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[Wiggles]

There is a very large number of bots on Ymir right now. Estimating 50-200 Chinese gold farmer bots.


So, what happened to the pay to play stuff stopping them?

Edited by Wiggles, 17 October 2011 - 08:26 PM.

[IronPlushy]

There is a very large number of bots on Ymir right now. Estimating 50-200.


So, what happened to the pay to play stuff stopping them?

maybe theyre terminators? maybe someone made a john connor character

[Ayleria]

Yeah, I went to get a character ready for the 2x exp event (want to try out a sorc!). On Level 2 and 3 of the training grounds, I couldn't even kill a single monster because of the mobs of bots there. That is the first time I've seen so many bots on Ymir in a long while.

[morphine]

Maybe they saved up a bunch of them from an earlier time when they could make characters for free and they're releasing them all at once suddenly? lol... It's kind of a creepy thought... an army of soulless, default-haired rogues just hiding... waiting... :[

Time for someone to use their powerful GM Summon skill I guess.

[TheSquishy]

Maybe they saved up a bunch of them from an earlier time when they could make characters for free...

Everybody kinda knew this would happen though. I bet the bot farmers thought we wouldn't
notice.

[morphine]

It happened later than I expected it would have though... It's mysterious. Except not really.

[TheSquishy]

Maybe they were waiting for the xp event so they could level their rogues faster?

[BoingBoing]

zeny/hr on ymir is double that on valk (non vip), 50% more drops and drops worth 1/3 more to npc's. It works out you know.

[renouille]

They brought back the free char for non-VIP thing last week... there was no announcement but I guess the bot operators finally found out.

[Asuki]

it be nice if gms terminated this because ymir really does not need this, in fact if it becomes like valk i'll just stop playing this game

[Zinja]

Yep, Ymir has been turning into Valk for a while now, If you didn't know You are either in DENIAL or a Hypocrite.
Pretty Soon your markets are gonna be filled with zenny spammers.

Edited by Zinja, 17 October 2011 - 10:52 PM.

[ExDarkrb]

for a moment I tot that you were kidding

Edited by ExDarkrb, 18 October 2011 - 12:29 AM.

[CeruleanGamer]

Yeah this game is doomed if that "solution" proposed by Oda doesn't get implemented.

[HayrohsLegacy]

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[TheSquishy]

Well it seems to me if you wanted to conduct an experiment in bot control
Ymir's near sterile environment would be the best place to test it. They can basically
open the server for a specific amount of time and track the exact number of suspected
bot accounts created.

[Agahim]

Yeah this game is doomed if that "solution" proposed by Oda doesn't get implemented.

as far as i understood, the solution they're working on will only be for the zeny-spammers in pront. the rest of the whole botting mischief will continue to happen as it does currently.

i like that ymir currently has its own bot related problems, that will put more preassure on the GMs to finally do something against it, instead of just giving us their standard answer "go play on ymir if bots bother you". i also like that there are mostly like 3-5 topics with bot complaints on the first page on this forum. sooner or later something has to be done. or so i hope.

Edited by Agahim, 18 October 2011 - 05:53 AM.

[Unifan]

working as intended

[Imz0r]

The Ragnarok is approaching! Brace yourselves souls of ymir!

on a serious note i wonder how many accounts these goldfarmers/botters have in reserve for ymir lol.
i've got the image in my head of a sweatshop of workers creating account after account for the duration of ymirs free character slot events. XD

[Wiggles]

Well it seems to me if you wanted to conduct an experiment in bot control
Ymir's near sterile environment would be the best place to test it.

Would be a good place to test the response time of GM's too.

Its been 7 hours since I made this thread, sent a ticket, and PM'd Oda. All the bots are still there.

[Zinja]

Would be a good place to test the response time of GM's too.

Its been 7 hours since I made this thread, sent a ticket, and PM'd Oda. All the bots are still there.

Don't worry there will be still there even after a day
the next day
the next next day
and so on...

I have faith in bots.

[MeisterKirisaki]

Would be a good place to test the response time of GM's too.

Its been 7 hours since I made this thread, sent a ticket, and PM'd Oda. All the bots are still there.

Don't worry there will be still there even after a day
the next day
the next next day
and so on...

I have faith in bots.

Ymir is still different from Valkyrie, an isolated outstanding incident doesn't change that. GMs banned (not all, but most) botters on Ymir swiftly and accurately for a while now, why should they ignore this issue? When they do indeed ignore the problem for days, you could come up with your prophecies of doom, but don't start after a few hours have passed.
Again, Ymir is not Valkyrie - for good reasons.

[Anshin]

You would think banning them from the training grounds would be the easiest place. Like shooting bots in a barrel.

[Kadelia]

as far as i understood, the solution they're working on will only be for the zeny-spammers in pront. the rest of the whole botting mischief will continue to happen as it does currently.

i like that ymir currently has its own bot related problems, that will put more preassure on the GMs to finally do soemthing against it, instead of just giving us their standard answer "go play on ymir if bots bother you". i also like that there are mostly like 3-5 topics with bot complaints on the first page on this forum. sooner or later something has to be done. or so i hope.

If they just hired a programmer to make a 3rd party bot program that patrolled towns like ragial already does, but this bot is in GM hide, has GM kick/ban powers, uses a detection method like RCX to catch people spamming chat at 30 lines a second, and ban them. Not too hard, really, considering a legit player using the legit client gets red muted long before spamming the # of lines required here.

[Myzery]

If they just hired a programmer to make a 3rd party bot program that patrolled towns like ragial already does, but this bot is in GM hide, has GM kick/ban powers, uses a detection method like RCX to catch people spamming chat at 30 lines a second, and ban them. Not too hard, really, considering a legit player using the legit client gets red muted long before spamming the # of lines required here.

Tyler already made something similar, but Heim had to get the rights from him.
Not sure if it's stuck in the pipeline somewhere or what.