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#26 IROBeelzebub

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Posted 28 June 2024 - 01:45 AM

Hello,

Updates,
Currently we are still discussing with HQ about this feature ,
it will be different from BR.

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#27 PIayboy

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Posted 28 June 2024 - 11:02 PM

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#28 YongkySH

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Posted 29 June 2024 - 09:46 AM

dont make the tax amount too crazy


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Posted 02 July 2024 - 10:50 PM

To protect "1 Billion Sphere" from being duped. I suggest a few things:

 

- No need for TAX for trading from Zeny to 1 Billion Sphere.

 

- 0 Weight. can't be traded to another player, can't be placed in storage, can't be placed in cart, can't be sold to NPC, can't be placed in guild storage, can't be send via mail, can't be dropped.

 

- Have a AUCTION HOUSE for items above 1Billion.

 

Player A (Vendor) creates auction for ITEM then sets a PASSWORD.

Player A (Vendor) sends PASSWORD to Player B (Buyer).

Player B (Buyer) enters PASSWORD to auctioned ITEM then trade using 1 Billion Sphere + zeny (if needed).


Edited by GameFreak87, 02 July 2024 - 10:55 PM.

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#30 Artemie31

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Posted 08 July 2024 - 12:56 AM

If we already have dupe-free server then i really looking forward for this item :D


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#31 ZHONGKAIH

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Posted 14 August 2024 - 10:58 PM

Any progress for this?

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Posted 15 August 2024 - 05:52 AM

what if an online website banking like features on warrportal website? where you can store zenny there then a chat system and transfer in website not in game that is monitored by GM team
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Posted 15 August 2024 - 06:04 AM

1b sphere would be a good solution (if it's implemented correctly) to the scammers issue we've been experiencing lately  :unsure: 
I'm glad GM already noticed it, but can we get an update regarding this, please? 
It's been almost 2 months since the last time we got an update :(
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#34 Ilindith

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Posted 27 August 2024 - 02:26 PM

Hello,

Updates,
Currently we are still discussing with HQ about this feature ,
it will be different from BR.

Regards
Beelzebub

 

Two months later, people still getting scammed left and right.

 

When are we getting this?
 


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Posted 27 August 2024 - 03:09 PM

HQ: 엄청난 양의 사기로 인해 거부되었습니다.

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#36 IROBeelzebub

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Posted 27 August 2024 - 11:47 PM

Hello,

We apologize that currently we still discussing it with HQ T_T

Regards
 


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#37 juanrebolledo

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Posted 07 October 2024 - 10:24 PM

Hello,

We apologize that currently we still discussing it with HQ T_T

Regards
 

Hello,

Any news related to this topic?

i suggest to make the item to only be:

  • Kafra Storable
  • Tradable

Nothing else, no Rodex, no Guild Storage, etc.

Hopefully we can hear from you soon  B)


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#38 Shrimply

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Posted 08 October 2024 - 02:41 PM

Crazy to see the first reactions to this is the duping boogeyman,
I guess I'm not smart enough to understand the difference between potentially duping these spheres or any high value item


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Posted 15 October 2024 - 10:37 PM

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So I've recently took this screenshot of someone selling their full set of equips for 130 billion zeny.  So lets begin with facts. 

 

Fact 1. One single character can hold a maximum of one billion zeny hence this thread.

 

Fact 2. One single account (without paying for other slots) can hold a maximum of 9 characters.

 

Fact 3. That means for this person and the person he or she is dealing would both need 15 accounts each with 9 characters holding one billion zeny...................

 

I'm literally at a loss for words.

 

I have so many questions right now but I'm too stunned to type LMFAO! 

 

At this point what's to say that the entire game is ran by like 3 people each with 15 accounts thinking that their playing a game with 1.4k other people (Server count) when in fact it's just like 5 people with 30 accounts......am I the only human? Have I just been playing a game with 3 other people this entire time? LITERALLY MAYBE! MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm done.  :heh:  :gawi:

 

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#40 Ilindith

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Posted 16 October 2024 - 01:44 PM

Nice "facts" there. Allow me to check them.

 

A character can hold 2,147,483,648z, though functionally people only two 2bil, or more precisely, 1,999,999,998 since you can only trade 999,999,999 at a time.

 

A single account can hold much more than 9 characters. 9 has only been the limit since the 4th job update, there are plenty of accounts with 15 characters out there OR even more due to server merges or booster events.

 

130/2 = 65 characters

 

The system is still pure -_- -_- regardless though.


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Posted 16 October 2024 - 03:50 PM

Oh ty ty but even so you'll still have to make a "new" account to receive those extra slots old accounts that were already made won't reap the rewards of new updates.  But I guess if you're a new player it's cool but also if you're a new player this wouldn't concern you as you wouldn't have the funds to care about all this. 


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Posted 13 November 2024 - 12:47 PM

It's pretty self-explainatory to either have a high value token or an increased zeny cap for trading purposes. Otherwise the game itself encourages scamming.


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Posted 14 November 2024 - 05:25 AM

It's pretty self-explainatory to either have a high value token or an increased zeny cap for trading purposes. Otherwise the game itself encourages scamming.

Well, they can't increase the zeny cap. As far as we're concerned, iRO is 32-bit. A signed 32-bit integer has a maximum value of 2,147,483,647 therefore that's the maximum amount of zeny we can hold and the maximum damage we can deal(excluding multi-hit skills which bypasses this through multiple hits).


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Posted 14 November 2024 - 12:21 PM

They added in the item during 4th expanded update but no way to obtain it, lmao.


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Posted 14 November 2024 - 04:49 PM

Well, they can't increase the zeny cap. As far as we're concerned, iRO is 32-bit. A signed 32-bit integer has a maximum value of 2,147,483,647 therefore that's the maximum amount of zeny we can hold and the maximum damage we can deal(excluding multi-hit skills which bypasses this through multiple hits).

 

They have switched many times through the history of the game from 32bit to 64bit like base exp/job exp (check packet ZC_LONGLONGPAR_CHANGE). The issue is its not worth the time and the cost to update a core mechanic of such an old game if your server economy is healthy or if you have a tradeable token for over 1B. The latter should be the only thing we could expect from Gravity.


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Posted 19 November 2024 - 06:48 PM

So let me get this straight. We've been wanting this as a solution to the trading issues this game has for a long time.

 

And your solution was to charge us real money for it, and bottleneck us for it?

Do you know how many trillions of zeny are on this server?

 

WP : "Don't want to get scammed? Pay us for it. Also keep getting scammed because we limited the supply"

 

Christ.


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Posted 20 November 2024 - 05:26 PM

@GM Beelzebub, 300 tokens per week just isn’t enough, they run out in a matter of hours. This system was supposed to help prevent scams and benefit the whole server, but with such a strict limit, it’s not really doing that. Instead, it’s turning into something that only benefits a handful of whales while leaving everyone else out.
 

Please consider updating the feature to allow unlimited tokens. If the concern is someone duping them, that’s more of a design issue. For one, there’s no active dupe exploit in iRO right now, and two, dupes are better handled by analyzing logs, not by putting limits on a feature meant to help the whole server.


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