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[AlisiaMT]

So, I had a dream about 3rd Jobs the other day so I decided to actually make up the names for them based on the dream. It is still incomplete but this is what I have as of yet. I am planning on making descriptions for the jobs and figuring out which weapon each new job will use (maybe new ones?). If anybody wishes to contribute their thoughts and ideas please do.

_________________Sniper (Defense)(Hebarn)
_________Scout
_________________Hunter (Offense)(Arua)

Hawker

_________________Ninja (Defense)(Arua)
_________Raider
_________________Assassin (Offense)(Hebarn)


_________________Alchemist* (focuses on PAT, Gem, & Alchemy) (Offense)(Hebarn)
_________Artisan
_________________Tailor (focuses on equip craft) (Defense)(Arua)

Dealer

_________________B Job3 (Offense)
_________Bourgeois
_________________B Job3 (Offense)


_________________Angel (Support cleric continued) (Defense)(Arua)
_________Cleric
_________________Sprite (ATK cleric continued) (Offense)(Hebarn)

Muse**

_________________Wizard(Defense)(Arua)
_________Mage
_________________Sorcerer*** (Offense)(Hebarn)


_________________Warrior (Offense)(Arua)
_________Champion
_________________Mercenary (Offense)(Hebarn)

Soldier

_________________Paladin*** (Defense)(Arua)
_________Knight
_________________Shadow/Dark Knight*** (Offense)(Hebarn)


*In some games, Alchemists are so powerful that they learn to control the elements. Knowing this Alchemist could either fit into the Mage or the Artisan 3rd Job category.
**Since the Muse class dealves into magic while the other classes stick to the physical realm, I thought it would be fun if the Muse class were the only group to evenutally mutate into something more magical for their class, such as the sprite and angel I picked for the Cleric 3rd Job.
***Thanks to the community for helping contribute names and ideas

Edited by AlisiaMT, 20 July 2011 - 03:55 PM.

[Lybis]

I would be very surprised if we ever see 3rd job come out. As much as I would love it too I just don't think they have the man power to do it. But if they did, it would be awesome!
+1

[Zurn]

_________________Sniper (Defense)
_________Scout
_________________Hunter (Offense)

Hawker

_________________Ninja (Defense)
_________Raider
_________________Assassin (Offense)

love the ninja class~
assassin eh still love it~

[Xenobite]

I've seen lots of "3rd job" proposals and ideas so far but it would be nice if someone could go through all of those old and new ideas/proposals and put it up on one place

besides "basic" tree with job names it would be also cool if someone would make some kind of skill tree

the more ideas are refined and "finalized" it is easier to push them to developers
(if you have some ideas for skill animations/effects - add those too)

(some developers feedback on these ideas would be really nice)

Edited by Xenobite, 12 July 2011 - 02:08 PM.

[ThunderBug]

would be a good idea, if we could get to lvl 300, otherwise we wouldnt have enough skill points
cleric will have about enough to get full skills at lvl 250.. a 3th job would make it terrible

[AlisiaMT]

I've seen lots of "3rd job" proposals and ideas so far but it would be nice if someone could go through all of those old and new ideas/proposals and put it up on one place

besides "basic" tree with job names it would be also cool if someone would make some kind of skill tree

the more ideas are refined and "finalized" it is easier to push them to developers
(if you have some ideas for skill animations/effects - add those too)

(some developers feedback on these ideas would be really nice)

I don't have ideas for the animations for the skills, and, as I am solely a cleric player, I wont have many ideas for the other classes. I'll put some thought into it though and see if I can't come up with some skill names and descriptions for the classes, being as I already have an idea of what I would want for them.

[bluehell]

Someone get feuer to design them.

Edited by bluehell, 12 July 2011 - 03:15 PM.

[Chocoborouge]

Soldier

_________________K Job3 (Defense)
_________Knight
_________________K Job3 (Defense)

It is the same

[AlisiaMT]

It is the same

As I said, the names are still incomplete. The general idea would be for the Champs' 3rd job to be offensive and the knights 3rd job to be defensive, but the knights don't have a name for their 2nd job. Juggernaut? XD

[Chocoborouge]

Why not put the knight by attacking ?

Edited by Chocoborouge, 12 July 2011 - 03:34 PM.

[AlisiaMT]

Why not put the knight by attacking ?

I don't understand your question.

Edited by AlisiaMT, 12 July 2011 - 03:50 PM.

[Chocoborouge]

no nothing


Soldier

_________________Lord Knight or Rune Knight (Offense or Defense)
_________Knight
_________________Paladin (Offense or Defense)

Edited by Chocoborouge, 12 July 2011 - 04:23 PM.

