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#1 meli

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 04:50 PM

Maybe then everyone will be happy!







...Seriously though, lately it's only whining about nerfs and/or crying for other classes to get nerfed.

Every class has a highlight, some are able to level more efficiently, some have exceptional disabling skills, some are better boss killers and very little classes can do all. You can't excell at everything or do it and not expect a nerf, and if you can't adapt then quit the class and play something else. Stop being spoiled by one shot skills and trying desperately to have a perfect class, they were never supposed to exist, they're supposed to complement each other with their specialties.






TLDR; adapt to the changes or quit!
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#2 Psychogenik

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 05:11 PM

At least someone gets it.
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 05:13 PM

So who wants to play dead outside Prontera while we see Biolab monsters walking around and killing everyone else?
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 05:17 PM

No no no, Play Dead needs to be nerfed Posted Image

EDIT: oh yeah I forgot about first aid too, yeah no that needs a cast bar or a cool down too!

Edited by Inubashiri, 11 August 2011 - 05:18 PM.

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#5 Kadnya

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 05:18 PM

So who wants to play dead outside Prontera while we see Biolab monsters walking around and killing everyone else?


But then everyone else is third class and DB monsters don't last more than two seconds now... :smooch:
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#6 Mischelle

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 06:08 PM

TLDR; adapt to the changes or quit!


Thousands already have.
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 07:22 PM

PvP balance isn't *too* bad. The cursed circle + autokill thing is ridiculous, and gens are a bit nuts, but most of the rest are ok. (Yeah, RG's are nuts too, but that's because that one skill is glitched, and will get fixed.) Casters all need to be buffed, but not massively.

PvM balance, on the other hand, is pretty terrible. A huge chunk of the classes are basically deadweight in parties, and if you're primarily a PvM player, that greatly limits your character options.

IMO, party play is where the most balancing effort is needed.

You can never get it perfect of course, but the party balance shouldn't be *this* bad.
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 07:32 PM

NO, NOVICES ARE OP. HELLO, PLAY DEAD?! GOD!


I'm just kidding if you couldn't tell.

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:44 PM

NO, NOVICES ARE OP. HELLO, PLAY DEAD?! GOD!


I'm just kidding if you couldn't tell.


PLAY DEAD OP? NO PROBLEM!!! BUY TONS OF DEAD BRANCHES, SUMMON A NECRO AND THEY WILL **** BRICKS!!!

Edited by Volt88, 11 August 2011 - 08:45 PM.

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#10 Mwrip

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:52 PM

Sadly, I remember when Play Dead novice WoE recon actually *was* a fairly common complaint on the forums. I wish I was kidding.

Apparently the kRO players complained too, as they made Voke purge Play Dead.
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#11 Inubashiri

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:55 PM

Sadly, I remember when Play Dead novice WoE recon actually *was* a fairly common complaint on the forums. I wish I was kidding.

Apparently the kRO players complained too, as they made Voke purge Play Dead.


voking or mind breaking them was hilarious as they would pop up for a nanosec to a pre-cast only to be sent to oblivion.
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#12 CeruleanGamer

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 09:36 PM

So any guilds out there with super novices who plan on WoEing? I wanna join you guys. <3
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:27 AM

actually a woe of novices would be awesome and funny, pretty sure one my guildies would be using ice cream hat, stapo card and frill card on woe :smooch:

Don't ask how I know that stuff XD
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:28 AM

A novice/supernovice only BG/PVP tourney would be pretty fun...
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:31 AM

Isn't that the goal of renewal? Make everybody do the same damage and all?

Not a bad idea, actually. And if we were able to keep them level 10 or less, we wouldn't have to worry about certain people being OP.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:32 AM

Maybe then everyone will be happy!







...Seriously though, lately it's only whining about nerfs and/or crying for other classes to get nerfed.

Every class has a highlight, some are able to level more efficiently, some have exceptional disabling skills, some are better boss killers and very little classes can do all. You can't excell at everything or do it and not expect a nerf, and if you can't adapt then quit the class and play something else. Stop being spoiled by one shot skills and trying desperately to have a perfect class, they were never supposed to exist, they're supposed to complement each other with their specialties.






TLDR; adapt to the changes or quit!


You sit in prontera and talk. Stay in your part of the game, and we will stay in our WoE and pvp aspects.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:39 AM

voking or mind breaking them was hilarious as they would pop up for a nanosec to a pre-cast only to be sent to oblivion.

I just did that last 2.0 when some Novice came into our Precast and I decided to Dispell him. xD
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#18 Inubashiri

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 10:39 AM

Ah never thought of dispell
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 12:52 PM

You know, it's funny in hindsight, but literally hours after Play Dead was released, in the Glast Heim cross in Churchyard, we had novices mob training and playing dead to kill the acos and priests there... Not even a day after. /swt
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 02:01 PM

I just did that last 2.0 when some Novice came into our Precast and I decided to Dispell him. xD


Was it Name "Kamikazee"
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 02:15 PM

Was it Name "Kamikazee"

Now that I think about it, I do think it was named that.
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Posted 13 August 2011 - 02:32 PM

A novice/supernovice only BG/PVP tourney would be pretty fun...



Actually we did in my guild a lil mini-tournament pre-renewal... XD a lot of rules to work to avoid unfair and have everyone chance to do a novice

(and pretty much stapo card was OP)
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