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#1 jls1znv9999

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 03:33 PM

Currently at level 69 with hp of 6983hp

Ok iknow i can go crazy reinforcing and cleaning out jewelry and redoing it. Just seems like i am off somewhere

S1 Kush +6
Lab M-C set, 3 pc's +15 the 5 are +10
S1 Polar Upper Lower Shoes all +4
S2 Polar
+11 Helm
+ 7 Gloves
+ 8 Pauldron

S2 Rounderoot Shield + 12
I have misc hp xeons in jewelry set

Aside from finding another piece of S1 polar and +++++ everything.
I could use some help please.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 04:07 PM

once u finish s1 polar +30 it and enchant with some good con xeons, at least rh or better

m-c parts are ok i think, lvl 65 bracelets are better tho and reinforced exi or better earrings and enchant them with at least 20hps or ofc better

+30 your kush and get a s1 rounderoot and +30 it too. alternatively if you have many carus, make +30 tyrant sword/axe and shield

basically +30 as much stuff as possible

7k hp is very low for prot, most dps chars are running with 10k+ hp
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#3 jls1znv9999

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:02 PM

once u finish s1 polar +30 it and enchant with some good con xeons, at least rh or better

m-c parts are ok i think, lvl 65 bracelets are better tho and reinforced exi or better earrings and enchant them with at least 20hps or ofc better

+30 your kush and get a s1 rounderoot and +30 it too. alternatively if you have many carus, make +30 tyrant sword/axe and shield

basically +30 as much stuff as possible

7k hp is very low for prot, most dps chars are running with 10k+ hp


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:19 AM

ha i wasn't realy much help but the sad truth if, if you want to be top of any class you need to invest hard wheter with in game resources or real money

but i guess since prot is not affected by pvp you only have to invest as much to be comfortable to tank most raids

also if you don't already have, get pet lvl 10, kind of expensive but after you get it you only need to pay 250 points per month to keep it and ofc cs costume too

and you can also do td before you go raiding to get max 20%hp and 10% stats 1 day boosts or buy those 30 day ones in mall from lucky boxes or for lant from people

ah to end this wall of text, don't make too many alts cos they will eat up your money in game and real life even if having only 1 or 2 chars might get boring. since your main seems to be prot maybe make aoe farmer char to farm during events etc. and if you like pvp mb make 65 foc char

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:32 AM

lvl 65 bracelets are better tho

No, they have more HP, but no CON, nor the 15 CON you'd lose from the M-C set bonus. Ah unless you meant the DS ones? Dunno bout them

Best way I can see to get HP on jewels is
  • M-C rings and bracelets
  • Doom Cheras CON necklace and belt (Firedragon Molar and Iron Wall Belt), or Biskra versions if you don't have carus
  • Reinforced earrings (ideally carus, or the L75 rare) - either physical for damage, or magic for heal boost and MP recovery (both have same CON)

As mentioned, enchant with the best HP xeons you can - RH Breathing, S1 Ion Mine HP xeons, etc etc..., and get them reinforced as high as possible (up to you to use mall or not)

For armour, S1 Seamless is getting rarer and more expensive. The S2 RH set, Fierce, isn't too bad if you can get it +10 or more.
If you want to go carus, the Glorious or Conqueror sets are the best S2 sets you can get (Sacred Light hasn't got much more CON, is nearly impossible to collect, and costs a hell of a lot to reinforce).
Enchant armour with the best CON xeons you can find, eg DC CON scales, RH XX/CON Remains etc. The Ion Mine 3 CON xeons aren't too bad for filling the last few slots up.

Weapons - S1 swords and shields (ie Kushy and Kalion, RH and Roundel) are hard to beat unless you get the Tyrant or ET ones. Again, reinforce these as much as you can. For S2, the RH weapons aren't awful for HP.
Enchant with shield with CON, sword with whatever you want (as you can't get HP into weapons in S2).

