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#1 DarkDan

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 09:10 AM

I am about to attempt to level my Sura from 175/55 to 185/65 in Nogg3. I tried Lion's Howl with no success. Only video I am seeing on youtube is this but he doesn't post stats or equips. He can no combo one hit Nogg3 with Tiger Cannon. What is he using to achieve this if zeny isn't a issue? What stats is using? It would be nice to copy the build or try to lol. It looks like he is using Tao Gunka armor. 

 

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I used Santa to reset my Sura for free. I've been watching Youtube vids for Tiger Cannon. I have a lot of gear options. I have two rings of jupiter but those require a lot of luck. Ive seen vids with Sura's using Rings of Jupiter. I have one Devil Ring. Any advice. Just trying to save myself the cost of resetting if I go with the wrong setup. 

 

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 09:29 AM

Me and some friends leveled with TC, not sure how well Lion Howl will be there, but Rampage blast should be good if you gear up right with true chen cards and a good bit of range+atk gear. Should be capable of earth shaker + rampage blast to effectively "1 shot" or so


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 09:48 AM

Me and some friends leveled with TC, not sure how well Lion Howl will be there, but Rampage blast should be good if you gear up right with true chen cards and a good bit of range+atk gear. Should be capable of earth shaker + rampage blast to effectively "1 shot" or so

 

If TC or Rampage Blast are best then I guess I can switch it up for those builds. I have Lions Howl gear. Just wanted to know what is best really? There really isn't a lot of stuff on the forums about Lions Howl that I can find. 


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 09:59 AM

TC can be kinda annoying to use cause it's target range is like 1 single cell. Not sure if that's what it's supposed to be atm cause it used to be a little bit more. Rampage might be what you want, the reflect in nogg would only happen from the earth shaker and not the rampage blast so you won't end up killing yourself from it.

Lion howl would proc the reflect too, and idk what it's damage would be like there really.


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 10:41 AM

Ok give me your TC setup please? Gear and stats? If you have a Rampage setup i'll try it if you think its better. 


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Posted 30 December 2021 - 02:02 PM

Are you doing the dragon combo into TC? its not as spam worthy but 3 button clicks aren't that much slower and at least does guarantee a "1-Hit" per say. 


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Posted 30 December 2021 - 02:24 PM

Are you doing the dragon combo into TC? its not as spam worthy but 3 button clicks aren't that much slower and at least does guarantee a "1-Hit" per say. 

You have a TC Sura? I am not so concerned with 1 shotting everything. As long as I can level in there without taking a year lol. 2 or 3 shotting wouldn't be bad I guess. I really just need proper gear and stats so I can start leveling. Do you know what the optimal gear other than Tao Gunka? I almost have enough stuff and zeny to maybe buy a Tao.  What stats? Im assuming 120 vit. The other stats really depend on gear. If im going to use Seraph i need 120 int right? Jupiter rings have nice bonuses with 125 luk. I can get another Devil Ring if needed. Not sure how Devil Ring actually helps TC? 


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Posted 30 December 2021 - 02:28 PM

There's various TC setups depending on availability of gears/etc. Main stuff would be diab wing+ boots/tao/illusion combo battle glove + illusion muffler/excellion shield. Then you want more hp/atk stuff of course. Bio 5 hat with hp enchant is nice. And then vit of course for hp and int/dex/str for cast time/sp/hit/atk.

Or if you wanted to do rampage Rave seems to have his gear listed in the 1st comment of this video- https://www.youtube....h?v=VKpjYfAsOc4


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Posted 30 December 2021 - 03:04 PM

There's various TC setups depending on availability of gears/etc. Main stuff would be diab wing+ boots/tao/illusion combo battle glove + illusion muffler/excellion shield. Then you want more hp/atk stuff of course. Bio 5 hat with hp enchant is nice. And then vit of course for hp and int/dex/str for cast time/sp/hit/atk.

Or if you wanted to do rampage Rave seems to have his gear listed in the 1st comment of this video- https://www.youtube....ch?v=VKpjYfAsOc

Thanks. I got the gear from the youtube vid:

 

+14 Old Blazing Soul with Mettle 3 Seraphine Coronet +9 Abyss Dress +12 OS Knuckle [x2 True Chen & 15% Ranged Dmg] +12 Excelion Shield with Hodremlin +7 Tengu Shoes +12 Etran Shirt with Deviling / +9 FAW EA10 with Menblatt (but in the vid i went with etran for more survivability) Ring of Jupiter / PDM +10 Sura Shadow Weapon & rest of set

 

I have most of that stuff. My Sura Shadow Weapon is not +10. I don't have a +14 Old Blazing Soul. Would you know his stat points by chance?


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Posted 30 December 2021 - 03:28 PM

Thanks. I got the gear from the youtube vid:

 

+14 Old Blazing Soul with Mettle 3 Seraphine Coronet +9 Abyss Dress +12 OS Knuckle [x2 True Chen & 15% Ranged Dmg] +12 Excelion Shield with Hodremlin +7 Tengu Shoes +12 Etran Shirt with Deviling / +9 FAW EA10 with Menblatt (but in the vid i went with etran for more survivability) Ring of Jupiter / PDM +10 Sura Shadow Weapon & rest of set

 

I have most of that stuff. My Sura Shadow Weapon is not +10. I don't have a +14 Old Blazing Soul. Would you know his stat points by chance?

Not sure, i'd assume 120 int for seraphim, then probably some multiple on luk for either pdm or jupiter ring. Probably has a multiple of 10 dex for menblatt. Then probably has some between str and vit as well.


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Posted 01 January 2022 - 08:45 PM

Works ok in OGH. Have to learn how to use the setup better. Cast is a little too slow in Nogg3. If I could one shot in Nogg3 i would be ok. Mobs a little to big to tank. 


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Posted 19 February 2022 - 03:32 AM

May I ask when you tried lions howl did you have devils hand headgear? Is there an objectively best build for endgame assuming optimal gear be it tc, rampage, lions howl?
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Posted 19 February 2022 - 09:24 AM

May I ask when you tried lions howl did you have devils hand headgear? Is there an objectively best build for endgame assuming optimal gear be it tc, rampage, lions howl?

Lions Howl just doesn't do enough damage even with the devils hand headgear. I actually at the time had one Devil Ring also and that didn't help. Rampage Blaster does good damage but its very gear intensive. You have to get the correct gear with shadow enchants(+10 Sura Shadow Weapon) to reduce rampage blast cool down. With my setup I could use the ramage blaster setup in OGH because less mobs there. I never tried TC. 

 

I ended up just leeching my Sura with max Warlock. My Sura is 184/65. I just use regen potions on my Sura and auto follow my Warlock in Nogg 3. Its way faster that way. Just have to get one more level and i'll be done. Probably going to use my Warlock to leech all my character from 175/60 to 185/65. I don't think there is a faster way to do it. Warlock is the King Of Nogg 3. I should know. I have a 185/65 GX, Warlock and Genetic. I am about to max my Sura also. GX is pretty easy and cheaper. Meteor Assault just has small AoE. 


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Posted 19 February 2022 - 07:15 PM

Yeah I may go the tc route then, I heard in later patches you don't need to target mobs with it too . My problem is ill want diab boots and wings set up and I haven't even seen wings in any vendor's so I don't even know what the market price is for them >.<
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Posted 25 August 2022 - 07:20 AM

Dont know if you still need this but u can watch my vid for some tips. You can also read the vid description for more info

https://youtu.be/Q4HWysdvmxc


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