defiler's build
#1
Posted 12 October 2011 - 01:30 AM
#2
Posted 12 October 2011 - 01:41 AM
#3
Posted 12 October 2011 - 02:49 AM
I'm unsure if I should skip Attack of Curse for Bloody Arrow, if the damage of Attack of Curse is still only +31 at lvl 10 I might go for Bloody Arrow instead.
Then again the skill's base damage doesnt have the major impact on for how much you will hit in the end, but 31 sounds so low - I would like to test this later on first. atm I would rather live with BA's longer CD.
Due to Blood Moon now finally being usefull, I guess I have to say goodbye to Invisibility.
The rest pretty much stays the same, unless that now 5 Points in Binding Soul have to be enough, since the stun duration wont get any higher.
About the new skill, I could care less to remove 809 of the Max HP of my opponents, thats done by one Hit.
And yes I'm not a big fan of Curse Effect, I tried, I'm just not into it at all. The range is kind of -_-ty to me and you have to be super close.
And yea I might try Deadly Bomb for the lulz, but it only hits once. One time 2k+ damage is nice, but you can do more damage by Nukes in that time.
DNAwise I'm currently using the full survivability DNA type from my guide. (I change it quite often tho)
I love to be able to cast VT running, so I'd go 10 Points in the Casttime DNA.
Since they up the CD (27 Seconds now) you would have to invest 10 DNA Points to get it to a 10 seconds CD (used to need only 5 DNA) - but since you also want to have some points in VT AoE DNA I'd go 9 in the DNA to lower its CD and 6 into the VT AOE DNA. So 11 seconds CD.
...the more I think about this I might give a-_- about VT at all, why bother with a -_-ty heal that has such a long CD, fails alot, needs a target and eats allmost all of your DNA to be somewhat usefull - and now even has increased CD.
Lets wait for DNA increase $$
edit. oh you wanted a PVE only build huh?:
Well its not that different, get 10 points in Invisibility, get 1 Point in Attack of Curse to lure mobs, get 1 Point into BA as a Filler for Rake Nail.
Also for PVE only you most likely wont need Shadow Binding/Shape of Fear or Binding Soul - but what else to spend points on really.
Edited by Leash, 12 October 2011 - 02:52 AM.
#4
Posted 12 October 2011 - 03:08 AM
#5
Posted 12 October 2011 - 03:20 AM
if you want deadly bomb i think robbing points from bloody arrow and pumping it there would work. just let bloody arrow become filler for rake nail as AoC will now be used to put out SCAD dmg. curse effect use to be ok but now its just too costly. its useful when you melee stun people and thats abt it (aoes will do the rest).
longer aoes from dna? its shorter now since they nerfed dna as well.
Edited by exilehunter, 12 October 2011 - 03:21 AM.
#6
Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:47 AM
#7
Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:55 AM
#8
Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:57 AM
#9
Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:01 AM
oh and can u plz put the link for that skill calculator
Edited by CybeLove, 12 October 2011 - 08:04 AM.
#11
Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:56 AM
No i just tried it again, with all dna and stuff I did one hit of 2,324 (wouldnt show in the damage log, but i saw the damage number on the enemy).hmm leash if im right bomb should hit 7 times now (Deadly Bomb duration 15 sec )
oh and can u plz put the link for that skill calculator
I guess its kind of kewl if the person you put the bomb on runs back to a crowd and it explodes then to damage other targets if you are lucky.
But it really only hits once, after 15 seconds.
#12
Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:59 AM
lolNo i just tried it again, with all dna and stuff I did one hit of 2,324 (wouldnt show in the damage log, but i saw the damage number on the enemy).
I guess its kind of kewl if the person you put the bomb on runs back to a crowd and it explodes then to damage other targets if you are lucky.
But it really only hits once, after 15 seconds.
#13
Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:09 AM
used a ordinary lvl 65 wand to not have my curse resist down enchant proc.
As you see the difference isnt that big, so you can leave Attack of Curse and even Bloody Arrow at 1 if you like imo. I will work on updating my guide nao.
#14
Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:27 AM
OMFG!! Deadly bomb is affected by stats but not resistances!!!
My mystake, i had 1 dna lost i didnt saw, sowy XP
Edited by Dess, 12 October 2011 - 10:59 AM.
#16
Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:57 PM
I did some more testing on the difference between Bloody Arrow Lvl 1 / 10 compared to Attack of Curse Lvl 1 / 10:
used a ordinary lvl 65 wand to not have my curse resist down enchant proc.
As you see the difference isnt that big, so you can leave Attack of Curse and even Bloody Arrow at 1 if you like imo. I will work on updating my guide nao.
mm thought this would happen. scad build people couldnt care less abt plugging pts into it. but i wonder how lower level defis will manage.
#17
Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:00 PM
#18
Posted 13 October 2011 - 03:31 AM
Still idk if evasion is good idea - instead of that i would put max in Binding soul
BTW. DMG from aoe's finish at 20 sec or 21? if 20 9 dna in aoe is useless - 8 is enought
EDIT: checked few times and last hit is on 21 sec - if i'am wrong tell me plz
Edited by Drizzt, 13 October 2011 - 04:05 AM.
#19
Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:26 AM
btw seriously? 19k HP?
#20
Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:37 AM
Imagine a zerker trying to kill him with the reflect skill kinda impossibleI cant let go of Invisibility myself.
btw seriously? 19k HP?
#21
Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:45 AM
#22
Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:00 AM
I cant let go of Invisibility myself.
btw seriously? 19k HP?
Didn't use invisibility be4 but atm i'am mostly PvE so eva should be usefull. Yeah 19k with alosa + biskra hp belt 7/7 hp/con s1 - rest i fill with crit xeons. Full DPS gear is around 17k HP
max dmg dna ic. with faster VT and aoe. i noticed you sacrificed AoR completely which i personally love but can see why you wont need it. using your build as a base, im thinking of losing invis and plugging some of it into shadowbinding and removing maybe 2/3 pts from SoF and filling AoR. but yeah, idk how useful AoR will be with so little DNA to play with.
I didn't put points in AoR because atm we have 2 instant aoe - Rake nail / Blood Moon. Yeah i was also thinking about shadow binding, but i had it be4 and was using rarely (more eva should work good for mobs and aa class - sin / SR / zerk)
BTW. guys did u noticed that hush doesn't work at Attack of Curse and Bood Moon?
Edited by Drizzt, 13 October 2011 - 05:02 AM.
#23
Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:03 AM
game still thinks they're melee attacks
BTW. guys did u noticed that hush doesn't work at Attack of Curse and Bood Moon?
#24
Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:05 AM
#25
Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:08 AM
and alotta td buffs/rare buffs?Didn't use invisibility be4 but atm i'am mostly PvE so eva should be usefull. Yeah 19k with alosa + biskra hp belt 7/7 hp/con s1 - rest i fill with crit xeons. Full DPS gear is around 17k HP
No! KewlBTW. guys did u noticed that hush doesn't work at Attack of Curse and Bood Moon?
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