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[CocaCola]

Terible advice.

First planning stat points. You need to learn your bonuses, particularly STR for sinx's as this is your main damage mod. Sinx's job 66(ill double check that later) is +9 str JOB bonus to your stats. STR gives you bonuses on 10's(i.e 10,20,30 etc etc) TOTALS so...82+8 will give you the same damage as say...82+13 so save your stat points and build your BASE stats around JOB bonuses. So...for a sinx youll want to get base stat in STR ending in a X1 number. IE 91 is generally the best str number to hit unless you own a +X str armor youll always use(do not base builds around gear as they ALWAYS change). So for example...if you want to reach 90 Total str without gears/buffs youll get 81 base str+9(job bonus) to hit 90 THEN you can decide if you want to add in str gears/buffs to reach 110/120(depending on how well you can gear). Now you can research the rest of these bonuses for yourself but you should learn the important ones such as SP regen/Pdodge/heal bonuses etc etc k. Only reason im pointing this out now is cause of someones terrible build suggestion posted above with stats that dont make any sense.
STR 85+9 this gets you 94 str...now you are either wasting 4 points or you gotta get 6 extra str from gears. This gimps your flexibility in gearing yourself down the road.
AGI 81+17 Completly random number seemingly pulled out of the air.
VIT 28+2 IDK why they are using a +2 as a mod as Sinx get a +3 job bonus at job 69 and you want your vit ending a number divisible by 5 for hp regen.
INT 6+5 Dont put points into int unless you are a SD sinx build. Plus SP regen is every 12 points, so...this person is wasting 11 stat points to miss a bonus.
DEX 22+9 again...another random number No real bonuses from reaching certain dex amounts, but every5 points=+1 damage and Sinx reach +10 job bonus at job 70
LUK 37+1 Again another random number. Every 10=1 pdodge(% chance for attacks to miss unreducable) Guessing for extra crit damage...but gears cover crit more than well enough


Since you seem set on doing a pure pvm sinx. You are better off just skipping out on Luk/Vit and getting more dex/str and keeping the agi around the 8-'s. OFC all the stats are up to you, but its silly to miss out on simple damage/attack bonuses cause you are mis using stat points by going over without benefit or barely missing them cause you put to much into another stat.


As far as the katar/dagger arguement. Both builds CAN do the other. Take for instance my sinx, is a pure woe sinx built around carrying a dagger/shield but I still use katars for GT/SBing. Just like a katar sinx can SB/GT then switch to dagger/shield for surviving. The primary difference between Dagger/Katar is agi and vit.Katar users favor more agi, as katars are all about less damage but at a faster rate with crits and faster attack speed. Daggers attack slower but do out dps katars by a large margin if they are using the proper dagger(ie Ice Picks/4 card MG's etc). Hopefully, ive shed some light on how to build characters(So you can plan builds on your own w/o asking people for one on ANY type of character) and that you can be very flexible with how you play your sinx. Although pvp is a completly different matter but I dont think thats important to you atm. If you have any questions feel free to leave a message here, or shoot me a pm.

So now onto your last post about lvling. Try lvling at wolves, idk what weapon you are using but do not bother using a chick hat when using a dagger. The double attack really only pretains to the katar use cause katars do not double attack naturally, where daggers do. So grab a high attack npc weapon or a properly carded dagger and do wolves. start pumping your agi until 50-60 range so you start fleeing everything(saving you zeny) then put points into dex to start hitting. I suggest not getting more than 50dex...usually 40 is enough to hit everything eventually. Dont lvl str until you keep it within a bonus(10's ie 10,20,30 total). Start grabbing merc scrolls for extra damage or party some random person cause 2 people kill faster than 1 and do kill count quests on valk. Just remember sin's are considered the easiest to lvl in game for a reason and youll find out why later on.