Oh and level up! You get more base CON with levels :blink:

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:36 AM

No, they have more HP, but no CON, nor the 15 CON you'd lose from the M-C set bonus.


lol woot

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i believe they up 2 con per step
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 09:55 AM

lol woot

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i believe they up 2 con per step


yes they do 2 +10 determined willingness is same con as 2 +15 m-c bracelets with set bonus...ofc u need to enchant hp over m-c bracelets so get to work
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:07 PM

man u do it all wrong! listen to him

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 06:51 PM

man u do it all wrong! listen to him

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 04:40 PM

Yeah i think i got it all figured out, just expensive. But that's the price you have to pay, otherwise run weak.
S1 polar set (still need 1 piece either gloves, helm or shoulder) +++++As much as i can, s1 or S2 enchants DC, RH, Biskra, Enril
S1 Kush or Kallions. +XX it up. (I have this at +6 at 6/6 w/ s1 hp xeons.
M-C set till later on. +++++ it up and enchant like armor
Alosa or costume will drive the HP quite a bit. Just keep tweaking it as i can.
Ancient run 1 day stat increase reward doesn't hurt either.
Thanks for the help

Just wondering who on Valdes has the biggest tank, most HP :waddle:
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:00 AM

RH set is not that expensive now days and can be reinforced easier than s1 polar (and easily replaced if breaks), and it is 5 part set so shoulders are extra CON, or you can use 2 parts of Glorious/ 4 parts RH, also cheap these days. So this is great until I get my hands on 75 set. As for shield/sword, s2 72 weapons give 22hp while s1 66 give 4CON and s1 kalion gives 5CON on reinforce (s1 weapons might have more starting hp/CON), so here you have some alternative, now days carus can be gathered trough TB, so that is good alternative until you get 75/79. Alosa is great but expensive, could use that 79 torn teddy hp/mp, again carus to reinforce but alosa is alot harder to get and not easier to reinforce. As for accessories I would/will go for Eximus Reinforced earrings +15 at least, DS bracelets (Determined Wilingles) +15 at least too, DC/biskra belt not sure about this, M-C/SL ID Rings +20. Ancient ruins rewards are great and pet lvl 10 gives 10% stats and 10% hp so that is good investment too. Think that should be good enough to get me started on tanking some raids.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:18 AM

Yeah i think i got it all figured out, just expensive. But that's the price you have to pay, otherwise run weak.
S1 polar set (still need 1 piece either gloves, helm or shoulder) +++++As much as i can, s1 or S2 enchants DC, RH, Biskra, Enril
S1 Kush or Kallions. +XX it up. (I have this at +6 at 6/6 w/ s1 hp xeons.
M-C set till later on. +++++ it up and enchant like armor
Alosa or costume will drive the HP quite a bit. Just keep tweaking it as i can.
Ancient run 1 day stat increase reward doesn't hurt either.
Thanks for the help

Just wondering who on Valdes has the biggest tank, most HP :waddle:



S1 swords are neat, but fairly hard to + (% wise). In the long term, I think a Tyrant weapon is still the best choice you will have. After a certain point when +ed, it provides the most HPs possible. Of course, I exclude 79 CON weapons because these are almost imposiible to acquire.

About armour, when you have your 66 Seamless set you will be just fine. The other two pieces you can add from several other sets, depending on what you have already in the 66 set. Ideally, two Conqueror pieces would be great. 79 CON pieces will offer marginally more HPs, but Conqueror also have the benefit of Fire resistance.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 05:55 AM

Yeah i think i got it all figured out, just expensive. But that's the price you have to pay, otherwise run weak.
S1 polar set (still need 1 piece either gloves, helm or shoulder) +++++As much as i can, s1 or S2 enchants DC, RH, Biskra, Enril
S1 Kush or Kallions. +XX it up. (I have this at +6 at 6/6 w/ s1 hp xeons.
M-C set till later on. +++++ it up and enchant like armor
Alosa or costume will drive the HP quite a bit. Just keep tweaking it as i can.
Ancient run 1 day stat increase reward doesn't hurt either.
Thanks for the help

Just wondering who on Valdes has the biggest tank, most HP :waddle:

S1 polar i would try to get it all, not only cos of the hp, the block bonnus too. I also like S1 Essence of Iron earings, they have less HP compared to other earings, but the block also helps. With full S1 polar and both S1 earings youll get a nice extra 10% block % wich help a lot, specially during grind, youll see a lot of 0 and youll barely need healing. If you can try to get ET or tyrant wep and shield, when you pluss them enough youll get a nice boost to hp too.

