47 replies to this topic

[meli]

Uhh, why the rush on implementing this when a lot of people didn't even get to test, with so little time given? I hope they rush as fast on fixing whatever's gonna be broken, and allow plenty of resets...

[Mogar]

Oh goody, screwed over earlier than expected.

[Xyst]

So we will have some kind of free reset?

[Hinkypunk]

now that's just being ignorant. GMs have made several changes to Sakray server to accommodate player testing. For skill formulas and such, iRO GMs have very limited power to make changes.

In that case, the patch needs to be delayed. Accommodating Sakray testing is one thing, but issuing a statement that the patch being tested will be implemented next maintenance is entirely different. Especially when you consider there's been very little communication on the status of skills and what's been fixed. If the product/patch is too low-quality/buggy, it's the manager's call to delay release until improved. Now if Heim cannot make that call and the release date is dictated by kRO HQ, he'd be best to communicate this fact.

And right now, the problem is a severe lack of communication coupled with what feels like negligent over-hastiness. Not that the management should be responding to every question that pops up on the forum, but brief 'status updates' and responses to threads where enough players are asking the same thing...are definitely things the management really ought to consider.

Speaking for myself, I prefer a product that is both timely and quality. Failing that, however, I'd much rather wait a little longer for a quality product than get an obviously broken product right now.

[Clogon]

Speaking for myself, I prefer a product that is both timely and quality. Failing that, however, I'd much rather wait a little longer for a quality product than get an obviously broken product right now.

The problem is that ANY bug fixes need to go through kRO first. Remember the last time kRO promised us to deliver the balance patch?

[CeruleanGamer]

+1 if you think at least 10 things will get messed up tomorrow.

[Resplendent]

Only 10?

[CeruleanGamer]

Only 10?

I'm trying to be optimistic about this maintenance since I haven't done so for the past 20 maintenances.

[Dawei]

As for people complaining about sakray test..... Why do u wait for others to test things and tell you? Why don't u just go test them yourself.....? Or do u not know how skills and formulas work with stats? Maybe you should do your homework... Sakray is a public server and very easy to use.... If u don't test things your self that's your own fault also sakray is just to test formulas not to test whether the patch is good or not for lvling/woe...read the 14.1/sakray threads.... The formulas work.... The patch will defenately have problems due to the large change in so many things and getting then to work hence the extended maintaince...... Am I happy about it coming tomorrow... No .....am I happy with the "balancing"...No... But I'm not complaining the gms already talk about fixing it but it has to come in before anything can change.... Why not help them change it faster by testing and giving feedback in the appropriate channels instead of just ranting....go to irowiki take the hour or so downlaliad (if u have a 6 year old computer like me) and a 5 min install/ patch....

[sayoko]

i really want the balance on live servers, becouse i can make my choice to stay here or not U,U

[Clogon]

Why do u wait for others to test things and tell you? Why don't u just go test them yourself.....?

Maybe cause the server rejects my connection every time I try to log on and gives me the boot?

I really wish they'd delay it 1 more week as I finally fixed my comp but haven't 150's my Chaser yet. =( However the faster they implement it, the faster they can get feedback so we can get kRO to change things. iRO cannot change the balance of the game without kRO doing it first.

[Okii]

It's funny how long it took to get here, and now we're being rushed in using it for testing...

[sayoko]

how much time until the dragons breath balance???? 1 or 2 years? U,U

[Jimmyawake]

So some of my character are getting alot better Woot! Some of my characters are getting hit with the nerf stick. Are my 150/50 characters gonna get a FREE nueralizer and reset. I dont beleive i should have to pay for those things when my skillz are getting changed. This is my main concern since i wasnt able to test the new balance changes to ro.

once again...

Free neuralizer and reset that can be used more than once.

[CeruleanGamer]

So some of my character are getting alot better Woot! Some of my characters are getting hit with the nerf stick. Are my 150/50 characters gonna get a FREE nueralizer and reset. I dont beleive i should have to pay for those things when my skillz are getting changed. This is my main concern since i wasnt able to test the new balance changes to ro.

once again...

Free neuralizer and reset that can be used more than once.

Free resets for the week or two since they want us to test crap in the main servers instead of Sakray...

[Chris]

You would think they would prefer to take their time implementing the balance patch.

[LeonFlare]

Free resets for the week or two since they want us to test crap in the main servers instead of Sakray...

well, with only 40-50 people in sak, we cant test too much, kinda eveyone fault too

[CeruleanGamer]

well, with only 40-50 people in sak, we cant test too much, kinda eveyone fault too

Well it's annoying because we have to download another client for it instead of picking in from the server selection when you log in. People just find the installation process troublesome.

[Akami]

I knew this was going to happen. They said they wanted to take things at a steady pace and make sure everything was done right, then at the end they crack under pressure and rush it. Now a bunch of crap is going to be broken as hell, players are going to be raging left & right for a month, and I don't even know how many "emergency maintenence LOG OUT NAO!!" messages we're going to get for the next few weeks.

[Puppet]

well, with only 40-50 people in sak, we cant test too much, kinda eveyone fault too

actual its kinda gravity fault, seeing you need a 2nd client, instead of listing it in the main server list, and them not really making it point to tell ever one to download and help them test it out.

I knew this was going to happen. They said they wanted to take things at a steady pace and make sure everything was done right, then at the end they crack under pressure and rush it. Now a bunch of crap is going to be broken as hell, players are going to be raging left & right for a month, and I don't even know how many "emergency maintenence LOG OUT NAO!!" messages we're going to get for the next few weeks.

welcome to the mentality of iro and heim and how ever update has gone to date. They dont test things internal like most game companies, they shot it out in to the wild and have there customers report the bugs cause there to lazy do test internally.where there beta testerQA people its was like this even when the game was p2p, f2p made this issue more apparent among other things its made worse.

Edited by Puppet, 13 December 2011 - 12:16 PM.

[ZeoKenX]

Patch theme Song to those raging away from Rune Knights,me excluded =o

[LeonFlare]

u know its ... kinda funny how everyone its raging about, a few months ago everybody was OMGWEWANTSKILLPATCHNAOOOO! and now is WTHWAITTOEVERYTHINGPERFECT! u guys are so bipolar

do i need to remember you how this skillpatch is the result of months ... i mean YEARS of player testing in kro? and u want more? ... please?

and now ppl come out whit IRO STAFF DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TESTING! ITS THEIR FAULT! .... really? even when was people main topic this week? even when they put it on the main page news?

really if people dont test stuff because was lazy and stupid about how and why download and install sakray, and just arguign why they dont just put in the char selection and dont know what to do when the skillpatch hits on mains, its pretty much their fault

most of the time like everyone else, im arguing about the stupid things iro team and heim do, like when they put the Gostring and Deviling cards back in to the OCA's in valk and didnt tell anyone about that ...

but in this case im pretty sure iro team tested everything they can, so i can't really complain about what they did ...

... weeell maybe complain a little about dragon howling ... that useless skill ... but meh

TL;DR : stop being hipsters and enjoy the game

[Lambor]

Thank God for the TL;DR. Only sentence I could read.

Edited by Lambor, 13 December 2011 - 01:17 PM.