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#1 tythemuss

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

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Pvp / UW Build
Here is the straight forward guide to making a scout (pvp / uw). In short you will have alot of dodge, good attack power but average defence. This here will be a quick step guide which will include

skills, stats and which gear to pick and choose.

Scout:
Bow Scouts vs Xbowscouts

Bow scout
-Has increased amount of attack power
-Has around about the same accuracy if not more
-Has more dodge
-Same Critical

Xbow Scout
-Little attack power
-Less accuracy
-Less dodge but more defence
-Same critical
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Stat benifits for Scout


Dex Gives attack power and dodge rate
Con Gives accuracy, attack power(?)
Sen Gives Critical Hits and lowers the dammage of critical hits on themselves
Str (optional, not recommended), HP and defence

Standard Stats for Scout


300 Dex
300 Con
Rest Sen

300 Dex
250 Con
Rest Sen

350 Dex
rest con

Optional (not for unexperienced)
300 Dex
300 Con
200 Str

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Scout Skills:


Note that these skills can be customized to suit which ever build you would like to have, this is just to give an idea of what skills to point your skill points towards.

Common
Combat Mastery Level 9
Sprint Level 5
Rapid Twitch Level 5
Quick Reflexes Level 9
Second Sight Level 1 (for decloaking only)
Requiem Level 4
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Bow
Mana Profit Level 9
Soul Discipline Level 5
Offensive Focus Level 5
Bow Mastery Level 18
Clamp Arrow Level 9
Shackle Arrow Level 9
Double Arrow Level 9
Tripple Arrow Level 9
Stun Arrow Level 4
Back Pack Training (only needed without IM passives)
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Melee (to get Dodgerate buff)
Knuckle Mastery Level 18
Focused Impact Level 9
Dual Weapon Mastery Level 9
Mirror Phantasm Level 5
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Scout
Mana Flow 9
Soul Current Level 5
Advanced Bow Mastery Level 18
Poison Shot Level 9
Aimed Triple Arrow Level 5
Phoenix Arrow Level 2
Point Black Arrow Level 5
Longinus Incarnation Level 5
Warning! Impact Arrow is not needed, it shares the same cooldown as Stun arrow, but has a increased timer on it making it useless.
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Item Mall (note that there is more to be added to the picture)
Swift Blessing
Bow Iron Blessing
Bow wind Blessing
Nimble Blessing
All the weight trainings
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Armor Sets


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Above you can see is the standard set for a 220 raider and should be the first set you aquire. (Or reinforced for the less fortunate)

Standard equipment:

Glor Set (head, chest, gloves, shoes)
Adds Dodge rate and accuracy
Level requirment: 200

Mask of lies
40 Movement speed
17 Dodge
Added Stats
60 Movement speed with 40 Dodge
Level Requirment: 70

Raptor back shield
1025 Defence
850 Max Hp
Sub Stat
60 Movement speed with 40 Dodge
or Attack power
Requirment: Haker, 200+

Piercing Arch 15
490 Attack Power
939 Accuracy
8.4 % Attack speed
59 Dodge
Requirment: 291 Dex, Level 200+
Sea Set + Jade 7

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Extra Equipment:


Attack power:
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Chivalrous Raptor Set
-Head
-Chest
-Gloves
-Shoes
Requirment: Hawker Job, 200+

Star Glasses
45 Attack power
Substat- 40 Attack Power

Doctor Back Arms (15 is optional)
55 Attack power
6.3 % Attack Speed

Earring & Necklace of Lava (per item)
-45 Attack power
-64 Accuracy
-Gem D7 20 + 5% Attack power

Junon Ring
-100 Attack power
-Gem D7 20 + 5%

Accuracy:

You can use your main dodge rate Glorious set as your Accuracy buff set

Ikaness Back pack
-3700 Inventory capacity
-63 Accuracy
Sub Stat- 75
Level requirement 193