On who has the most HP on valdes.... I guess Vic or Chronic??
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 06:34 AM

I think most important item for a prot is 75 shield so id do what u can do get that, dont just think hp think block % to. I think everyone said all u need, another idea would be LW mnd/con rings which are better than MC rings, also Trace Of Nach is another suggestion for necklace this also gives u str so would be nice for if u ever wanna try commie.
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Posted 20 August 2011 - 04:51 PM

Thanks, this save me creating another thread :) (Still creating one for my rad)


lol woot

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i believe they up 2 con per step


I was thinking of going with these also but hard to find. I only have one. Does anyone know if the success rate for enforcement for these is much higher than M-C or reinforced counter part?


Should one stick with M-C jewellery for the rest?
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Posted 20 August 2011 - 05:35 PM

Been doing some hunting and there are also rings to use from LW that I'd not seen before..

Assuming unlimited resources, best set for HP would be:
-Carus reinforced magic or phys earrings
-DC necklace
-LW belt
-LW rings
-DS bracelets (but mebbe there's a carus set with 3 CON per + .. cba to look)

If you're on a budget and can't get past +10 carus parts, full M-C set at +15 is probably about the same for HP.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 01:13 AM

Reinforce event finished and i hit 12k hp, that is pretty much what i hoped for with my limited resources

RH +10 full set, and Seamles Polar Shoulders +15 (no enchants, i think i'm gonna go with Ion Mine CON enchants for now, considering this is not set i plan to stick with) (no breaks)

72 shield/sword +10 (hp up 80 buff on shield) (no breaks, no fails)

Reinforced bijou +15 errings 4/7 hp20 xeons (broke 1 and to get these 2)
M-C bracelets +10 5/6 hp20 (broke 2 before geting these 2 to +20, and this is better than Determined Willingness +15)
and rest SL ID +15 4/6 hp20 (could go with more M-C, but as prot you need some MP to and this way you lose only 15 CON in comparison to 4 parts M-C +15, +15 is not that hard, no breaks)
DC Iron Wall belt (broken)

alosa +5 (this was bone before, and as i said this can be replaced with that teddy doll that is much cheaper, and if I'm not wrong gives more hp, no defense tho)

Note: costume/gvg bonus/pet lvl 10 included (pet is great, gives almost 2k HP, would give more if my base was more :))

I know this is not something to brag about, and is not impressive in any way, this is just to show what HP can be reached with some semi-decent gear, and limited resources.
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:54 AM

So far i have the following
S1 Polar upper, lower, boots and now gloves (<3's to shif, uta and rawr)
S1 Kush +12 w/ 6/6 no fail with S1 30 HP xeons. (Exspensive) i use deterion rate -100% and break insurance. Only can go up!
I think my m-c set is going to need replaced. i didn't have the lant or ion to put correct Hp xeons in it.
still tweaking but i know i will get it up there.

Yes Chronic has insane HP, i heard 20k + i am sure he is using his S1 Glorious set. I have to hand it to him for having the set and maxing it out. I envy his build!
I am making tweaks as i can, abusing the Forge event like crazy!
I will take your suggestion and try to see what i can do.
I will also update later not to boast but to help others who are looking to make a Brick house Tank!
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 10:23 PM

I am running with a standard S2 polar set, axe of endless gashes and rounderoot egis shield ALL clean and at +15.

Jewel wise I use +15 Secret lab set with dropped +15 HP enchants in all 6/6 bar 1 :mellow: along with +20 M-C bracelets also with +15 HP enchants 6/6.

Total HP so far at lvl 67 = 6706.

Im looking at increasing my HP also but would only do it to re enchant the gear with better HP enchants.
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Posted 30 August 2011 - 08:26 AM

dropped +15 HP enchants


I would strongly suggest to never use dropped xeons after 65. Try to get the best you can 20 hp ion mine, old S1 30 or 2con/30 hp, RH breathings.... For 65 foc armor 3 con Ion mine can be fine, but later (RH armor or better) try to get raid con xeons also. 5 more HP in each xeon may not seem much, but once it start stalking it makes a huge difference.
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