43 replies to this topic

[CheddarJack]

Ladies, please take your petty differences to another thread.

There was no petty differences, just didnt want it to get to that.

[Krispin]

In the next stage, suras will be nude, they actually don't wear anything now!

At which point they'll have the abilities to just blow up the world, teleport to other worlds, get the AB's party bless, agi up and healing spells, redemptio and can equip two more megs.

Edited by Krispin, 01 November 2011 - 01:00 PM.

[eerie]

I fear that even if I was completely awake from this moment... That I would still not understand what the hell was just said in the original post. o_O Hell, might as well reference Chris Angel's little "catch phrase". And simply say: Forget it! Because a certain five letter word suits this situation so much better.

[bored]

after a couple sentences i just skimmed the rest

[Kaillera]

The bolds blinded me...

[bored]

how i felt

[ButtardToast]

[Aeroku]

only way for other classes to compete with shura is to strip off their clothing more, obviously.

[MagicHands]

This definetly sounds like iRO...Cry2Win, Instead of facing logic you guys -1 my post...Lolz. I find my sura enjoyable to play because its a very enjoyable class. I rarely waist 2 Ales on people because most of them are like you, whining about classes you know considerably nothing about, all the while retain no information about how to play your class. You remind me of 6-7 children pointing fingers because you would rather place the blame on someone else. There is a multiple array of classes that I know how to play to easily beat a sura, but maybe thats because i know how to properly gear myself and I know exactly how to react to a sura when I see one. Grow up, grow some balls and learn to play before you make a qq thread. There has almost been no valid arguement other than "qq sura so pwerful nerf plsss". What your saying is that is because its a very well rounded character that its overpowered? The only reason that they are so very overpowered is Cursed circle, other than that I dont see anything wrong with the class when the balance patch comes out. If you have any complaints please lets actually have a conversation as to why there so "OP" instead of trolls and whining, maybe we can actually have a purpose for these threads being created in the first place. I would listen to a decent arguement or conversation rather than children crying any day, im pretty sure the CMs and GMs would as well.

[wdan]

Of course Suras are enjoyable to play because it Pew Pews, and thus everyone is bad in their eyes.
That attitude is exactly what the OP is referring to.

[MagicHands]

No because i see 85% of the people i do kill just try and outpot instead of using skills to defend yourself. Im sorry if you think Ranked Slim White potions is a skill, just because you have it hotkeyed doesnt make it so.

[MagicHands]

Oh look more crying, I see where this thread will continue to go.

[ButtardToast]

Oh look more crying, I see where this thread will continue to go.

[iCandy]

1.5 to 2 sec global cool down to Snap would be a good change. Seriously, no more snap CC, snap GOH, Snap EF.

[Dl2agon]

Heres my 2 cents

I believe Suras are overpowered. There lack of Aoe? in what woe? who needs Aoe when you see most Cc GoH or Gfist one shotting everyone and ale back up. and GoH is almost instant cast with the right gear. My main is a Gx and ive been playing sura cause thy are the easiest class ive ever played. you just tele skyblow nogg until rising dragon is lvl 5 then go lightning ride. sure Suras are a very expensive class but if you get one high enough youll be making zeny easy. There are about perfect at everyhting. they tank anything, have the ability to almost one shot everything. There Aoes in Pvm are amazing. Not only can they Put out good Aoe damage with lightning ride and rampaging blast but they get an Aoe stunner such as windmill. They are too good all around with minor flaws.

[Dreimdal]

1.5 to 2 sec global cool down to Snap would be a good change. Seriously, no more snap CC, snap GOH, Snap EF.

I would think it'd be better to cool down the attack skills instead, such as GoH or GF. Really any attack skill, on any class, should have some kind of cool down if it's really powerful. That includes CS, Acid Bomb, etc. Not just Sura skills. This would prevent too much spammable killing and allows more balance between classes.

Edited by Dreimdal, 02 November 2011 - 10:03 PM.

[Tofu]

1.5 to 2 sec global cool down to Snap would be a good change. Seriously, no more snap CC, snap GOH, Snap EF.

If you die to snap Gfist, you're just bad. There's already a 2 second delay between snap and gfist, which is why most good suras will speed pot gfist if they dont want to CC you first. A delay after snap added for CC and GoH would possibly make things more balanced. If you can see a sura is snapping near you soon enough, it is often enough to simply take a few steps away from them, and they will often CC you while you're still moving, putting you out of range of gfist. GoH is still reachable, but is much less likely to kill you.

And I think that a 10 second cool down on gfist itself, and not sp items after gfisting would make it more controlled, but not make you hotkey bwings next to gfist since either way, you'll either be dead or you could get back to that point in the castle/map sooner. I don't think the inbalance lies in the fact that suras can snap away after gfist, but that they can virtually spam gfist endlessly.

[MagicHands]

If you die to snap Gfist, you're just bad. There's already a 2 second delay between snap and gfist, which is why most good suras will speed pot gfist if they dont want to CC you first. A delay after snap added for CC and GoH would possibly make things more balanced. If you can see a sura is snapping near you soon enough, it is often enough to simply take a few steps away from them, and they will often CC you while you're still moving, putting you out of range of gfist. GoH is still reachable, but is much less likely to kill you.

And I think that a 10 second cool down on gfist itself, and not sp items after gfisting would make it more controlled, but not make you hotkey bwings next to gfist since either way, you'll either be dead or you could get back to that point in the castle/map sooner. I don't think the inbalance lies in the fact that suras can snap away after gfist, but that they can virtually spam gfist endlessly.

I agree totally that this will bring about a good amount of change in the woe scene, but my main concern is tweaking Cursed Circle to something that isnt quite as overwelming as stopping entire guilds. My solution for this skill would be to take up 3 orbs per one person, with a maximum of 5 people in cursed circle making this skill more over for support rather than the CC>Gfist spam that it is now.

[Haze]

What you people don't realize... is that Suras suck, unless they are geared right. They take a lot of zeny and love, to get to where they are. You people should quit bitching... all you need to do is spend more time hunting better gears, or hunting for zenies. I have seen EVERY single class do incredible things with the right gear. Learn how to play your character. It's not fair to nerf the players who actually put the effort into the game. It is fair to expect that you work to make your character good.