven't increased any more stats.

 

I tried using flapping wings, but the damage output is way worse than using Red Baby Dragon.

Is there any other way to maximize my damage output so I can 1 shot big bells? I heard excelion shield is a possibility?

I don't care too much about cast delay reduction at this stage, so what can I swap the new wave/tengu scroll with for maximum damage?

 

Any input appreciated and thanks!


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#2 mikkotinamide

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 06:08 PM

DB is highly level dependent it's almost impossible to one-shot them at that level. Just kite them. 2 shots is good enough. don't tank them like a melee class. 

I can one shot with my RKs at around 160. Get solar sword for switching when hp is low but I find +4 mali set and a tengu scroll to be sufficient. 


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Posted 28 June 2020 - 06:35 PM

DB is highly level dependent it's almost impossible to one-shot them at that level. Just kite them. 2 shots is good enough. don't tank them like a melee class. 

I can one shot with my RKs at around 160. Get solar sword for switching when hp is low but I find +4 mali set and a tengu scroll to be sufficient. 

 

Any suggestions for SP sustain at all? And will I lose damage for switching sword, or is the damage based more on max HP/SP instead of ATK?


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Posted 28 June 2020 - 06:38 PM

+9Mysterius Muffler (meantblat), fast Run, HP & SP +20%>>Damage

PDM, for more stat vit>>> Every 18 VIt get 3 Dex and reduce cast Time, Every 18 Dex get 3 Vit and More HP

Temporal Dex/EA/RM + Temporal Ring>>  HP+SP>> Damage

+10 Scutum + 4xAS dagger>>More HP & SP +10%>>Damage

SLot MidHeadgear with Incubus Card>> 150 SP

Incubus Pet >> optional

 

Jupiter Ring < Preserve Demon Mask (PVM/MVP)

Dont Use Happy Flapping Angel Wings, damage race modifier doesnt give effect to Dragon Breath damage

if u can get PDM, i suggest build stat like this:

 

Str 54 >> +9 Int

Agi 54 ~ 72 >> +9~12 Luk, for animation Delay

Vit 108 >> + 18 Dex, -6% cast Reduction

Int 90 >> + 15 Str, +5% After Cast Delay

Dex 120 >> -0,5 FCT with Temp Dex Boots, +18Vit, +6% HP

Luk 1


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#5 mikkotinamide

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Posted 28 June 2020 - 08:08 PM

Any suggestions for SP sustain at all? And will I lose damage for switching sword, or is the damage based more on max HP/SP instead of ATK?

 

incubus + mysterious muffler should be enough.

You just switch to solar sword when you need hp. Find an afk leveler, kill the mobs they gather and get HP. I really don't use RBDH until around mid-160 where i can one shot them. 


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Posted 28 June 2020 - 08:22 PM

most of my db rks were levelled before there was even fafnir or baby dragon hat. Damage is not the biggest deal when you can spam fast. I used to 4-5 shot NCT without those items and still have like 6-7 turn ins per BMX.

 

It means, you do not need to chase any sort of damage as long as you have enough delay reduc. Use tengu scroll, malicious TGL and whatever HP leech you want and you almost always have HP full. SP just use incubus pet.


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Posted 28 June 2020 - 10:48 PM

most of my db rks were levelled before there was even fafnir or baby dragon hat. Damage is not the biggest deal when you can spam fast. I used to 4-5 shot NCT without those items and still have like 6-7 turn ins per BMX.

It means, you do not need to chase any sort of damage as long as you have enough delay reduc. Use tengu scroll, malicious TGL and whatever HP leech you want and you almost always have HP full. SP just use incubus pet.

I use the Mysterious Muffler and Incubus Pet, and two DB killing NCT, I found that I still will lack of Sp quite often, I DB even only one mob, should I adjust my action or any way to solve the so problem?

Also, do you think leveling in Dragon Nest is better than NCT?
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Posted 28 June 2020 - 11:02 PM

bring some strawberries or use urj rune. The problem solves itself as you get higher levels. RK’s biggest change in SP value comes from lvl150-175 afterall, so while lvlling in the 150s just suck it up and eat the damn sp consumables if you don get lucky procs. You’ll notice you stop needing sp consumables in the 160s.

Also, dragon nest is really for 140-150, unless your goal is to make some quick and easy zeny at the same time (yggs, bradium, OPB, even the cards still got some value). The monster density is far too low compared to NCT. You’ll get 2x as much turn ins per BMX from BCT than dragon nest.

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Posted 29 June 2020 - 08:52 PM

Thank you all for your help!

Just a question - I do have a solar sword. If I use it, will my damage decrease by a lot (since I'll lose the 20% from AS and the EA4), or it will still be roughly the same due to the HP leech?

 


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Posted 29 June 2020 - 08:58 PM

I use the Mysterious Muffler and Incubus Pet, and two DB killing NCT, I found that I still will lack of Sp quite often, I DB even only one mob, should I adjust my action or any way to solve the so problem?

Also, do you think leveling in Dragon Nest is better than NCT?

