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[Mefistofeles]

This is a Proposal for future feedback about new items for IRO.

I have been reading complains about how anoying its to get the materials to use some skills: The Poison bottles, the Runes, The summons, Genetic stuff etc.

MY PROPOSAL TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM!(if you dont like it, post other Suggestion
PLS)

Making an accesory that allows the chance to get the proper materials for those jobs!

Like the medal of honor made for each class, this gear could drop the proper materials for each class

Krieger von midgard granted wish

This amazing gear has been approved by Krieger von midgard. Only the highest quality warriors are allowed to possess a monster's abilities. Instead of letting it go to waste, the Midgar Research Staff has offered it as a supplie help.
This is a reward from Battle Grounds by exchanging 1 medal of honor or 500 brave/valor badges

Main ACCOUNT BOUND/CHARACTER BOUND what gms think its better
Type Gear
Subtype Headgear
Weight 0
Required Level 100
Upgradable Yes(XD i wish)
Damagable Yes
Stats
Def 40
MDef -5

Head Position
Top
Middle X
Bottom



Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (RUNE KNIGHT CLASS)

Turisus Rune Stone 1 Blue Hair, 1 Claw of Desert Wolf
Isia Rune Stone 1 Burning Heart
Pertz Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Tangled Chains, 1 Dragon Canine
Hagalas Rune Stone 1 Round Shell, 1 Dragon Skin
Aesir Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Ogre Tooth
Urj Rune Stone 1 Horrendous Hair, 1 Honey
Rhydo Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Red Gemstone
Noseige Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Destroyed Armor, Worn-out Magic Scroll
Verkana Rune Stone 1 Armor Piece of Dullahan
The Branchs too

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (THIEF CLASS)


Poison Starter Kit
Karvodailnirol
Berserk Potion
And those low drop rate items.
And those paint brush things for shadow chaser.

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (GENETIC)


(INSERT SUGGESTIONS PLS)
i think that prickly fruits and karvos too

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (SORCERER)


Rough Wind(the only one i care XP)
Flame heart
Mystic Frozen
Great Nature
And Gem stones(yellow and red)

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (ARCHER CLASS)

Steel Arrow quivers/special traps box
Inferno Quiver:
Contains 500 Inferno Arrows
Also a whole new set of arrow quivers
Tsunami Quiver:
Contains 500 Tsunami Arrows
(etc)
Inferno Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against earth monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause burning status.
Fire element
Tsunami Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against fire monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause freezing status.
Water element
(etc)
Divine Quiver:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against undead or shadow element monsters by 10%. Has a 1% chance to autocast turn undead level 3.
Holy element
Bradium Arrows
ATK: 100
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against all monsters by 5%.
Neutral Element

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (ARCH BISHOP)

Hp potions or gems


And gives a lower chance than previus items to get: Blue/white pots
And gives a higher chance than previus items to get: Fly wings/butterfly/flywings/

Edited by Mefistofeles, 29 September 2011 - 01:27 PM.

[HRdevil]

Make it an accesory

[Mefistofeles]

Make it an accesory

i though that middle head gear, becouse they are not middle headgears with this kind of effect,(like glasses) but thanks for the suggestion XD

[TheSquishy]

Usually i think you are kinda ....special but,

This is actually a really good idea especially since some glasses already have skills (smith-ore discovery)and
equip combos (alchie)that drop stuff they need.

[asayuu]

For archer classes... STEEL ARROW QUIVERS!

Or even Elven/Hunter arrow quivers after 14.1.

And now I am thinking about a mechanic gear, dropping fuel against each monster. /rice

The point is. Every class should be able to use this, even if for some, the effect can be stupid, because the class don't require any special item. [For those classes, blue potions may be the best deal ;D ]

[TheSquishy]

For archer classes... STEEL ARROW QUIVERS!

Nuuuu...I make a huge amount of Zeny on steel arrows.

[Carp]

say hi to botters.

[HRdevil]

say hi to botters.

Cheaper supplies for everyone then. Aren't they doing it already but at a much higher price?

[Mefistofeles]

say hi to botters.

no,its an item of battle grounds, and need a level req. i put 100, but i think should be 125+ this is a proposal to solve some bot problems

[Kadelia]

For archer classes... STEEL ARROW QUIVERS!

I think it'd be cooler if it dropped something new like... chance to drop inferno quiver, tsunami quiver, hardrock quiver, lightning quiver, divine quiver, or vile quiver.

Inferno Quiver:
Contains 500 Inferno Arrows
Tsunami Quiver:
Contains 500 Tsunami Arrows
(etc)

Inferno Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against earth monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause burning status.
Fire element

Tsunami Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against fire monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause freezing status.
Water element

(etc)

Divine Quiver:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against undead or shadow element monsters by 10%. Has a 1% chance to autocast turn undead level 3.
Holy element

(You get the idea)

These would make elemental arrows in a non-endowed bow, or anything other than orc archer/elven bow useful.