[Gojio]

I dont think 3rd job should be split into 2 sides like 2nd jobs. When you pick your 2nd job you already choose the specific path you want to follow. The 3rd job should be a confirmation and a specialization of your 2nd job.

I would go for:

Scout --> Assassin
Raider --> Ninja
Artisan --> Economist
Bourgeois --> Bomber
Knight --> Paladin
Champ --> Destroyer
Mage --> Wizard
Cleric --> Priest

Edited by Gojio, 12 July 2011 - 04:26 PM.

[Chocoborouge]

I dont think 3rd job should be split into 2 sides like 2nd jobs. When you pick your 2nd job you already choose the specific path you want to follow. The 3rd job should be a confirmation and a specialization of your 2nd job.

I would go for:

Scout --> Assassin
Raider --> Ninja
Artisan --> Economist
Bourgeois --> Bomber
Knight --> Paladin
Champ --> Destroyer
Mage --> Wizard
Cleric --> Priest

+1
I agree with you

Edited by Chocoborouge, 12 July 2011 - 04:31 PM.

[AlisiaMT]

I dont think 3rd job should be split into 2 sides like 2nd jobs. When you pick your 2nd job you already choose the specific path you want to follow. The 3rd job should be a confirmation and a specialization of your 2nd job.

I would go for:

Scout --> Assassin
Raider --> Ninja
Artisan --> Economist
Bourgeois --> Bomber
Knight --> Paladin
Champ --> Destroyer
Mage --> Wizard
Cleric --> Priest

WIZARD!! That's the word I couldn't think of!!

I was just following the flow of how they had it. But of course if you really think about it it goes 1"Job"(visitor) > 4 jobs/job > 2 Jobs/job, so it would make sense to have one job/job next. (then you wouldn't be able to "choose" your job. It would be mandantory to have the job chosen for you which Isn't the trend.

(i'll continue discussing any replies later. I'm headed home for the night )

[Aviv4]

Sorcerer is another option for Wizard...

[RobbyKay]

_________________Warrior (Offense)
_________Champion
_________________Mercenary (Offense)

A champion would be higher in the soldier hierarchy than warriors or mercenaries, in my opinion. Otherwise they're alright, even though admittedly I'd rather have the names a bit more unique (assassins, ninjas, sorcerers, wizards etc. can be found in most MMORPGs). But yeah, this is just my opinion. Should they ever actually implement them, I wouldn't really care what they'd be called, as long as I could play some new content!

[AlisiaMT]

A champion would be higher in the soldier hierarchy than warriors or mercenaries, in my opinion. Otherwise they're alright, even though admittedly I'd rather have the names a bit more unique (assassins, ninjas, sorcerers, wizards etc. can be found in most MMORPGs). But yeah, this is just my opinion. Should they ever actually implement them, I wouldn't really care what they'd be called, as long as I could play some new content!

I noticed that too. If i had it my way I would change around all the names a dealer would be changed to a...god i'm having trouble with names...apprentice thats the word then it would go to a dealer/something else then to bour/arti. I would have changed around the soldier names too.

Once again, the names are up for grabs. This is just what I came up with but I would LOOOOVVEEE suggestions. (looking up paladin right now )


Edit:
So after looking up paladin (which I loved and added to the list) I had an idea. How about instead of having us choose which 3rd job we want we get our 3rd job based off of what fate we are. (Arua being good and Hebarn being bad) So, for example, my cleric is Arua fate so she would get the Angel 3rd job. If i were to have chosen Hebarn for her she would become a sprite.

Edited by AlisiaMT, 13 July 2011 - 01:39 PM.

[Chocoborouge]

Soldier

_________________Paladin*** (Defense)
_________Knight
_________________Dark Knight***(Offense)

Edited by Chocoborouge, 13 July 2011 - 01:51 PM.

[happa]

can we have some balancing done first before we even think about another branch of classes

[tENLAVUU]

can we have some balancing done first before we even think about another branch of classes

lmao i'd +1 if i had any left xD

[AlisiaMT]

can we have some balancing done first before we even think about another branch of classes

Don't worry. by the time they look here and see this they'll have to brush off the dust carefully so it doesn't crumble into dust. I didn't want to wait till the time is right to post it tho cuz i have the worst memory known to mankind...

[Feuer]

Warlord Champion Extended Class.

Conquest:
Significantly increase the moral of your surrounding allies for a short period.