[CatMuto]

1. Yeah didn't get a word understood of the first part. Numbers don't really do anything for me ..
2. I don't have money to get myself merc scrolls and other such stuff.
3. I use a Damascus [1] without a card, because I can't find/buy one that sounds good to me.
4. I'm still a Thief - and Wolves are REALLY boring, they barely give me 1% exp ..

I wish they'd hurry up with Renewal so we can get Stat-Resets, I'm not gonna spend money on that if it's coming soon.
And I'm contemplating of switching her to Ymir ..

C-A

[Kadnya]

Coca, I think that you wanted to answer this thread...: http://forums.warppo...sinx-build-plz/ ^^;

But taking a few points from his post anyways:

1.-Level str in multiples of 10, you'll get damage bonuses every multiple of 10 (count both numbers from the stat window, for example 16+4 or 35+5 and so on).

2.-Level dex in multiple of 5 for the same reason.

3.-I could help with a bit of zeny. Plus I love using mercs, so more people using mercs is enough payback for me.

I don't really bite, don't be scared =p. If you still need help, feel free to pm me, I don't mind giving you bit of zeny to start, or maybe a few basic gears or weapon or advice and such. I tried to find you but you fleed to anuther chara and then ignored me ^^;...

Edited by Kadnya, 21 September 2010 - 05:59 AM.

[CocaCola]

No...it wasnt me that was posting that. My friend mis logged on that lol. Its still a good post though and OP should read and try to understand it if they actually wanna get better though.

[CatMuto]

I don't really bite, don't be scared =p. If you still need help, feel free to pm me, I don't mind giving you bit of zeny to start, or maybe a few basic gears or weapon or advice and such. I tried to find you but you fleed to anuther chara and then ignored me ^^;...

Ach, dat was u! ignore my talk, I'm watching abridged stuff
I was wondering .. I also got disconnected as my merc, due to my internet getting it's period at random times! Well, I'm sorta happy with my Thief's equipment right now. Only thing I miss is the Bongun Hat (thought that's more for decoration purposes) and cards.
But I'm focusing more and more on my Archer right now - the one to turn into a Dancer .. damn stat-resetting for renewal, hurry up!

C-A

Edited by CatMuto, 21 September 2010 - 10:37 AM.

[Hardyson]

i shall really point you out that when ur leveling as thief, DO NOT EQUIP SHIELD... it slowed ur ASPD down, only a dagger on right hand and left hand empty..
and while ur still in thief there no need to boost VIT up, it's a bit too early... focus on AGI raising ASPD and Flee/Extra Flee.

the point is Hit Faster, Hit Harder so the Monster Die Faster, and u don't have to get Hit Often.

[CatMuto]

Okay, Renewal hit and I finally can log-in again (continuously changing your password will end up working at some point)

Anyway, I went to the Mesmerist and re-located my Stats and have them now set to this:

STR - 31
AGI - 53
VIT - 5
DEX - 22

I have reached level 42 with her, can't really say I'm hitting faster than before.
I do notice that when trying to kill Steel Choncon (I can't really find much of a good training place - if I remember correctly the best is +10 your current level?) I miss a lot .. do I need to focus on DEX now?

C-A

[DrAzzy]

Yeah, you need more dex now than you used to.

[CatMuto]

Yeah .. well, she's 45/37 right now and my maingoal is, frankly, to get my Joblevel to 40 ASAP and to finally change!

I think her DEX is getting close to 30 now, AGI is 57 or so ..
And her Equipment changed to EDEN Hat (with +2 AGI), EDEN Mantle, EDEN Uniform III, EDEN Weapon II (or III?) and EDEN Boots III .. is that good equipment? I checked the descriptions and they look pretty good. Increased HP, SP, and/or regeneration, etc ..

What monsters should I hunt to get my Joblevel up?
I'm currently in Payon Dungeon Level 3, killing Bonguns and Munaks and some Skeleton Monsters - they give nice EXP and help me to get a Bongun Hat/Pet (how's the chance of success when trying to catch pets?) - and I'm not having too much trouble .. unless I get suddenly cornered!!

C-A