Jolly Mask
11 Accuracy
Sub stat- 75 accuracy

Lava Set (Necklace, Earring, ring)
45 Attack power
64 Accuracy
Gem Moon stone 7, 20 Accuracy + 5%

Movement Speed (mainly used as a uw set):

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Precious Set
-Head
-Chest
-Gloves
-Shoes (You can also get different shoes for more movement speed)
Requirment: Hawker job, 200+

Rat Tail Mustache (Item Mall)
80 Movement speed
Sub stat- 40 movement speed

200+ wings (or Item mall wings)
80-120 movement speed
60 movement speed sub stat

Bow of Artemis (can get faster movement speed weapons)
8.4% Attack Speed
90 Movement speed
Added gem = Sagi for another 50 Movement Speed
Requirment: 108 Dex

Typhoon set with sagi stones for max movement speed
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Will be triple checking after this post, adding more photos, editing builds ect for the next two hours that im on. Feed back giving me errors, even typos would help. ty :thumb:

Edited by tythemuss, 28 April 2012 - 04:32 PM.

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#2 Naughty

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:47 PM

Where you say

Bow
Mana Profit Level 9
Soul Decipline Level 5
Offensive Focus Level 5
Bow Mastery Level 18
Clamp Arrow Level 9
Shackle Arrow Level 9
Double Arrow Level 9
Tripple Arrow Level 9
Stun Arrow Level 4
Back Pack Training (only needed without IM passives)


Is that the correct spelling for Soul Decipline? I thought it was Soul Discipline.

I think there is another mispelling, further down, Where you say

Melee (to get Dodgerate buff)
Knucle Mastery Level 18
Focused Impact Level 9
Dual Weapon Mastery Level 9


I think it should say Knuckle Mastery

Lastly, Tythemuss its so refreshing to see you contributing to Forums like this.
It made my day to come home from work and read it... It really did =)
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:15 PM

Where you say

Bow
Mana Profit Level 9
Soul Decipline Level 5
Offensive Focus Level 5
Bow Mastery Level 18
Clamp Arrow Level 9
Shackle Arrow Level 9
Double Arrow Level 9
Tripple Arrow Level 9
Stun Arrow Level 4
Back Pack Training (only needed without IM passives)


Is that the correct spelling for Soul Decipline? I thought it was Soul Discipline.

I think there is another mispelling, further down, Where you say

Melee (to get Dodgerate buff)
Knucle Mastery Level 18
Focused Impact Level 9
Dual Weapon Mastery Level 9


I think it should say Knuckle Mastery

Lastly, Tythemuss its so refreshing to see you contributing to Forums like this.
It made my day to come home from work and read it... It really did =)

Thank you and has been edited.
And lol thanks
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 05:07 AM

Again a very nice guide.

I've got three questions for you.

1. Why is Phoenix arrow only level 2?
2. Why is Entangling arrow only level 1?
3. Does a level 5 Point blank arrow has a faster cooldown than a level 1 Point blank arrow?

Edited by Cloudius, 12 January 2012 - 05:07 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 07:00 AM

Thank you and has been edited.
And lol thanks



Pinning Topic. Hold still, this wont hurt one bit...Honest :bow:
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 06:29 PM

hi is this a current guide looking at the dates im asumeing so just wondering as i have been gone a yr and started lvling my scout....
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:44 AM

Again a very nice guide.

I've got three questions for you.

1. Why is Phoenix arrow only level 2?
2. Why is Entangling arrow only level 1?
3. Does a level 5 Point blank arrow has a faster cooldown than a level 1 Point blank arrow?

Answers to 1,2- The point why both are level 1 and 2 are because you have a insufficient amount of skill points to further both skills because of how many skill points it takes to get the dodge rate buff. You also need both skills as you need more skills to spam in order to deal out more damage, the extra skill point goes on phoenix arrow as it is the stronger skill out of the two. I have also tested both skill builds (everything max w.o dodge rate buff was my first build but it sucked compared to this). 3- as for the cool down on point blank arrow i think that it just shares the same cool down as you increase that skill.