 

Never had any problems with sp with myst muffler + incubus as my only source of sp. I never had to use sp pots. If you think RNGs messing up your sp, try avoiding killing just one mob.


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Posted 30 June 2020 - 12:03 PM

Anyone tried a nightmare ancient mummy card for DB? 


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Posted 02 July 2020 - 05:59 AM

catherina von blood + succubus pet is usually enough for sp and hp leech.

 

add in malicious shadow and tengu scroll and you are usually set.

 

its what i use now for regular mobs.


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Posted 02 July 2020 - 05:23 PM

+9Mysterius Muffler (meantblat), fast Run, HP & SP +20%>>Damage

PDM, for more stat vit>>> Every 18 VIt get 3 Dex and reduce cast Time, Every 18 Dex get 3 Vit and More HP

Temporal Dex/EA/RM + Temporal Ring>>  HP+SP>> Damage

+10 Scutum + 4xAS dagger>>More HP & SP +10%>>Damage

SLot MidHeadgear with Incubus Card>> 150 SP

Incubus Pet >> optional

 

Jupiter Ring < Preserve Demon Mask (PVM/MVP)

Dont Use Happy Flapping Angel Wings, damage race modifier doesnt give effect to Dragon Breath damage

if u can get PDM, i suggest build stat like this:

 

Str 54 >> +9 Int

Agi 54 ~ 72 >> +9~12 Luk, for animation Delay

Vit 108 >> + 18 Dex, -6% cast Reduction

Int 90 >> + 15 Str, +5% After Cast Delay

Dex 120 >> -0,5 FCT with Temp Dex Boots, +18Vit, +6% HP

Luk 1

 

 

I tried using PDM and my damage output is much lower than jupiter ring..

 

PDM damage output is around 180k on fire eggs with water breath, with jup ring is around 200k (this is with spear dynamo, aura blade etc)

Damage using mysterious muff is also lower than the FAW EA 4/2/3 menblatt, 185k instead of 200k

I tried using excelion shield + triple kingbird RTE, and the damage is much worse even though my HP is higher. Barely made 150k per hit.

 

Using PDM, excelion shield, triple kingbird RTE, and muffler, the damage is at its lowest - around 120-130k

 

So I'm even more confused now D:

My ATK and range damage modifier is a lot lower without the FAW and TGL, and my damage too. So DB is obviously influenced by that.

So stacking max HP may not be the best solution after all?


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 05:00 AM

ATK modifier not for DB

wwhat u need just EA, Max SP and Bulk HP

u can use temporal RIng + Temp Bost EA4/RM for +40Int Bonus

 

i dont say PDM have better damage than J.Ring, i just say better for PVM, cause have ACD and bonus stat

DB have Level Damage Modifier, and Max Sp and HP for ur level seems low, when u get 160+ ur SP and HP get better

 

sorry i have bad english sir...

or u can watch Video on youtube

https://www.youtube....eW31YW2U&t=125s

jupiter RIng make my cast long than use PDM

 


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 05:55 AM

costume garment with sp absorption can help on sp too.

try to keep parry and spear dynamo skill up all the time, might help parry the incoming damage and stay out of hitlock when get mobbed


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Posted 04 July 2020 - 03:41 AM

ATK modifier not for DB

wwhat u need just EA, Max SP and Bulk HP

u can use temporal RIng + Temp Bost EA4/RM for +40Int Bonus

 

i dont say PDM have better damage than J.Ring, i just say better for PVM, cause have ACD and bonus stat

DB have Level Damage Modifier, and Max Sp and HP for ur level seems low, when u get 160+ ur SP and HP get better

 

sorry i have bad english sir...

or u can watch Video on youtube

https://www.youtube....eW31YW2U&t=125s

jupiter RIng make my cast long than use PDM

 

Ohh I see what you mean. Thanks for the clarification! I'll give it a shot next time


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 08:43 AM

Hi folks, so  recently respec'd my RK to become a DB build.

He's now lv 153 and I'm having trouble leveling in NCT. ATM I can 2-shot big bells at around 110k dmg each, but I have to keep my HP up otherwise the damage drops.

I'm wondering if anyone can give advice in terms of equipment?

 

At the moment I have:

 

+10 Red Baby Dragon with Bungingis card

New Wave Sunglasses

Tengu Scroll

+9 Fafnir Scale

+10 TGL EA4 double Kingbird

+9 FAW shooter EA 4/2/3

+9 Temporal Dex (Firelock) EA 2 - super budget

Jupiter Ring

Fairy Leaf Powder

 

No shadow gears.

 

Stats are 120 DEX, 110 VIT, 105 INT for the time being, haven't increased any more stats.

 

I tried using flapping wings, but the damage output is way worse than using Red Baby Dragon.

Is there any other way to maximize my damage output so I can 1 shot big bells? I heard excelion shield is a possibility?

I don't care too much about cast delay reduction at this stage, so what can I swap the new wave/tengu scroll with for maximum damage?

 

Any input appreciated and thanks!

 

Use Water DB if you are fighting in there for the freezing chances so that you get hit less = making kiting them much easier = keeping your HP
 


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