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[Zinja]

Hi,

Do you miss the Amazing Skill that was Soul exhale. The good times when a sorc used to completely fill all of your sp ?
Every one loves sp. Kindly remove this heinous Disability of Scholar/sorc party usefulness .

There is no rep So kindly + this post to Show your support and Need for Soul Exhale to return to its previous self.

Thanks.

P.S The one thing that has been bothering me for a long while is it the skill is called SOUL EXHALE not inhale, not trade,not exchange,not any other -_-ty name. any one would expect that this has to do with giving out SP.
This needs serious fixing.

Edited by Zinja, 04 August 2011 - 02:15 AM.

[GuardianTK]

I'd rather they make it so Fury status from Rising Dragon be made Dispell-able.

[Zinja]

Get fisted/goh by Sura much?

[Hrothmund]

no. If you want to SPAM the most powerful skill in RO, buy some pots.

but for god sakes remove the iRO specific 50% SP leech when entering DG, its annoying as heck.

[Mwrip]

The last class that needs a buff is Sura, and this change would benefit no one but. There simply isn't anyone else that can possibly go through mana faster than a scholar can refill it.

[Inubashiri]

I believe it was pointed out that filling full SP for a Sura everytime in Renewal would be rather unbalanced in of itself. My main is a sorcerer, I don't like the change either, however I can see the point coming from the other side that this would indirectly benefit Suras quite a bit. I'm glad the cast time was fixed though, that was the worst. Mine has like 43k HP sometimes and so like 2 indulge is probably enough to fill a Sura up or close to it.

Edited by Inubashiri, 04 August 2011 - 02:04 AM.

[Zinja]

THAT IS AN UTTERLY POINTLESS ARGUMENT.

people use Ygg seeds, berries,ales, heck we even have the bloody 1 weight blue pots.

why the-_- kill the party usefulness of a scholar class ?

[Zinja]

Mine has like 43k HP sometimes and so like 2 indulge is probably enough to fill a Sura up or close to it.

if you have 43k hp 2 indulge would fill up your sp.
Indulge converts 10% of Your HP to SP ( self targeted skill).

[Kadelia]

Sorcerer has like 2x the SP of most classes except maybe genetic, int-sura and bishop, but a genetic shouldn't need soul exhale, sura is overpowered with exhale, and a bishop is fail if they constantly need exhale and don't know what a blue potion is. Can you list some legit reasons why this skill is not useful restoring 50% of the scholar's SP?

[Inubashiri]

if you have 43k hp 2 indulge would fill up your sp.
Indulge converts 10% of Your HP to SP ( self targeted skill).

Indulge gives (HP * 0.1) / 2 SP. Its takes technically 3 Indulges to fill my SP fully.

[Zinja]

Indulge gives (HP * 0.1) / 2 SP. Its takes technically 3 Indulges to fill my SP fully.

2-3 indulges ok. agreed that is not the point.
You said 2 indulge would fill up a sura ..
i think you meant soul exhale. even if you did you never fill any targets hp up unless they have less than or equal to half of your maximum sp.

[Zinja]

people use Ygg seeds, berries,ales, heck we even have the bloody 1 weight blue pots. why the-_- kill the party usefulness of a scholar class ?

Sorcerer has like 2x the SP of most classes except maybe genetic, int-sura and bishop, but a genetic shouldn't need soul exhale, sura is overpowered with exhale, and a bishop is fail if they constantly need exhale and don't know what a blue potion is. Can you list some legit reasons why this skill is not useful restoring 50% of the scholar's SP?

Can you list some legit reasons why this skill has to be nerfed when there there is a limitless supply of Berries/seeds/ales,Woe blue pots of weight=1.

[Inubashiri]

2-3 indulges ok. agreed that is not the point.
You said 2 indulge would fill up a sura ..
i think you meant soul exhale. even if you did you never fill any targets hp up unless they have less than or equal to half of your maximum sp.

I was speaking in terms of pre-renewal, I'm saying it would be unbalanced if it still worked the way it did pre-renewal.

[Zinja]

THAT IS AN UTTERLY POINTLESS ARGUMENT. people use Ygg seeds, berries,ales, heck we even have the bloody 1 weight blue pots. why the-_- kill the party usefulness of a scholar class ? JUST What the hell is unbalanced

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I was speaking in terms of pre-renewal, I'm saying it would be unbalanced if it still worked the way it did pre-renewal.

[Inubashiri]

Restorative items cost zeny (quite a bit actually if you're using alot of them), soul exhale is free. I never said I liked the change, however I can see why they did it.

[AtlasThunderbeef]

I say a cool down on using actual gfist, around 1 or 2 minutes.

That way it can be used as a "ultimate superpowerful move", instead of the standard "snap snap gfist snap snap gfist".




Skills are way too spammable. If they had cooldowns and not a cooldown on a skill like Snap, that's stupid. But attack skills.
People would have to think a little before spamming their skills. "Oh if I gfist now I won't be able to gfist for 2 minutes, better use GOH and my other skills instead".

Something like that.

[Inubashiri]

I say a cool down on using actual gfist, around 1 or 2 minutes.

Pretty sure 90% of the community would quit if that happened

[Ularis]

I soul exhaled a Grand Peco and got 0 sp.

Idk much about SE but does it work differently on monsters?

My first Scholar

[Inubashiri]

I soul exhaled a Grand Peco and got 0 sp.

Idk much about SE but does it work differently on monsters?

My first Scholar

Doesn't work on monsters.

[Ularis]

Doesn't work on monsters.

You mean no exchange occurs, right? Because I did use it the effect was there.

I probably gave all my SP to that Grand Peco.

Beware Unlimited SBing Grand Peco on the loose.

[Inubashiri]

You mean no exchange occurs, right? Because I did use it the effect was there.

I probably gave all my SP to that Grand Peco.

Beware Unlimited SBing Grand Peco on the loose.

Okay yes you are right it does work, what I meant was you won't receive anything in return. People taking me too literal in this thread.

Edited by Inubashiri, 04 August 2011 - 06:37 AM.

[Snewt]

You can't get SP from monsters with SE.

Edit: I guess I wasn't fast enough.

Edited by Snewt, 04 August 2011 - 06:42 AM.

[Inubashiri]

You can't get SP from monsters with SE.

Edit: I guess I wasn't fast enough.

Its all good, you just backing me up

[Ularis]

A bit neurotic when I'm fully awake. I now see everything clearly.

[jax5]

I'd rather they make it so Fury status from Rising Dragon be made Dispell-able.

Your wish will come true if/when clearance is changed to be targettable outside party. Then, people will also lose all sorts of other buffs that aren't normally dispellable: preserve, rune buffs, certain RG buffs, etc.