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#1 CaptainSunbear

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:24 AM

After today's maintenance players saw the banner in the Cash Shop window that said Constellation Tower January 2025.

It is known that this update replaces Endless Tower, a very popular instance that is run by people for a chance to fight multiple bosses in a short period of time. 

It is also known that a lot of the equipment released by Warp Portal in the past year revolves heavily around Cash Shop Gear having a combo with a certain MVP Card, most of which appear in the Endless Tower instance. In addition to that, a lot of the endgame revolves around better gearing and MVP cards dropping. Endless Tower provides all new players an opportunity to get a chance to hunt these highly sought after MVPs in the Endless Tower, the same way my F2P Spirit Handler can clear ET without any cash gear, other players can do so. Some luckier than others but we have seen a lot of people get lucky and get a card thanks to their effort in trying.
The other problem is that Constellation Tower Cards drop at a significantly much lower rate than the current MVPs

 

As of now not everyone is aware of the update as it is only mentioned in the banner in the Cash Shop window ingame. So this post is meant to bring awareness and provide a potential solution to this.

The Solution: I propose we create a second Alberta Channel. Alberta Channel 2. The purpose of this secondary channel map is to provide access to Captain Janssen at

(alberta 214, 77) in channel 2 while we keep the NPC for Constellation Tower in Channel 1.

This way we have a channel for Endless Tower and a channel for Constellation Tower. We continue to have the highly sought and most participated instance available for all new players to have their shot.


This way we do not have to do any customization beyond a 2nd channel map exclusively for Alberta to continue having access to Endless Tower and also provide Constellation Tower. 

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Edited by CaptainSunbear, 10 January 2025 - 01:34 AM.

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#2 Miraille

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:28 AM

I agree. Having access to both would be a great idea because it allows more variety in player's choice of what to do. Plus I haven't even gotten to experience Endless Tower yet. Us returning players and newbies would probably enjoy that.


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#3 Ilindith

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:29 AM

WP :

"We have read and heard your concerns and have decided to go forward with selling the new Endless Tower Tickets!"
"For 500kp you can buy a ticket that lets you access the old Endless Tower instance for two hours!"


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:44 AM

i have encounter lots of people that came back into the game and had in their goal to clear ET by themselves, theres several videos going around of multiple classes soloing it and is a goal that you can reasonably achieve on the current state of the game, i believe it would be best to keep it as an option for the end game content so those who remember doing it in the past can have a chance in tackling it, specially nowadays that MVP cards are being required on every other gear released.


Edited by vividort, 10 January 2025 - 03:27 AM.

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:53 AM

Keep ET, I haven't gotten an MVP card yet


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 02:02 AM

I encourage and support the solution provided here


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#7 MiStAWiMP

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 02:33 AM

I think old content and the nostalgia feel of Ragnarok shouldn't be compromised with the release of new content. Thousands of players strive for MVP cards they can get from ET and continue to do so for years not getting anything. That hope keeps them coming back to play ragnarok in the mist of all the new content. 
 


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#8 Shinzaku

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 03:07 AM

This is an awesome suggestion and something that would definitely help all players


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 03:34 AM

there are 26 mvp on endless tower, a good chunk of them have a combo with cash gear or are very good utility overall (i.e gtb), farming those in their respective dungeons and fields is almost impossible and there is no way a field mvp with a 1 to 8 hour cooldown could supply the whole server's mythical moonlight paws, capes or whatever.

 

the worst part about removing ET however is that 2 of those mvp are EXCLUSIVE to the tower, you can't farm them on any field or dungeon, those being Entweihen Crothen  and Naght Sieger, the only way to get those cards if ET gets removed would be buying them from someone who got them before or wait who knows how long until the limited time item Phantom's Spirit becomes available and then hope to get the card they want.


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 03:46 AM

It took us months to conquer ET for the first time but that was cut short because of the MVP green aura update.

We had to grind again just to be able to beat green aura MVPs and it wasn't easy with limited resources.

 

Replacing it with another ET-like instance just to be a DPS check for card swipers is sure a middle finger to f2p/non-whale players.

 

Keep ET, make it accessible as an alternative.


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#11 3096230415192656890

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 03:51 AM

Save ET.

 

Justice for Naght and Entweihen.

 

Coffee Daddy Betelgeuse is temporary, ivy wrapped Entweihen is forever (haunting your nightmares).


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 04:29 AM

There's a lot of MVP whose cards now are used for gear, farming for them naturally without endless tower is next to impossible.

I agree ET should be kept in some way, It would help all players and it would just be nice to keep around too. 


