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[Stormblitz]

- Lately i've been checking current WOE, and i want to survey these things below,

  What type of WOE improvement that you would suggest ? and what kind event that you want to be held?

 

If you are planning an Event WoE, at least make rewards worth fighting for. Otherwise people will just ignore it and take a break. Put something special, like exclusive gear, cards, or items that can only be obtained during the event. That WoE should also be held in 1 castle or realm as there aren’t too many players who play WoE nowadays. The guild to hold that castle or realm at the end of Event WoE gets the prize. Perhaps give exclusive costumes to every player in the winning guild as well.

 

Also, I recommend GM’s to monitor players during event WoE. Too many players rely on cheats and 3^rd party software and can’t play without them. If caught, GM’s should do something about it. People are asking for fair play, so everything should be done to enforce it.

 

Removing OCP’s and MVP cards from WoE is a good suggestion. Many players now rely on MVP cards like Sarah Card, and OCPs to get 100% Demi-human/player resist. It would be nice to see MVPs and OCPs removed so that players with real skills and knowledge of combat can shine. I know a few players including myself who can play well without those items. Remove those items, and most players will be nothing. In any case, this may also promote some teamwork again.

 

[Boyeteers]

Bruv make cinnamoroll costume tradeable ploxx. It eatin up storage.

[ChakriGuard]

Thank you for all your feedback,

- Lately i've been checking current WOE, and i want to survey these things below,
What type of WOE improvement that you would suggest ? and what kind event that you want to be held?

Best Regards,
GM Beelzebub

Few more notes,

Its been shown already that disable MvPs, OCPs, and Kachues didnt really get people to WoE, BUT it did help to lower the barrier to enter.

To get people to WoE, WoE must give something that only exclusively available in WoE, or something very valuable in PvM such as MvP cards at low chance. Cards like Polluted Spider Queen, or Jungolian, or Death Witch card. Doesnt make sense if WoE rewards are trash, and worse than PvM items esp WoE is much harder than PvM.

The further issue is people in WoE cheat. However, with a disable of MvPs, OCPs, and Kachues, it will render the use of NDL. Now about autopot, put a 0.25 second cooldown on all healing items. With 0.25 second cooldown, even a retard can pot as fast as autopot.

Increase damage reduction from 40% to 60%.

With a potion cooldown, autopot should matter less.
With powerful items being disabled, the entry barrier is small.
With good WoE rewards, players are motivated to WoE and play with friends in parties.

The last issue is WoE times. I would recommend WoE time to move foeard or backward 2 hours every month. For exmaple, if WoE time starts at 4 pm in March, then WoE will start at 6 pm in April, 8 pm in May, etc. This will allow everyone to have a chance to try WoE.

But eh, just getting a post count. I have little faith that WP will do anything to fix WoE or promote WoE. Hard for WP to do anything too as some people will always complain if WoE gives too good rewards. Thus I also understand a tough position WP is currently in.

Like you guys havent even disabled RODEX already which is potentially used in duping items.

Edited by ChakriGuard, 24 February 2024 - 07:22 AM.

[Daryunrsmith]

 

Thank you for all your feedback,

 

- For sealed card, it is sealed card and with the lowest rate in kachua (no sealed drake card),

  if the feedback from community is not good/don't wanna that type of items in kachua , we'll consider it again.

 

- Lately i've been checking current WOE, and i want to survey these things below,

  What type of WOE improvement that you would suggest ? and what kind event that you want to be held? 

Best Regards,
GM Beelzebub

 

 

I'd like to add some further recommendation on the refine system.

 

Now with the introduction of BSB usage discount event design to reduce the cost of upgrade, in reality, the BSB price doubled making the cost even more expensive.

 

This may cause by the demand of material used in grading and refinement of LV 5 Weapon and  LV 2 armor. In the end, this does not provided any benefit for the key equipment that still mostly being used.

 

My proposition is to restore the refinement from 10 to 11 at 100% rate for Armor Lv. 1 and Weapon Lv. 1-4 but "only if the ores used are from cash shop " ie. HD Bradium and HD Carnium exclusively. This will relieve some soaring in demand for BSB making the price more affordable for all. 