[Kadnya]

I don't like the idea of giving different class different drops. While some classes get really nice drops (like rune knight), other classes get not so nice items (or like bishops, chasers, etc, don't get anything...)

Instead of making the drop class based, they could be different equips usable by any class, so we could farm whatever item we need in whatever chara we would like to kill with.

[Mefistofeles]

I don't like the idea of giving different class different drops. While some classes get really nice drops (like rune knight), other classes get not so nice items (or like bishops, chasers, etc, don't get anything...)

Instead of making the drop class based, they could be different equips usable by any class, so we could farm whatever item we need in whatever chara we would like to kill with.

always account bound to prevent a SUPER abuse, i dont know what an arch bishop needs at all, post it pls, the shadow chaser brush things are in the post, if you can post the specific items, pls post then, i dont see how a light granule can help an arch bishop XD thats why its especific, its and "hunt it by yourself"

[cRoc]

i would make it Character bound

[Kadnya]

always account bound to prevent a SUPER abuse, i dont know what an arch bishop needs at all, post it pls, the shadow chaser brush things are in the post, if you can post the specific items, pls post then, i dont see how a light granule can help an arch bishop XD thats why its especific, its and "hunt it by yourself"

Light granule could help a bishop by selling the item, just like you could hunt with a rune knight and sell the items too xP. I understand the hunt it yourself idea, but I would like to be able to hunt, for example, light granules on my archbishop to use on my rune knight, or hunt items on a mech given how easier is just use greed, or kill with chaser and supply other charas. Or just hunt items to sell.

The item archbishop accessory drops could be large Hp potions or gems, maybe...

[asayuu]

New arrows would be pretty nice...

Arrows with the same attack as the actual Steels, and with elements. Or arrows with attack way better than actual steels, but without a set to boost the damage.

Now I think something like

Bradium Arrows
ATK: 100
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against all monsters by 5%.
Neutral Element

I don't think 100 ATK arrows would unbalance something. If each quiver dropped with ~=1% rate, I don't think it would be much of a problem.

The item archbishop accessory drops could be large Hp potions or gems, maybe...

Well, a craftable item... It would not be a good idea. Ancillas maybe? [aka 15% sp healing to break the limit]

Or Panaceas, or Royal Jellies.

Edit: Teh ideas of arrows, and a little writing about each one:

Spoiler

Inferno Arrow
An arrow crafted from volcanic rocks. Don't touch the tip, or else you will burn your hand.
ATK: 50
Weight: 0.1
Increase Ranged Damage against Earth monsters by 10%. Adds a 5% chance to deal the Burning status on a target.
Fire Element

Glacier Arrow
An arrow crafted from pure ice magic. You can feel how cold is the air just by holding the arrow.
ATK: 50
Weight: 0.1
Increase Ranged Damage against Fire monsters by 10%. Adds a 5% chance to deal the Freezing status on a target.
Water Element

Fairy Arrow
An arrow crafted from fairies' wings. The dust of these wings has a immobilizing powder.
ATK: 50
Weight: 0.1
Increase Ranged Damage against Water monsters by 10%. Adds a 1% chance to deal the Lock status on a target. [This "Lock" is the same lock the Scarab1 monsters can deal, also able to be used by Song of Despair]
Wind Element

Nature Arrow
An arrow crafted from spiders' web. Watch out when touching those arrows, or else your hands can be sticky.
ATK: 50
Weight: 0.1
Increase Ranged Damage against Wind monsters by 10%. Adds a 1% chance to deal the Fiber Lock status on a target.
Earth Element

Slippery Arrow
An arrow crafted with heavy oil. 
ATK: 10
Weight: 0.1
Adds a chance of 10% of dealing the "Forced Sit" status on a target. [Stun + Confusion on monsters]
Neutral Element

Edited by asayuu, 29 September 2011 - 01:25 PM.

[Charon]

Theyd have to request it from kro, who would never get around making it, let alone it ever get to us.
HOWEVER.
Ive got a suggestion that addresses the problem, which would not require contacting kro, as iro can make quests themselves.

Spoiler

There's plenty of classes that need specific items to make use of some skills.
So they spend time farming them or buy them from bots that farm them faster anyway.
Some of these items have really low drop rates or even a low number of mob spawns.

The examples that come to mind are Karvo, Rune stuff and geneticist items like Detonator and Gun Powder...

How about if there was daily repeatable quests that would enable players to buy a bunch of the items they need?

