why do you hate warlocks? - Class Discussion - WarpPortal Community Forums

Jump to content


Photo

why do you hate warlocks?


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 xWar

xWar

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 11 posts

Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:34 PM

pallys and sins have tons of block
theifs/archers have tons of movement/dodge
summoners are just a joke in pvp as far as i can tell
i havnt seen many twins so idk much about them
that leaves priests and warlocks

the only thing i see with them in the ability to stack hp and slowheal, but wait if you slowheal your just a cheating ^_^ according to pvp standards

so how the :D are warlocks and priests suppose to fight the dodge/block/movement stacked pallys/theives/archers 1v1?

so quit whining about a mage slowhealing cuz you all know who the real biches are. (all the pallys who work for warp portal)

AND WHY THE :( DID YOU TAKE AWAY WARLOCKS ACTION CANCEL BUT NOT PALLYS HMMMMMM? seems a little bias

Edited by xWar, 01 March 2012 - 11:39 PM.

  • 0

#2 Kerwell

Kerwell

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 490 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:07 AM

:0?
  • 0

#3 Albruna

Albruna

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 310 posts
  • Playing:Nothing
  • Server:Wynn Ship

Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:56 AM

Where to start...

As far as I can tell, it's obvious that you haven't spend much time in pvp yet.
It's common knowledge that pallies are beyond broken and can counter every class easily. To enlighten you, summoners are op, if played right (in a team, most certainly).
A warlock shines in team pvp, not in 1vs1.

What makes you think, that stacking health and relying on slow heal are the only options for warlocks?
Yes, healing in pvp is cheap, and that's why no one with a brain does it. I don't heal at all in pvp and do just fine against most classes to a certain degree, even the ones you named in your original post.

Learn to play your class right and get to know your skills and abilities and how to use them to your advantage. Then, if you still want to complain, you are more than welcome to do so.

The same goes for priests - it is possible for them to not heal in pvp and still being useful. If played right, that is.

edit: fixing spelling errors.

Edited by Albruna, 02 March 2012 - 04:51 AM.

  • 5

#4 Frank1e

Frank1e

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 113 posts

Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:57 PM

Where to start...

As far as I can tell, it's obvious that you haven't spend much time in pvp yet.
It's common knowledge that pallies are beyond broken and can counter every class easily. To enlighten you, summoners are op, if played right (in a team, most certainly).
A warlock shines in team pvp, not in 1vs1.

What makes you think, that stacking health and relying on slow heal are the only options for warlocks?
Yes, healing in pvp is cheap, and that's why no one with a brain does it. I don't heal at all in pvp and do just fine against most classes to a certain degree, even the ones you named in your original post.

Learn to play your class right and get to know your skills and abilities and how to use them to your advantage. Then, if you still want to complain, you are more than welcome to do so.

The same goes for priests - it is possible for them to not heal in pvp and still being useful. If played right, that is.

edit: fixing spelling errors.

Don't listen to this tard
Mages are considered a threat to said op classes because of the ability to freeze and debuff freely. Slow heal takes time to really be of use due to the mage classes having low hp mods. If anyone let's you heal, they are a noob. Adapt and overcome is truth. This is probably the first game most people have played if its the first time priest have healed in combat.
That aside all classes have a counter. Like most people would agree, most play the classes already proven to be buffed up. A preist who heals himself confronting a dps ppowerhouse should be considered an insult the the other class. Go all out man pick a different class. F them if they can't take a joke
  • 0

#5 GrapefruitGod

GrapefruitGod

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1338 posts
  • LocationSurrounded by kneesocks
  • Playing:Dragon Saga
  • Server:decard

Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:04 PM

Don't listen to this tard
Mages are considered a threat to said op classes because of the ability to freeze and debuff freely. Slow heal takes time to really be of use due to the mage classes having low hp mods. If anyone let's you heal, they are a noob. Adapt and overcome is truth. This is probably the first game most people have played if its the first time priest have healed in combat.
That aside all classes have a counter. Like most people would agree, most play the classes already proven to be buffed up. A preist who heals himself confronting a dps ppowerhouse should be considered an insult the the other class. Go all out man pick a different class. F them if they can't take a joke

Either you're incredibly stupid, or you're new to pvp.
  • 4

#6 zabmaru

zabmaru

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1403 posts
  • LocationSome rural craphole
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

F them if they can't take a joke, because I am a MASSIVE joke.