 

Moreover by exclusively reserve the 10-11 100% success in upgrading to the cash shop ore, WP could sell more of HD ores box and even better than before which player can switch between normal and HD ores.

 

I believe this is compromise solution which improve the quality of life for every player based and better sales for WP to support server .

 

i think the decision that WP remove 10-11 100% refinement chance drastically reduce the incentive for player to refine the item and reduce the sales of HD Branium and Carnium box and potentially hurt the revenue.

Edited by Daryunrsmith, 24 February 2024 - 09:39 AM.

[Silvervine]

I agree to disable Kachua and OCP gear in WoE since some of the items make WoE so broken today, but don't disable MVP Cards.

 

PvM players are willing to play this game to farm MVP cards that can be sold to WoE/PvP players at a high price. If the MVPs are disabled, then there is no reason to farm those cards.

 

I remember the old days when there were no OCP or Kachua, The WoE scene was very good and balanced even with MVP cards all around.

[Sewasan]

 

I agree to disable Kachua and OCP gear in WoE since some of the items make WoE so broken today, but don't disable MVP Cards.

 

PvM players are willing to play this game to farm MVP cards that can be sold to WoE/PvP players at a high price. If the MVPs are disabled, then there is no reason to farm those cards.

 

I remember the old days when there were no OCP or Kachua, The WoE scene was very good and balanced even with MVP cards all around.

 

 

Kachua, OCP gear and Shadow gear so you can counter mvps, i still think mvps should be disabled if you want a well balanced woe, but, anyways, none os that is going to happen anyways, hasnt happened in more than 10 years, and again, most hardcore woe players quit long ago, even a lot of the commited guilds quit long ago too, disabling all that gear will probably just cause the opposite effect lel
 

[KriticalAssassin]

Yeah, I don't think it's as simple is disabling gears now, skills have a lot of new multipliers and 4th class talents that we do so much damage even if we have crappy gear.

[Boyeteers]

Lol if ppls want buffed godlies why not delete all godlies n recipes and start over then buff gods. No buddy wants to woe these days anyways bruv.

[EdwardEG]

Honestly, I don't see a reason why i should put my money to quickly get good equipments. I play here just to enjoy instances, quest runs, nostalgic gameplay and getting deep understanding in more of its new 4th job features and so on..

 

They don't do Ragnarok World Championship on this server, so....

[ChakriGuard]

Lol if ppls want buffed godlies why not delete all godlies n recipes and start over then buff gods. No buddy wants to woe these days anyways bruv.

 

Ofc we dont. We love ez contents. Whoever says iRO needs challenge is a god damn lier lol. You feel me!? 

 

Your suggestion isnt wrong. As I said, some PvM folks will be pissed af if WP buffed gods. People always pursue self interest and benefits. The reason PvM folks dont want cash shop isnt for the better good of the game. They're basically protecting their values and asserts. With your logic, lets have MvP in cash shop. Who still wants to PvM and grind brainlessly these days anyway bruhhhhh lol

[ChakriGuard]

 

Thank you for all your feedback,

 

- For sealed card, it is sealed card and with the lowest rate in kachua (no sealed drake card),

  if the feedback from community is not good/don't wanna that type of items in kachua , we'll consider it again.

 

- Lately i've been checking current WOE, and i want to survey these things below,

  What type of WOE improvement that you would suggest ? and what kind event that you want to be held? 

Best Regards,
GM Beelzebub

 

 

Ah one more thing just came up. Always wanted to ask lol

 

Why is GTB disabled in TE but other Mvp cards allowed? I mean, you cant be cardist can you? Either allow all MvP cards or disable all MvP cards o.o

[shrikarash]

There have been atleast 30+ discussions where the GMs and mods asked for how to improve woe and 0 action has been taken in the so many years. I don't think it's even worth thinking about how to reply at this point tbh. Cause history says you'll never do anything even if there are amazing suggestions.

People have already shared a few good suggestions. Just implement some of the less breaking ones like woe skill dmg modifiers and better rewards (not even talking about better gods at this point), etc.

Don't be afraid of things breaking too much(as long as the impact isnt too much for non woers). If you take some action I'm 100% sure people will continue to share feedback more actively. You can gradually trial and error it till as many people as possible are satisfied.