Ill make an example for Karvo.
A SinX is able to do a quest starting in the Assassin guild blah blah. When he's done, he could talk to an NPC that came to pron from the Assassin guild, to do some short simple task (talk to another npc, or kill a monster, or answer a random EDP related question or something..) and then get the choice of buying say 5 Karvo for 100k in NPC dialog (non discountable like Speed pots and alch books)

Of course, every item would need proper consideration as to how many can safely be handed out by such quests daily without making some skill that's not supposed to be spammed a hundred times the norm of its class etc.

Spoiler

Hows this:

- Karvo - 5 - 20k each - SinX only - initial quest in sin guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Venom Canine/Bee Sting/Cactus Needle/Poison Spore - 10/10/10/10 - 500z/500z/250z/250z - SinX only - initial quest in sin guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Red Gemstone - 20 - 500z each - Sin only - initial quest in sin guild, then NPC in pron for daily

- Tendon/Detonator - 30/30 - 2k each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only - initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Heart of Mermaid/Zenorc Fang/Immortal Heart/Fabric - 20/20/20 - 500z each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Stem/Poison Spore - 100/100 - 250z each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Red/Yellow/White - 60/60/60 - 250z/375z/500z each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Cactus Needle/Mole Whiskers - 30/30 - 250z/375z each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Witched Starsand - 50 - 2500z each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Blue Herb - 60 - 1k each - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only - initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Heart of Mermaid/Moth Dust/Large Jellopy/Frill - 30/30/20/20 - 500z/200z/375z/500z - Alchemist(Prepare potion 10) only -initial quest in alch guild, then NPC in pron for daily

- Iron/Coal - 100/20 - 500z/1000z - Blacksmith(Iron Tempering 5) only - initial quest in einbroch, then NPC in pron for daily
- Steel - 20 - 4000z - Blacksmith(Steel Tempering 5) only - initial quest in einbroch, then NPC in pron for daily

- Detonator/Gun Powder - 25/50 - 2k each - Geneticist (Bomb Creation 2) only - initial quest in alde, then NPC in pron for daily
- Pineapple/Coconut/Melon - 10/10/10 - 1500z each - Geneticist (Bomb Creation 2) only - initial quest in comodo, then NPC in pron for daily
- Sticky Mucus/Mould Powder/Cactus Needle - 10/10/10 - 250z each - Geneticist (Bomb Creation 2) only - initial quest in morroc, then NPC in pron for daily
- Royal Jelly/Honey - 10/20 - 3k/1k - Geneticist (Special Pharmacy 10) only - initial quest in morroc, then NPC in pron for daily
- Blue Herb/Grape - 20/30 - 1K/750z - Geneticist (Special Pharmacy 10) only - initial quest in morroc, then NPC in pron for daily
- Mushroom Spore/Poison Spore/Gun Powder - 80/40/16 - 250z/250z/2k - Geneticist (Special Pharmacy 10) only - initial quest in morroc, then NPC in pron for daily
- Maneater Root/Prickly Fruit - 5/5 - 500z/35k - Geneticist (Special Pharmacy 10&) only - initial quest in morroc, then NPC in pron for daily

- Crystal Arrow Quiver - 2 - 5k each - Archer (Arrow Crafting) only - initial quest in Archer guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Wind Arrow Quiver - 2 - 5k each - Archer (Arrow Crafting) only - initial quest in Archer guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Stone Arrow Quiver - 2 - 5k each - Archer (Arrow Crafting) only - initial quest in Archer guild, then NPC in pron for daily
- Steel Arrow Quiver - 2 - 5k each - Archer (Arrow Crafting) only - initial quest in Archer guild, then NPC in pron for daily

- Elder Branch - 5 - 20k each - RK (Rune Mastery 10) only - initial quest god knows where, then NPC in pron daily
- Blue Hair/Claw of Desert Wolf/Burning Heart/Tangled Chains/Dragon Canine/Round Shell/Dragon Skin/Ogre Tooth/Horrendeus Hair/Honey/Worn-Out Magic Scroll/Destroyed Armor/Armor piece of Dullahan/Red Gemstone - 3 of each - 75k whole set - RK (Rune Mastery 10) only - initial quest god knows where, then NPC in pron daily
- Light Granule - 3 - 2k each - RK (Rune Mastery 10) only - initial quest god knows where, then NPC in pron daily

- Green/White/Blue Herb - 10/5/5 - 200z/500z/1k each - GX (New Poison Creation 10) only - initial quest in Veins, then NPC in pron for daily
- Poison Toad Skin/Anoliian Skin/Decayed Nail/Sticky Poison/Poison Spore/Heart of Mermaid - 20/20/25/20/10/10 - 1k/500z/175z/500z/250z/500z (~52k the whole set) - GX (New Poison Creation 10) only - initial quest in Veins, then NPC in pron for daily
- Amoena/Rantana/Seratum - 1 each - 5k each - GX (New Poison Creation 10) only - initial quest in Veins, then NPC in pron for daily
- Nerium/Makulata/Izidor - 2 each - 5k each - GX (New Poison Creation 10) only - initial quest in Veins, then NPC in pron for daily


Was just thinking about where the daily NPCs could be located. First thought pron would be the best, but actually, theres plenty room in Eden group! O:

Also, monsters should drop quivers instead of single stupid arrows no ones gonna collect one by one.

