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#1 exilehunter

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:04 AM

Yes its still a bit early to know how the changes feel but we can already see major changes in play style.

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Bloody Arrow - cooldown to 8 sec. any1 think we still need this at max?
VT - slower CD but we prolly still use a point for extra hp if possible.
Shadow bind - still good to put a few spares points.
Rake Nail - longer Cd to 15 but at lvl 10 it has 6m aoe and 6 targets. how many people crowd around in a 6m radius? hmmmmmmmm....... (see defi skill)
Curse Magic Mastery - slight nerf. still a staple.

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Bloodmoon - 4m-20m range and 23.5 CD. 6m radius effect and 6 targets at max. looks like new rake nail. 3rd instant cast nuke. :/ might prefer over rake nail.
Bloody Spear - ppl dont stay in a straight line. probably still useless as ever.
AoR - Exactly the same at lvl 10 as old. and still has dna at same.
Deadly Bomb - major boost to dmg and dna. i think this skill is now fun to use if you can do 2324 to 10 targets in 15m radius when fully maxed. but theres a 15 sec delay in explosion i think. noobs will help us by dragging bomb to crowds but perhaps this can get debuffed by rad or mystic? (lol. they just became bomb squad)
Curse of Restoration - still a filler. improved but still garbage.
Fury - meh.
Binding Soul - more Cd but generally better than before. i think lvl 5 with 80% success and 3 sec stun is good.
BLOOD STORM - our baby is almost exactly the same at lvl 10 as our current lvl 7. 3 more points to play like before :/
BLOOD STORM DNA - bastards.probably still pump in max dna
Curse Effect - meh. lvl 10 like our lvl 7. idk if we have enough points to indulge in this.
DEADLY FOG - Our Other baby is nerfed like Bloody Storm. Probably still max. same with DNA (at least we should get more DNA soon).
Terms of Service - nerfed but not really worth discussing.
Deadly Disease - im curious to know if this is a new skill tree branch or part of an old one. lowers max HP. good for low lvl defilers but idk if its worth it since it isnt a range cast. looks like immediate 10m range attack.


How many skill points more do we get from 79 to 85?


(just realised i called this KRUXENA thread but i wanted defiler specific. aw well watevr)

Edited by exilehunter, 07 October 2011 - 03:06 AM.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:29 PM

Lvl 80 gives 3 skill points.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:55 PM

is that all we know? hmm...
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:59 PM

Im curious about Deadly Bomb
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Posted 08 October 2011 - 10:42 AM

Idk if anyone gonna take our new OP skill... Dedaly bomb looks funny... have to test everything after update. Btw i heard rumors about Terms of Service 2.5 sec casting - only rumors?
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Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:43 PM

deadly bomb looks interesting but is basically the same as b4. unless max dna it's useless. and if you max the dna, even with the 50 total dna, because of the dna/skill changes you won't have enought dna or skil points for more important stuff.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 12:14 AM

mhm. im pretty sure we cant max all our core aoe skills any more without sacrificing some from our faster skills.
i actually think we have more than enough DNA pts now so choosing wat DNA we want 1st and then basing other skills around it might be better.
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i think we get 8 more pts from 79 to 85.

BS, DF, Terms of Service alrdy requires 9 more to max. if we take Binding soul to lvl 5 instead of lvl 7 (since they rebalanced it in our favour) we can get 1 spare but obviously if we want Deadly bomb then something must be sacrificed. :/ do we want to keep our instant cast SH moves or have slow power based defiler moves? hard to say which is better for pvp.

Edited by exilehunter, 09 October 2011 - 12:36 AM.

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:23 AM

well let's see.

you want aoe durations maxed coz it's been nerfed so you'll put 9 in each, 5 let's say in VT swift, 6 in VT aoe. and considering the new cd 10 points in VT cd dna - that's 39-44 dna points. for pvp you want AoR range dna level 3. this brings you to a total of 42 skill points. if you want instant cast VT it's 47 total DNA points. which leaves you with basically 3-8 "free" DNA points to spend somewhere. Let's say you will want at least 1 point in str AoR aswell.

as far as SP goes I believe it's 3 points on lvl 80 + 1 for each next lvl - so 8 skill points more - 6 of those are spent on Terms of Service, DS and BF which leaves you with 2 skill points. If you check mine or leash's build you'll see we have 6 points in inv. If we remove those it's again a total of 8 free SP. rake nail max is still a must, not sure about bloody arrow, as in not sure if AoC will be worth having more than one skill point in it. Technically if I lose CE/leash loses SB, we'd have nuff points to max DB, but again, no DNA for it considering the essentials. Rather put points in binding soul or blood moon.

god I love theorycrafting jajaja
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:30 AM

And you don't even play the game anymore. -_-
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 02:09 AM

And you don't even play the game anymore. -_-


ikr :D

theorycrafting makes more sense here than in aion. aion depends mostly on rng sadly.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 03:18 AM

just for stat, with Bloddy arrow cooldown 8 sec, how we suppose to survive? I can't
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 03:38 AM

just for stat, with Bloddy arrow cooldown 8 sec, how we suppose to survive? I can't


use attack of the curse nab its the new nuke just needs new visual effect XD
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 05:29 AM

its not a nuke, its physical. im no expert thow
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 05:41 AM

its not a nuke, its physical. im no expert thow


its not physical. they changed it to curse. meby i havent check it lol bud in updatet they say it.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:11 AM

So... is it time to max attack of curse instead of arrows? The 8s cooldown is killing me o.o
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:12 AM

So... is it time to max attack of curse instead of arrows? The 8s cooldown is killing me o.o


max or lvl 1 its up to you so yea its new nuke as far as i remember o.o
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:56 PM

max or lvl 1 its up to you so yea its new nuke as far as i remember o.o

Hmm.. so what is the recommended build for these two skills? I'm planning to go defiler...
max attack of curse and max bloody arrow ..? Or, max attack of curse and lvl 1 bloody arrow?
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:13 PM

Hmm.. so what is the recommended build for these two skills? I'm planning to go defiler...
max attack of curse and max bloody arrow ..? Or, max attack of curse and lvl 1 bloody arrow?

I would say just keep them at level 1...Not really worth skills to level up imo...
Since we now have 4 instant cast skills and all our AoE skills
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:43 PM

I would say just keep them at level 1...Not really worth skills to level up imo...
Since we now have 4 instant cast skills and all our AoE skills


mhm. the damage difference between lvl 1 and max is small and not worth spending pts on either. in fact, you can probably get away with never using bloody arrow.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:59 AM

mhm. the damage difference between lvl 1 and max is small and not worth spending pts on either. in fact, you can probably get away with never using bloody arrow.

ahh... ok. A new level 1-49 soul hunter(defiler) build perhaps? I'm abit lost on which to max now, after the update.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:53 PM

ahh... ok. A new level 1-49 soul hunter(defiler) build perhaps? I'm abit lost on which to max now, after the update.


try http://forums.warppo...temple-of-rape/ if u cant find it in leash defiled temple well then ask again <_<
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