Just do something for WoE. Personally ANYTHING is welcome to me. Atleast shows you're listening and willing to improve things. As long as you mention its experimental and in process of improvement im sure the woe community is flexible and willing enough for the betterment of woe in general (provided you dont once again ghost the WoE community for another 8 or so years). Not doing anything right now is same as letting it rot and die.

I wonder when the last change for anything related to woe that is not "this item is disabled in WoE TE" was. Can't even recall.

Edited by shrikarash, 26 February 2024 - 03:05 AM.

[Boyeteers]

Tbh what ppls need is dmg cap bruv. Staffs gotta patch that god dang 95% dmg cap. 55% cap on ignore mdef/def or sum like that. jRO has it kek.

[RaveMaster]

Botters & dupers making their lives with ether dusts , just look at those grade B & A MKS and moonlight paws being made everyday.

[HickV]

Botters & dupers making their lives with ether dusts , just look at those grade B & A MKS and moonlight paws being made everyday.

 

That's what I've been saying, the bots are ruining the game for actual players by messing up the economy. What's actually funny is that there are only a couple of whales on the server, most players are just average and have a couple billions to use on gears at a time. Don't think whales need more than 1 or 2 A Grade MKS/MMP, so all the bots/people grading multiple boots and expecting to sell them for like 40b and living the sweet dream are more than likely probably just wasting their time, just look at the Eden group, they never sell because 40/30b is just a delusional price for average gamers. Those gears will just rot on hoarder's storage until something better comes out and that's the true. Hope kachua's gone soon because this system is terrible for most regular players and pretty discouraging imo.

Edited by HickV, 26 February 2024 - 06:10 AM.

[Boyeteers]

Lol goodluck refinin those paws to +13 bruv. Item destroyed when fails +10-13. There seems sumthin goin on with MKS where ppls can use refine +13 on that shoe. Lvl 1 armor kek.

[Kedoxu]

Lol goodluck refinin those paws to +13 bruv. Item destroyed when fails +10-13. There seems sumthin goin on with MKS where ppls can use refine +13 on that shoe. Lvl 1 armor kek.

 

BSB can still used on Lvl 2 Armor / Weap for refining.

[Yulevia]

Before anything like WoE or whatnot, the GM's priority should be to resolve this bot issue

[clizie]

Thank you for updating my beloved Grandpa.. but is it necromancer again?
Can request a bit different monsters? Here are some
list of so
monster never been on Gramps..

Low Tiers:(70-100)
Level-Monster name
72-Sasquatch
73-Marduk
72-ninetails
77-iara(mermaid)
80-Headless Mule
80-Jing Guai
82-Zu Pho Long
82-Mavka
82-Cendriwashi
87-Noxious
87-Poison Toad
85-Babayaga
87-Spring Rabbit
87-Mao Guai
90-Hermit Plant
90-Joker
90-Elder
95-Wild rider
98-Alchemist Ameyer
98-assassin Eremes
98-monk erende ebecee
98-blacksmith howard
98-crusader egnigem
98-knight seyren
98-priest margaretha
98-hunter cecil
98-dancer josephina
98-rouge wickebaine
98-wizard kathryn
98-sage laurell

Middle Tiers:(101-125)
103-Buffalo Bandits version 3 type rockridge monsters
109-Anolian
109-Luciola Vespa
110-ancient Mimic
110-Dark Pinguicila
115-Octopot
115-Zakudam
115-Raydric
115-Nightmare Verit
115-Nightmare Minorius
117-King Kray
118-Gremlin
118-Leib Olmei
118-Succubus
118-Incubus
121-Hell Apocalypse
121-Lady Solace
121-Abyssmal Knight
121-Enkanto

High Tiers:(126-150)
130-Rata
130-Mysteltainn
131-Skeggiold black and blue
132-Bow guardian
132-Sword Guardian
135-Byrouge
135-Gemini S58
141-Am Mut
141-Fire Condor
141-Killer Mantis

Edited by clizie, 20 February 2024 - 12:13 AM.

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[aTID2]

WoE need to force player use Eden gears. Problem fix and Gravity inter lose half of iRO revenue.