Edited by Charon, 29 September 2011 - 01:31 PM.

[Mefistofeles]

keep suggesting guys maybe any gm can look this as a good idea!!!!

[asayuu]

And now I checked something...

For the rune materials... I don't think ALL the materials should drop. Only the hardest.

Tangled Chains / Dragon Things / Horrendous Hair / Armor Pieces of Dullahan are too damn easy to get. Just go to the right map.

But let this way.

And for new arrows, I hope they are craftable.

[iiNote]

This is a Proposal for future feedback about new items for IRO.

I have been reading complains about how anoying its to get the materials to use some skills: The Poison bottles, the Runes, The summons, Genetic stuff etc.

MY PROPOSAL TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM!(if you dont like it, post other Suggestion
PLS)

Making an accesory that allows the chance to get the proper materials for those jobs!

Like the medal of honor made for each class, this gear could drop the proper materials for each class

Krieger von midgard granted wish

This amazing gear has been approved by Krieger von midgard. Only the highest quality warriors are allowed to possess a monster's abilities. Instead of letting it go to waste, the Midgar Research Staff has offered it as a supplie help.
This is a reward from Battle Grounds by exchanging 1 medal of honor or 500 brave/valor badges

Main ACCOUNT BOUND/CHARACTER BOUND what gms think its better
Type Gear
Subtype Headgear
Weight 0
Required Level 100
Upgradable Yes(XD i wish)
Damagable Yes
Stats
Def 40
MDef -5

Head Position
Top
Middle X
Bottom



Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (RUNE KNIGHT CLASS)

Turisus Rune Stone 1 Blue Hair, 1 Claw of Desert Wolf
Isia Rune Stone 1 Burning Heart
Pertz Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Tangled Chains, 1 Dragon Canine
Hagalas Rune Stone 1 Round Shell, 1 Dragon Skin
Aesir Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Ogre Tooth
Urj Rune Stone 1 Horrendous Hair, 1 Honey
Rhydo Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Red Gemstone
Noseige Rune Stone 1 Light Granule, 1 Destroyed Armor, Worn-out Magic Scroll
Verkana Rune Stone 1 Armor Piece of Dullahan
The Branchs too

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (THIEF CLASS)


Poison Starter Kit
Karvodailnirol
Berserk Potion
And those low drop rate items.
And those paint brush things for shadow chaser.

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (GENETIC)


(INSERT SUGGESTIONS PLS)
i think that prickly fruits and karvos too

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (SORCERER)


Rough Wind(the only one i care XP)
Flame heart
Mystic Frozen
Great Nature
And Gem stones(yellow and red)

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (ARCHER CLASS)

Steel Arrow quivers/special traps box
Inferno Quiver:
Contains 500 Inferno Arrows
Also a whole new set of arrow quivers
Tsunami Quiver:
Contains 500 Tsunami Arrows
(etc)
Inferno Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against earth monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause burning status.
Fire element
Tsunami Arrow:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against fire monsters by 20%. Has a 1% chance to cause freezing status.
Water element
(etc)
Divine Quiver:
ATK: 30
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against undead or shadow element monsters by 10%. Has a 1% chance to autocast turn undead level 3.
Holy element
Bradium Arrows
ATK: 100
Weight: 0.1
Increase Range Damage against all monsters by 5%.
Neutral Element

Adds a chace to get the next items by killing a monster (ARCH BISHOP)

Hp potions or gems


And gives a lower chance than previus items to get: Blue/white pots
And gives a higher chance than previus items to get: Fly wings/butterfly/flywings/

I kinda like this idea o.o
but the drop chance can't be too high... maybe like... 1%... or 0.10%...

[sayoko]

this proposal its just awesome.... the guy made it had dreams and a big hope on Iro......

[GuardianTK]

I kinda like this idea o.o
but the drop chance can't be too high... maybe like... 1%... or 0.10%...

Why necro? More importantly, why are you quoting the first long post?

[shurareki]

what ever happened too Mefistofeles

[dragonmaster731]

Why doesn't it drop an item that can be traded in for those items? (like spare card drop blank) guild treasure drop tokens to turn in for supplies I think...

That way it'll help everyone pick whatever they need/want. Also this let the GM have certain control on the prices these items.

[Shippoh]

Great Idea

[sayoko]

what ever happened too Mefistofeles

got baned and quit