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 05:11 AM

+1

iRO did so many customs, and iRO can do another custom by keeping ET. It will not bring harm to community and business.

if ET is gone, how people will get Entweihen Card?

Since Thanatos Tower got revamped, the only way to get 'old' thanatos card is using bloody branch.


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#14 Salacifer

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 05:21 AM

My bro and I returned recently, and conquering ET is one of the goals that keep us going since pre-renewal.

 

But it gonna take quite a while before we get there because we are taking it slow.

 

Having it taken away before we can even challenge it is just sad...

 

Please consider CaptainSunbear's solution.


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#15 Ayato

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 05:59 AM

+1 

 

Or do them portal instance thing like Face worm and Geffen magic tournament.


Edited by Ayato, 10 January 2025 - 05:59 AM.

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 06:33 AM

How do you know Endless Tower is removed with the constellation tower update? If it is then that is a lot of content removed for new and returning player. Constellation tower has a level 240 requirement which for a lot of NA players that is a lot of grinding... IMO I think the playerbase is going to suffer if they are removing endless tower and putting in constellation tower.


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#17 XaviDucky

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 07:15 AM

Please, please, and pretty please consider to keep this ET for us. 


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 08:12 AM

+1

 

Keep ET, please!! Constellation Tower will be fun and challenging, but we also want to keep doing Endless Tower as well. 


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 09:12 AM

It took me over 8 years to complete my goal of having gotten every card drop from Endless Tower. 

And even with that, I still enjoy doing my Endless Tower runs as it became sort of a routine for me.

 

Lvl requirement 50 vs 240? Please keep Endless Tower available as it is a significant part of RO history.


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#20 Ylliw

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 11:51 AM

When they introduce At king heel instance, they removed Charleston crisis, because its unplayable. NPC's, triggering spot, and etc overlaps. Lets see what will they do here  :P


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 12:33 PM

Keep Endless Tower in iRO while having Constellation Tower at the same time. Please make it iRO custom.

The mvp cards supply are already scarce even with the Endless Tower, then why should you make the mvp cards supply even scarcer with the removal of the popular ET?
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Posted 10 January 2025 - 01:46 PM

I fully support this suggestion as it would be unwise to remove Endless Tower. It's a fun party play content for new player and part of iRO history for all of us old player. 

You don't really have to follow other server footstep on this one. You can implement Constellation Tower and keep Endless Tower as iRO custom.

Make ET great again!


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#23 driftshotx

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 02:13 PM

I strongly support this proposal. Endless Tower is a cornerstone of the game, offering players exciting and rewarding content. Removing it entirely would be a huge loss for both new and veteran players.

 

The proposed solution of adding a second Alberta channel is simple and effective. It allows us to preserve Endless Tower while introducing Constellation Tower, giving players more options and keeping them engaged with additional content.

 

This approach ensures we maintain the rich variety that keeps players coming back while still embracing new updates. I hope this option is considered as a way to enhance the game for everyone.


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#24 Keith

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 04:08 PM

I think the main problem is that the pack they get for Constellation tower comes with an update that removes access to Endless Tower (Endless Tower isn't essentially removed or erased or anything. It is just not able to be accessed VIA NPCs etc).  I think they only way around this would be copy the script and code from the NPC in Alberta that takes you to Misty Island. 

 

If they can duplicate that NPC:

1. In Alberta, talk to Captain Janssen (214, 77) and donate 10,000 Zeny.

 

and move him a few cells over.  They might be able to essentially keep everything without completely breaking the game.  This would have to be copied before adding the update to see if it was able to stay after.  Or being able to add him to the map after as his code is.  I am not sure if Captain Jannsen remains post update with an updated script.  There would essentially be two of him that way.  The only other solution is to possibly pleed with the update as it is pushed to see if Endless Tower can remain and they work on it prior to update (My stomach tells me that the update is already finished however and been pushed. Just waiting to be implemented).

 

Again. This would require lots of testing etc.  But it would be nice if we didn't have to lose content to get content especially when many of the current players are playing to collect cards and for the reason of farming.


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Posted 10 January 2025 - 04:27 PM

I don't know how well you guys know your game but the current version of Endless Tower is what players below Lv 240 look forward to most in this game. Not everyone have time to level up their character to 240. The old Endless Tower give new players a chance to earn zeny which is helpful in their character progression. Taking away Endless Tower is like taking away the most important aspect of the game for new players. Sure you can still bring Constellation Tower since the game does need a more contents given how many OCP/Kachua items you have already released.

 

However, keep Endless Tower as is, and create a new NPC for the new Constellation Tower. Problem solves. When players are happy, you guys get more money.


Edited by VanishingPoint, 10 January 2025 - 04:32 PM.

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