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[gammelfleisch]

then they definitely hit you when they are running in LR

thing is sleep hits only 6 mobs, and if i have about 15 following me 9 still can eat me while i cast sleep

[Dess]

Yeah, most high lvl tempests ive seen farming pull, cast LR and keep runing making a new pull. Thats all it takes them to kill mobs. They dont actually need sleep to grind or farm.

Maybe its time i start a tempy again (last one became a naked lvl 65 rad ).... idk why i fail sooooooo much on that class.

[XRay]

doesn't even have to be high lvl, on 65+ you as tempest shouldn't use sleep in solo grind u.u waste of time no matter how you look at it.

[Aigis]

Mmmm i prefere Staff, cause it does more damage and heal then the wand, the shield is just usefull for mp recovery, but staff has it too. But i use Knuckle too, i think the magic damage of this weapon is in the middle of the one of the wand and the one of the staff, but it has usefull stats upgrades. At the end, this are your choices:
1) Staff: more damage and better heal;
2) Wand+shield: more buffs and defense from the enchanting and more block rate (from the shield of course);
3) Knuckle: middle damage and healing, nice stats upgrades like +Additional Skill Damage or +Mind.
...At the end i prefere the staff, why? Well at lvl 65 you can buy\drop staffs that have all the others features of the others weapons, but better healing and damage always! so, why not?
Of course this is my impression, so do as you want!

[tally]

Staff and wand have the same average damage, just the staff has higher high and lower low extremes.

Wand will have a bit more damage overall from the INT.

For the L65 Theme weapons, the staff, wand and knuckles all have the same average damage.

Wand/shield has INT = more damage

Staff is almost worthless compared to the knuckles; they have the same damage and MND, but the knuckles have 0.7ish % more crit, and 360 HP rather than the staff's 360 MP.

[gammelfleisch]

Staff and wand have the same average damage, just the staff has higher high and lower low extremes.

Wand will have a bit more damage overall from the INT.

For the L65 Theme weapons, the staff, wand and knuckles all have the same average damage.

Wand/shield has INT = more damage

Staff is almost worthless compared to the knuckles; they have the same damage and MND, but the knuckles have 0.7ish % more crit, and 360 HP rather than the staff's 360 MP.

but mag dmg doesnt rise when reinforcing knuckles
besides that you can enchant sum jewels with e.g. IM hp xeons to get a lil better hp

[tally]

but mag dmg doesnt rise when reinforcing knuckles

For the L65 Theme weapons...

Magic damage doesn't rise on any of them!

[MakoXD]

but mag dmg doesnt rise when reinforcing knuckles
besides that you can enchant sum jewels with e.g. IM hp xeons to get a lil better hp

Knuckles can give pretty much HP.

[Juush]

If you read my post properly you will see i use my tempest for farming pve so why would i need resist? u need resist for pd? wow i got this game all wrong! damm

You do know that shields stop some physical attacks from hitting you, right?

[gammelfleisch]

Knuckles can give pretty much HP.

yah maybe they do, but it's not the only way to get hp on a tempest. and to combine dmg and hp knuckles are not the best option, in my opinion

[MakoXD]

HP jewles suck = lower dmg/skillcrit rate/scad

and for raid hp gear they are nice

[gammelfleisch]

well i don't tell anyone to do the same, that's just my way to go

i take most dmg from my staff, and in anyway my temp is pretty bad equipped, but enuff for what it's supposed to do (farm pd).
and a high plussed foc set gives quite nice scad/skill crit rate too

[Rapsod]

Smallower

Swallower

Edited by Rapsod, 16 June 2011 - 12:40 PM.

[Chardane]

Magic damage doesn't rise on any of them!

Enforced Swallower adds magic damage while enforced knuckles adds physical damage.
Both Banquet Knuckle and Swallower have the same CON.

Go for Swallower its the best option it adds good CON and nice MND for heal. MMW doesn't add CON while GOF only adds about 1/2 of the Swallower's CON amount.

I rarely use sleep and I don't run around like a mad woman and I have no Divine Protection or Ion Shield either. I have Rejuvenation maxed, usually does the trick. With RH S1 Staff (Good MND) it rejuvenates over 100HP per 2 sec since lvl 50 (56 now). Gives me enough time to launch all AoEs I have and Lesser Heal if I need it . Ofc I don't pull large elite mobs ^^.

[tally]

For the L65 Theme weapons...

Only resistances go up with reinforcement.

Whereas with ordinary magic weapons yes the magic damage does go up, and with ordinary knuckles it's physical damage.

MMW doesn't add CON while GOF only adds about 1/2 of the Swallower's CON amount.

A spurious claim sir/madam/it! It does indeed add CON. Wand and shield added together is the same CON as the staff.

I favour wand/shield over staff. Reasons:

• The extra enchant slots on the shield are nice as a tempest, as defence is very very useful in PvE
• Block defence
• INT for more powerful pewpews
• Skill crit, which is more useful than SCAD for PvE IMO

Everyone has their own preferences though.

Edited by tally, 16 June 2011 - 04:30 PM.

[Dess]

Knucles can only be considered since lvl 67 with RH knuckles and tbf ones. Only knukles i see worth something are the ones that pluss HP on reinforcements: lvl 67, 72, 75 and 79 . Magic dmg on knucks its quite good, but it sucks they give phys dmg (for mages). Still better that way, if they plussed magic dmg almost all mages would use knucles wich is kinda weird XD

[Wreckd]

Wand and shield for the resist, this way I don't have to suck it up and use resist ornies or add resist to my armor and can simply use skill ball and add def or otherwise a few %of resist to my armor in order to cap. I use tb shield

[Skywriter]

Wand+Shield. I'll skip all the blah, blah, blah and will just say that all op tempests use wand+shield and their DMG doesn't seem to be low (to me).

[Crftwise]

Hammer and Shield... LOLZ

[Sasuke21]

hmm lets see i tsted staff and wand shield plus 10 wand shield was better than plus 10 staff , but now i got a plus 30 ruans that is better than my pls 19 ex xenovia... staff is ok too for some classes if u mannage max at least 1 resistance. with staff and 75 set i got 80% fire so im ok^^ , for raids i wouls say staff is better cuse more dmg and scad but depends on staf

[Nerthu]

make ball +30 and despair set +15. then you have elec and fire resis cap and insane scad and crirate. i dont waste lant for the curse belt. when i stay in Terms of Service, i^m death anyway.

with this you done need the resis from tb shield (witch is the the best atm). so you can go for staff with the con incrase.

Edited by Nerthu, 17 June 2011 - 04:47 AM.

[MakoXD]

Hammer and Shield... LOLZ

magic attack and HP are better on 75 knuckles