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hi is this a current guide looking at the dates im asumeing so just wondering as i have been gone a yr and started lvling my scout....

This is the current scout guide that is up to date. Till they screw around with the classes again, then ill re do it

Edited by tythemuss, 13 January 2012 - 12:45 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:43 AM

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Bow
Mana Profit Level 9
Soul Discipline Level 5
Offensive Focus Level 5
Bow Mastery Level 18
Clamp Arrow Level 9
Shackle Arrow Level 9
Double Arrow Level 9
Tripple Arrow Level 9
Stun Arrow Level 4
Back Pack Training (only needed without IM passives)
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Scout
Mana Flow 9
Soul Current Level 5
Advanced Bow Mastery Level 18
Poison Shot Level 9
Aimed Triple Arrow Level 5
Phoenix Arrow Level 2
Point Black Arrow Level 5
Longinus Incarnation Level 5
Warning! Impact Arrow is not needed, it shares the same cooldown as Stun arrow, but has a increased timer on it making it useless.
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Bow of Artemis (can get faster movement speed weapons)
8.4% Attack Speed
90 Movement speed
Added gem = Sagi for another 50 Movement Speed
Requirment: 108 Dex


For the Scout moves list you forgot to include Entangling (or Entanglement? Anyways the mspeed down skill) Arrow as well as Cloaking. Point Black Arrow should be Point Blank Arrow. A description of these skills would be good, such as the max level, weapon and skill requirements, distance, cooldown, duration, and what % debuff they have.

I think a little more description of alternate builds would be good as well as a little more context on what skills can be changed. For instance with the MP and HP recovery passives you could write that people could leave it at level 1 and choose to use MP food or potions. People will want to know why they don't have to max a certain skill, and it's not just always going to be because they don't have enough skill points for it, it also has to do with the way people play, like for example, Cloaking.

Bow Of Artemis is pretty hard to find these days because it's a unique, people are probably better off acquiring a Precious Zephyr Falcon with 120 mspeed from the Honor weapons shop.

Nice start though dude and you're still smelly. :bow:

Edited by RagingHormones, 13 January 2012 - 10:44 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:05 PM

Why is your chivalrous hat 85 dura? :bow:
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:30 PM

thank you :blah: ill be sure to have a good look through the guide as im lvling from 160onwared

a quick question tho as im to poor for the UW gear at current i am wondering if a rienforced 60/40 glove hat n boots (15) would be a good replacement along with maby the 180 wings 60/40 (i make my own gear) my question is with this gear is precious or glorious chest going to be the better chest pce to get 1st??
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 07:34 AM

thank you :blah: ill be sure to have a good look through the guide as im lvling from 160onwared

a quick question tho as im to poor for the UW gear at current i am wondering if a rienforced 60/40 glove hat n boots (15) would be a good replacement along with maby the 180 wings 60/40 (i make my own gear) my question is with this gear is precious or glorious chest going to be the better chest pce to get 1st??


Imo, glorious should always be the first set for any hawker types. But you will also need Chivalrous and Precious for buffsets.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:41 AM

For the Scout moves list you forgot to include Entangling (or Entanglement? Anyways the mspeed down skill) Arrow as well as Cloaking. Point Black Arrow should be Point Blank Arrow. A description of these skills would be good, such as the max level, weapon and skill requirements, distance, cooldown, duration, and what % debuff they have.I think a little more description of alternate builds would be good as well as a little more context on what skills can be changed. For instance with the MP and HP recovery passives you could write that people could leave it at level 1 and choose to use MP food or potions. People will want to know why they don't have to max a certain skill, and it's not just always going to be because they don't have enough skill points for it, it also has to do with the way people play, like for example, Cloaking.Bow Of Artemis is pretty hard to find these days because it's a unique, people are probably better off acquiring a Precious Zephyr Falcon with 120 mspeed from the Honor weapons shop.Nice start though dude and you're still smelly. :D

You just had to make more work for me ><, will be edited once my laptop get fixed

thank you :dunno: ill be sure to have a good look through the guide as im lvling from 160onwareda quick question tho as im to poor for the UW gear at current i am wondering if a rienforced 60/40 glove hat n boots (15) would be a good replacement along with maby the 180 wings 60/40 (i make my own gear) my question is with this gear is precious or glorious chest going to be the better chest pce to get 1st??

