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#1 Xanthes

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 01:57 AM

So I've been trying to do research based on any information I can find on these forums and looking at the various skills and their descriptions, heres what I got so far in terms of questions:

-Being that the goal of a combo monk is to level fast, does this assume your using SP restorative items the entire time? I ask because the Fury skill, if used, would result in having to sit down to let candence skill restore SP from time to time, or have an IV drip of SP items going. Its going to be enough of a drain on the SP bar recasting bless/agi all the time it would seem while a lowly monk (champ would be a diff story as would have a better SP pool to play with).

-Also on the note of SP and its general usage, do combo monks just use Trifecta/Quad primarily? Or do they add in Thrust as part of the normal combo? The thrust seems like it would only add an additional SP drain for each mob killed in addition to having to move up to the mob again as it just got knocked back to continue to beat on it if it did not die from the skill, as well as require more spheres to be summoned after a few usages (and thus more SP drainage).

-Is sphere absorption even worth having on my bar? Its only a net gain of 5sp, and takes 2sec to cast, seems pretty damn useless.

-After 99'ing and trans'ing to a champ, do I invest in Glacier/Chain Crush? If I went down the entire spiel of combo skills to get to Crush, thats quite a bit of SP usage, along with needing to spend more SP on a Zen to get all my spheres back (as well as lose time having to cast Zen itself before being able to move onto the next mob to rinse-repeat).

If someone could answer the questions above would be greatly appreciated. Also if could link commonly used builds for both the combo monk and champ phases of getting to Sura, along with what skills I should mainly be using as a monk and a champ (if they differ).

I guess I'm just confused as to how a monk is supposed to level efficiently with all the skill spammage it appears to need at first glance, without the SP pool to back it up. Any help and clarification appreciated.

Edit - Also, whats up with apparently wanting to use a mace as a weapon?

Edited by Xanthes, 13 June 2011 - 02:14 AM.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:17 AM

if you have the option, memo the map and save at an inn. If absorb didn't change with renewal it takes monster lvl into consideration.
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#3 Xanthes

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:30 AM

if you have the option, memo the map and save at an inn. If absorb didn't change with renewal it takes monster lvl into consideration.


Huh? I didn't even mention anything about warp skill and memo'ing things. And how would absorb have any kind of impact from monster level when its a self skill that doesn't touch any monster?
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:43 AM

memo map, teleport lvl2, USE inn to recover full hp/sp, warp portal back.
click spiritual sphere absorb, while holding shift (or /ns ON) click on monster.
edit, maces have better size mods towards medium and large and there are only few small sized monsters.

Edited by FoxyWoxy, 13 June 2011 - 02:46 AM.

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#5 Xanthes

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:52 AM

memo map, teleport lvl2, USE inn to recover full hp/sp, warp portal back.
click spiritual sphere absorb, while holding shift (or /ns ON) click on monster.
edit, maces have better size mods towards medium and large and there are only few small sized monsters.


Ok, I understand your memo/inn/teleport thing for regaining SP now, but if I was spamming combo skills wouldn't I have to make a trip every few minutes? Doesn't seem very efficient.

Still not understanding the spirit sphere absorb + click on monster thing. The spirit spheres are around me, why would clicking on the mob change anything when I'm absorbing a sphere?
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:38 AM

This makes me laugh.
I dont even play monk class but here's some help with Spiritual Sphere Absorption

Edited by kati3, 13 June 2011 - 03:38 AM.

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#7 FoxyWoxy

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:38 AM

inns fill up sp instantly and are cheap.
INGAME description of Spiritual sphere absorb "When used on monsters, this skill has a 20% chance to give the caster an amount of SP that is determined by the level of the targeted monsters"
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#8 Xanthes

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:12 AM

Ahh, ok now its starting to make sense. See I'm not in game yet, waiting till I get my new laptop before I buy a VIP for a month and start on the Ymir server. I was going off the skill description from the main site and the himeyasha skill calc's.

With that out of the way and a source of mana when needed, I wouldn't really have a big need to do the tele2-inn-warp back thing would I?

Could still use some advice on the skill usage while a monk, and again while a champ. Although I suppose now that my SP concern is mostly out of the way, I should just do the full combo's anyway while in Fury.
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 04:48 AM

Why are you concerning about SP? You can Spiritual sphere absorb on the SAME monster 24/7. You can have infinite SP that way.
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Posted 17 June 2011 - 08:02 AM

SSA has quite low success rate, but yes, that's mainly how I refill my SP since I don't like to pot.
I use Thrust if it will finish off the mob.
Gracier Fist is rather pointless to me. Chain Crush Combo is quite nice, but it doesn't deal high dmg as I expect for the '1500% ATK' thing.
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