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[ElenaGilbert]

This is not ZERO lmao why dont you go to Zero if you think they should be the same?

 

Go read the opening statements of this server. Is this going to be ZERO????

 

You make me laugh.

 

 

exactly my point. kRO proved that these gear are balanced if its added on mvps. your arguments are that it will cause balanced issues. of course since it is not 1on1 copy on kRO zero, they can look at a certain equipment and think twice which enchant is should come with. you make me laugh thinking that these items are gonna break the game, when it is proven/ already done in other servers that its not

[1299150619045824270]

exactly my point. kRO proved that these gear are balanced if its added on mvps. your arguments are that it will cause balanced issues. of course since it is not 1on1 copy on kRO zero, they can look at a certain equipment and think twice which enchant is should come with. you make me laugh thinking that these items are gonna break the game, when it is proven/ already done in other servers that its not

LOoooL!!! You think kRO is balanced!?!? Hahahaha

[1299150619045824270]

Because 99% of players cannot afford the valk armor with good enchants (including myself) and it's better to use a coat with top tier enchants than to use a valk armor with bad enchants.

EXACTLY to your ADVANTAGE again!!!! Hahaha you just admitted what I was trying to point out!!! Your GREED!!!

And you think this is good for community??? Hahahahahaha

Including your self??? When your guild hunts 24/7 MVPs.

I’m not saying its a bad thing that your guild do that, but to ask to enchant these armors so that you could benefit MORE and screw everyone else is selfish and just pure greed!

Edited by 1299150619045824270, 27 August 2020 - 06:41 AM.

[YuyaFungami]

 Reading this logic. New gear to strive for = bad.

 

Next FF that comes out with new armors is now canceled as it will devalue OD coat/chain mails.

[ElenaGilbert]

LOoooL!!! You think kRO is balanced!?!? Hahahaha

 

yes

[wwwd]

options on mvp armor is never intended, whoever suggested that just wanted to mess the server up. GM knows better i hope.

[1299150619045824270]

yes

And you hope people should believe you lol. Why don’t you play there then?

[Crimiss]

1) Lul ever heard pf Meteor Storm???

 

2) You just proved my point, I dont need to do all this (dual client, fcp, etc) with valk armor coz its good!!!!

 

1) Meteor Storm has 7 seconds cooldown, and a 1.5 fix + 6.3 variable cast time. It's not a good answer.

 

2) I didn't. You may dual clienting and waiting for FCP with valk. Won't avoid the STR weight limit drop, nor the fact that you will wait for your guild to fcp up regardless.

 

Guilds will always FCP and Buff. It prevents both divest and other gear-breaks from happening.

 

No point in being faster than your entire guild if you play alone.

 

 

 

This discussion is quite simple, actually:

 

 

People can't both argue that p2w is breaking the server and that everyone avoids p2w in WoE in order to justify not implementing options, because the latter is already a solution to the first.

 

To the first point, even if p2w didn't exist, it wouldn't matter. The ability to control MvP drops and therefore funneling game resources into a guild happens since I can remember. The difference is that FF is able to mitigate that difference, and even reverse it in some scenarios: Valk, to me, is a reversing one; I wouldn't use this crappy armor. Diabolus Robe, the other example, is one of mitigation. Coats giving lots of SP will become a viable alternative, and most of other bonuses are irrelevant here and there (cast delay is not very useful for a WoE Champion, more SP is not very useful to a WoE High Priest)

 

You can reduce the argument to individualistic vision (p2w wants because they already win, other guilds don't want it because they already lose), but it is futile: It is a MMORPG, the ball is already rolling, and it already dealt with balance significantly better through Options.

 

What really doesn't work in context is saying to an aspiring player that sitting on Lady Orc is ALWAYS better than grouping up and facing a Randgris.

 

To the second point, nothing to do about it. p2w can nerf themselves, other guilds can strengthen themselves / ally / keep ignoring p2w. Just don't come to Forums complain about Valk Armor locked at 1b each just because your top3 guild really wanted to........... use that valk to beat the top4.

Edited by Crimiss, 27 August 2020 - 07:19 AM.

[1299150619045824270]

 

 

To the first point, even if p2w didn't exist, it wouldn't matter. The ability to control MvP drops and therefore funneling game resources into a guild happens since I can remember. The difference is that FF is able to mitigate that difference, and even reverse it in some scenarios: Valk, to me, is a reversing one; I wouldn't use this crappy armor. Diabolus Robe, the other example, is one of mitigation. Coats giving lots of SP will become a viable alternative, and most of other bonuses are irrelevant here and there (cast delay is not very useful for a WoE Champion, more SP is not very useful to a WoE High Priest)

 

 

What really doesn't work in context is saying to an aspiring player that sitting on Lady Orc is ALWAYS better than grouping up and facing a Randgris.

 

 

 

Cast Delay not useful??? LMAO wait till we got kiel cards and slotted mid gears.

 

Be better in sitting with Lady Orc? No I dont think so, its not better, it has its own use/application just like Valk armor and Diabolus robe.

 

All these armors will have their own specific use and thats why it is good as is.