Reinforced is good if you do not have enough money for the other sets but you would have to covert sets later on to make your scout more efficient. As for the prec / glor question, glor should be the first piece you should get out of the two
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:46 PM

Why is your chivalrous hat 85 dura? :dunno:

It was once glitched on 0 dura and the Gm's fixed it and they made it 85 dura...

S>100b

Edited by tythemuss, 22 January 2012 - 06:57 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

first time making a scout, thx for the thorough guide.
but, I'm still torn between the epic bow and hardened zephyr. since epic bow only gives 8+%aspd and dodge, no AP substat. the only advantage is the dex req, 291 =/ I haven't gotten a chance to test both of bow though
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

first time making a scout, thx for the thorough guide.
but, I'm still torn between the epic bow and hardened zephyr. since epic bow only gives 8+%aspd and dodge, no AP substat. the only advantage is the dex req, 291 =/ I haven't gotten a chance to test both of bow though

If you ever need help with scouts, you can contact me, I will be more than happy to help you.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:22 PM

first time making a scout, thx for the thorough guide.
but, I'm still torn between the epic bow and hardened zephyr. since epic bow only gives 8+%aspd and dodge, no AP substat. the only advantage is the dex req, 291 =/ I haven't gotten a chance to test both of bow though

The HZF is a cheaper weapon yes but compared to the advantages of an epic bow, the stat regain and bonuses make up for the lack of ap, imo epic bow is considerable better :D
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:32 PM

If you ever need help with scouts, you can contact me, I will be more than happy to help you.

hi Davy! yea I'd like to get some good advice to make decent scout from you. hehe. I'll be contacting you ingame :wacko:

The HZF is a cheaper weapon yes but compared to the advantages of an epic bow, the stat regain and bonuses make up for the lack of ap, imo epic bow is considerable better :rolleyes:

mm yeah, and now I have to reset my stat = =, I pumped like 310dex already, but..do I really need to reset it?

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

Star glasses max ap stat is 30 not 40 :P
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:33 PM

does this pinned topic on a Scout need to be updated?

I mean the skills that was explained to get mirror phantasm looks to be unusable with a bow.

[Requires:Dual Swords]

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:37 PM

does this pinned topic on a Scout need to be updated?

I mean the skills that was explained to get mirror phantasm looks to be unusable with a bow.

[Requires:Dual Swords]

will be updated in the next week or so
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 11:57 AM

Hi just a few questions on your build.
1) Wouldn't you want entangling arrow to be max out since it has the same cool down but lowers dodge and movement speed a lot more?
2) Why wouldn't you even out or even level phoenix arrow more then aimed triple arrow if phoenix arrow does more damage?

Thank you :)
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:21 PM

Wait, Sooooo I don't need to add in the skill points in "Melee" ? Since you're required to have dual swords equipped? ._____.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 02:33 PM

Great guide it showed me alot idk and what to do but is this still up to date?
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

Very nice guide, does need some tweaks and there is somethings I would personally change but overall a good guide. I would love for all classes to have deatiled guides and explanations like this kept up to date. Im a fairly new player and have been trying to look up some guides for some classes but only seem to find guides from iRose not Rose online.

Hopefully more guides like this will be put up soon and pinned for everyone to see for all classes and kept up to date.

Overall again great guide, keep at it. :)
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

Shall be re updated between a week and now, now that i can access forums once again
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