Spoiler

lv 1.
45% increase to AP, 15 second duration. CD 2min
2.
50% increase to AP, 30 second duration. CD 2min
3.
55% increase to AP, 45 second duration. CD 1min 30 second
4.
60% increase to AP, +damage, 45 second duration. CD 1min

Thunder Cry
Scream with the might of a thunder clap terrifying your enemy.

Spoiler

Lv 1.
def down 40%, 5 seconds, 85% success
lv 2.
def down 45%, 5 seconds, 90% success
lv 3.
def down 50%, 5 seconds, aspd down 20% 1 min, 90% success
lv 4
def down 55%, 5 seconds, aspd down 30% 1 min, stun 3 seconds, 90% success

Savagry
Brutalize your own body to reduce enemy's move speed.

Spoiler

lv 1.
70% mspd down, 2,250 hp cost, 70% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 2.
80% mspd down, 2,000 hp cost, 80% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 3.
90% mspd down, 1,750 hp cost, 90% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 4
100% mspd down, 1,500 hp cost, 100% success, duration 5 seconds.

Bloody Rampage
Go into a state of rage to inflict bleeding damage and healing yourself with the blood of your enemy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
1,175 reliable magic damage, 250 hp per second drain, 2,340 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 1 min
lv 2
1,225 reliable magic damage, 300 hp per second drain, 2,580 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 50 second
lv 3
1,275 reliable magic damage, 350 hp per second drain, 2,820 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 40 second
lv 4.
1,325 reliable magic damage, 400 hp per second drain, 3,060 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 30 second

-----------==================----------------

Sentinal : Champion Extended Class

Iron Stance
Cast your body in iron, sacrificing movement to greatly improve defense for a short period. Should be used as a last stand strategy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
-100% mspd, defense 100% for 5 seconds
lv 2.
-100% mspd, defense 110% for 5 seconds
lv 3.
-100% mspd, defense 120% for 5 seconds
lv 4.
-100% mspd, defense 130% for 5 seconds

Violent Swing
Violently and recklessly swing your weapon in an attempt to crush your enemy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
1,580 weapon damage
lv 2.
1,660 weapon damage
lv 3.
1,740 weapon damage
lv 4.
1,820 weapon damage

Battle Tactics
Call from the wisdom of your battle hardened ancestors to increase critical by an exceptional amount.

Spoiler

lv 1.
60% critical, 10 seconds
lv 2.
75% critical, 12 seconds
lv 3
90% critical, 15 seconds
lv 4
105% critical, 20 seconds

Shadow Phase
Step into the shadows and sabotauge your enemys armor.

Spoiler

lv 1.
enemy -50% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 80%
lv 2.
enemy -60% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 85%
lv 3.
enemy -70% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 90%
lv 4.
enemy -80% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 95%

-----------==================----------------

Paladin : Knight Extended Class

Blood Infinity
Dramatically alter ones blood system to regenerate health at an alarming rate for a short time. Best used at the start of a fight.

Spoiler

lv 1.
HP recovery +1,000 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv. 2
HP recovery +1,500 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv 3.
HP recovery +2,000 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv 4.
HP recovery +2,500 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown

Mana Salve
Sacrifice your mana to heal youself or an ally. Long recovery time.

Spoiler

lv. 1
MP -500, Heal for 6,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 2.
MP -400, Heal for 7,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 3.
MP -300, Heal for 8,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 4.
MP -200, Heal for 9,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.

Holy Guardian
Use the holy energy from your shield to cure yourself from disease.

Spoiler

lv 1
Dispell all status ailments, 80% success.
lv 2
Dispell all status ailments, 85% success.
lv 3.
Dispell all status ailments, 90% success.
lv 4.
Dispell all status ailments, 95% success.

Ameliorate
Call forth the vengeance spirits to consume enemies around you in holy energy, cleansing them painfully.

Spoiler

lv 1
AoE Radius 5m, 1,050 reliable magic damage, 4 min cooldown.
lv 2
AoE Radius 7m, 1,150 reliable magic damage, 3 min cooldown.
lv 3
AoE Radius 9m, 1,250 reliable magic damage, 2 min cooldown.
lv 4
AoE Radius 11m, 1,350 reliable magic damage, 1 min cooldown.

I'll submit the rest to my thread here

Edited by Feuer, 20 July 2011 - 11:45 PM.

[RobbyKay]

Looking great, the debuffs seem crazy though, but it could be very interesting if they'll balance out somehow between classes PVPing would most likely involve a lot more tactics and skill this way.

It should be Sentinel rather than Sentinal though

Good job on the skill icons too!

Edited by RobbyKay, 20 July 2011 - 11:20 PM.

[yeoldknight]

Warlord Champion Extended Class.