Maybe you should stop being so obtuse. If the generally accepted rules are against using slow heal, then maybe you shouldn't use slow heal. I'm sure more experienced people have debated this for a while after coming to that point. I mean, if all the kids are playing with blocks, you can't just yell "F YOU GUYS, I WANT TO PLAY WITH TOY CARS". Aren't you married? How well does that mindset work in your relationship?
  • 0

#7 Jumpluffspore

Jumpluffspore

    Awarded #1 Troll

  • Members
  • 823 posts
  • Playing:Dragon Saga

Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:11 PM

You didn't mention harlequins this thread is trash

Don't listen to this tard
Mages are considered a threat to said op classes because of the ability to freeze and debuff freely. Slow heal takes time to really be of use due to the mage classes having low hp mods. If anyone let's you heal, they are a noob. Adapt and overcome is truth. This is probably the first game most people have played if its the first time priest have healed in combat.
That aside all classes have a counter. Like most people would agree, most play the classes already proven to be buffed up. A preist who heals himself confronting a dps ppowerhouse should be considered an insult the the other class. Go all out man pick a different class. F them if they can't take a joke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXkK7-HUdxoThis video sums up my feelings towards this thread and to your reply.

Edited by Jumpluffspore, 02 March 2012 - 03:12 PM.

  • 1

#8 Endbringer

Endbringer

    Awarded #1 Troll

  • Members
  • 574 posts

Posted 02 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

Don't feel the troll, tards.
  • 3

#9 EIEIO

EIEIO

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 13 posts
  • Playing:Nothing
  • Server:Only one here... DUHH!?!

Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

No offence. But why the hell would a game make a priest class that isn't allowed to heal? It's almost like a support class that isn't suppose to support. x.x The more I look into class skill trees the more "WTF" I get. It looks so broken the fact that you look at the class and you would question yourself "Why does this class have both sides of the coin?"

I guess the devs. just decides to overlook the fact that people complains a -_- load about specific classes because they simply don't give a crap or something. It's kinda the same for every cashshop game. They're more interested in making new -_- to sell and less interested in repairing old broken -_-.

I guess in a sense, worpportal changed a lot over the years. I rather a game be paid on monthly subscription bases than be on IM crap.
  • 0

#10 PiggyNate

PiggyNate

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 60 posts

Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:12 AM

easy enough in the whole thing

get out there, pvp more and find out how to overcome the problems ._. , i am from SEA... no wait, even here, i seen ppls who can 1v1 with wm's , besides that , yes, there are classes who are OP , but dont come here to rage about it, no like-y , just quit , i am not being mean, just straight up to the point, being pissed about something and whine about it wont solve ur problem, just improve in skills or be one of those ppls who spends tons of money just to kill a simple "advanced" sc equip....

i hate this section of the forums where ppls complain about classes ... just find out how u can overcome them , seriously


about healing... no offense , but , healing, yes , it's..... actually kinda stupid .. i seen players who heal and runs away far far away, heal to max hp and comes back, then my mp is 0 , u cant argue the logic of some other players , i wont say "all" ofc.
why healing is.... not included into the main simple pvp rules, is because , when u have 1 teammate in ur team which is kinda OP , and the other team needs about 2-3 players just to kill him , and they had to lock/ do combos for around 15 seconds just to kill the guy... suddenly 1 priest comes in ( troll face) , " Le - Heal~~~ " ... well u get the point , in 1v1 or in team... my oppinion is depends on the situation... tooo OP in ur own team, no heal, too strong in the other, heal >.> , but there are noobies which runs and heals , and i bet even any of u will get annoyed by it, so yeah, i do not disagree with the "no healing" self made by players rule here...


last sentence i would like to say is .... " start training more , kids ._. "
  • 0

#11 EIEIO

EIEIO

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 13 posts
  • Playing:Nothing
  • Server:Only one here... DUHH!?!

Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

You agreed too there're certain things that "skills" cannot overcome (like someone healing). I don't see why the developers can't simply "nerf" cartain classes/skills in pvp mode just to make it more fair and so on. If you ask me, I don't find it fair that a skill on some class is completely unusable in PvP by "player rules". I do see even equips have certain limitations in pvp regarding their special status and so on, so why not skills?

I believe years ago, ninjas were one of the weakest and most unused class in the game (back when it was still called Dragonica and the lvl cap was 60 or something). Now, somehow, they became OP. I don't get why further adjustments couldn't be made, on the game side, to improve this. As I can see, pvp and "guild wars" (not the game) seems to be a very important element in most MMORPGs.