Conquest:
Significantly increase the moral of your surrounding allies for a short period.

Spoiler

lv 1.
45% increase to AP, 15 second duration. CD 2min
2.
50% increase to AP, 30 second duration. CD 2min
3.
55% increase to AP, 45 second duration. CD 1min 30 second
4.
60% increase to AP, +damage, 45 second duration. CD 1min

Thunder Cry
Scream with the might of a thunder clap terrifying your enemy.

Spoiler

Lv 1.
def down 40%, 5 seconds, 85% success
lv 2.
def down 45%, 5 seconds, 90% success
lv 3.
def down 50%, 5 seconds, aspd down 20% 1 min, 90% success
lv 4
def down 55%, 5 seconds, aspd down 30% 1 min, stun 3 seconds, 90% success

Savagry
Brutalize your own body to reduce enemy's move speed.

Spoiler

lv 1.
70% mspd down, 2,250 hp cost, 70% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 2.
80% mspd down, 2,000 hp cost, 80% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 3.
90% mspd down, 1,750 hp cost, 90% success, duration 5 seconds
lv 4
100% mspd down, 1,500 hp cost, 100% success, duration 5 seconds.

Bloody Rampage
Go into a state of rage to inflict bleeding damage and healing yourself with the blood of your enemy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
1,175 reliable magic damage, 250 hp per second drain, 2,340 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 1 min
lv 2
1,225 reliable magic damage, 300 hp per second drain, 2,580 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 50 second
lv 3
1,275 reliable magic damage, 350 hp per second drain, 2,820 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 40 second
lv 4.
1,325 reliable magic damage, 400 hp per second drain, 3,060 hp recovery over 10 seconds, 10 second duration. CD 30 second

-----------==================----------------

Sentinal : Champion Extended Class

Iron Stance
Cast your body in iron, sacrificing movement to greatly improve defense for a short period. Should be used as a last stand strategy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
-100% mspd, defense 100% for 5 seconds
lv 2.
-100% mspd, defense 110% for 5 seconds
lv 3.
-100% mspd, defense 120% for 5 seconds
lv 4.
-100% mspd, defense 130% for 5 seconds

Violent Swing
Violently and recklessly swing your weapon in an attempt to crush your enemy.

Spoiler

lv 1.
1,580 weapon damage
lv 2.
1,660 weapon damage
lv 3.
1,740 weapon damage
lv 4.
1,820 weapon damage

Battle Tactics
Call from the wisdom of your battle hardened ancestors to increase critical by an exceptional amount.

Spoiler

lv 1.
60% critical, 10 seconds
lv 2.
75% critical, 12 seconds
lv 3
90% critical, 15 seconds
lv 4
105% critical, 20 seconds

Shadow Phase
Step into the shadows and sabotauge your enemys armor.

Spoiler

lv 1.
enemy -50% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 80%
lv 2.
enemy -60% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 85%
lv 3.
enemy -70% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 90%
lv 4.
enemy -80% defense, duration 5 seconds, success 95%

-----------==================----------------

Paladin : Knight Extended Class

Blood Infinity
Dramatically alter ones blood system to regenerate health at an alarming rate for a short time. Best used at the start of a fight.

Spoiler

lv 1.
HP recovery +1,000 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv. 2
HP recovery +1,500 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv 3.
HP recovery +2,000 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown
lv 4.
HP recovery +2,500 for 10 seconds. 3 min cooldown

Mana Salve
Sacrifice your mana to heal youself or an ally. Long recovery time.

Spoiler

lv. 1
MP -500, Heal for 6,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 2.
MP -400, Heal for 7,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 3.
MP -300, Heal for 8,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.
lv 4.
MP -200, Heal for 9,500 HP, 2 min cooldown.

Holy Guardian
Use the holy energy from your shield to cure yourself from disease.

Spoiler

lv 1
Dispell all status ailments, 80% success.
lv 2
Dispell all status ailments, 85% success.
lv 3.
Dispell all status ailments, 90% success.
lv 4.
Dispell all status ailments, 95% success.

Ameliorate
Call forth the vengeance spirits to consume enemies around you in holy energy, cleansing them painfully.

Spoiler

lv 1
AoE Radius 5m, 1,050 reliable magic damage, 4 min cooldown.
lv 2
AoE Radius 7m, 1,150 reliable magic damage, 3 min cooldown.
lv 3
AoE Radius 9m, 1,250 reliable magic damage, 2 min cooldown.
lv 4
AoE Radius 11m, 1,350 reliable magic damage, 1 min cooldown.

I'll submit more in a bit.

Damn you're doing good!