But then again, of course we can all choose to use non-OP classes and make it more of a challenge for ourselves.
  • 0

#12 PiggyNate

PiggyNate

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 60 posts

Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:56 PM

what i meant was.... any skill can be overcome with more practice, when i say pvp skills , i meant in terms of ur own movement and strategy inside a pvp , not getting skills much worse and worse again

"i remember last time how it was _____, now it's much worse " .... but asking more newer changes... every game has it's flaws
just enjoy the moment as it last

why changes happen is because that's how it shows it's moving, staying at the same spot forever is much worse ... as expected " why no new events~~? , why no new class, why no new skills in jobs ( specialist as a good example in this part < ) . 1 class after another will be nerfed if all requests are taken without thoughts.

" trappers have OP movement speed" " ninja ( dagger or whatever skills that may be ) / specialist ( sniping " so far not much complaints about this, i'd say it's a improvement as specialist NEEDS more skills from the start lolol " ) have too high dmg , OP T^T " " mages have too OP freeze skills ( i swear, i heard this be4 ) " " wariors are suuuuppppperrrrrr OP in dmg/block " , etc etc.... complaining will never end, but your own pvp skills also wont end in improvement, just learn, decide how to overcome, not sit and wait for some HUGE patch to change all these
  • 0

#13 Apocryphos

Apocryphos

    Awarded #1 Troll

  • Members
  • 615 posts
  • LocationSan Diego
  • Playing:Dragon Saga
  • Server:Vyvern

Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

On topic why I don't like mages, simple. What skill does it take to spam blizzard and the z button for super armor then blink slow heal at high enough defense and physical damage drop with the exclusion of elements(which should be rebalanced with resistance to actually do reduce damage). Other than that its good team player.


  • 0

#14 StormHaven

StormHaven

    (ノ°▽°)ノ︵┻━┻

  • VMod Retired
  • 5431 posts
  • Playing:Dragon Saga
  • Server:Dekard

Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:54 AM

I hate WMs because outside stacking PDD they really don't do anything better than the other 2 mages classes thanks to barbians short cd and to summoner buffs. Its more of a handicap to have a WM than an advantage in any situation.
  • 0

#15 Miname

Miname

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2184 posts
  • LocationDefinitely in my zone
  • Playing:Dragon Saga
  • Server:Spamonica

Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

Warmages can't even stack PDD anymore.

-_- the haters, warmages ultimately got the -_- end of the stick. If I still played, I would slow heal until I'm blue in the face.
  • 0

#16 Coolsam

Coolsam

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 4994 posts
  • LocationHiding from my Subscribers
  • Playing:Dragon Saga
  • Server:revreS

Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:40 PM

PDD can be stacked. However when it comes to pvp, players are now using Elemental attack to hit past defense and PDD. So unless your opponents don't abuse elements then yes PDD is useful however it isn't guaranteed.

When elemental resistances get fixed, which I'm seriously doubting will happen, then WM's PDD isn't useful in PvP. Especially in the end game and 40-50 pvp ranges.

They're not entirely useless however. Like it has been stated it's actually quite useful in team PvP.
  • 0

#17 Bicho

Bicho

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 101 posts

Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

i played mages from the start in dragonica now dragon saga... My main it's a warlock, i just can tell that warlock sucks in a 1v1 pvp but they are good at team pvp, but WHO THE... plays team pvp this days??? Ppl can just go to pvp and see one or two rooms with paladin/ninjas/priest in there...

That let us to play 1v1 pvp most of the time and you'll be dead if u do that, because warlocks CAN'T stack aim like the other classes and the only skill that can ignore block rate it´s a joke (time freeze) this skill takes looooooooooooooooooooonger to cast and even better if the objetive jump in the last minute they can just escape from this skill haha...

So be patient and just enjoy in game... If u die at pvp/bsq/emporia remember that it's a game and only that. No one except ninja/paladin can go in a 1v1 pvp against ninja/paladin but if u win with a warlock (or any other class) against them, plsssss be sure to laugh in their faces. Ohhh and remember to make lvl 10 mana shield and slow heal that make you hard to kill at BSQ/EW enought to protect lots of flags for long time.
  • 0

#18 PiggyNate

PiggyNate

    I made it Off Topic

  • Members
  • 60 posts

Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:24 AM

^ is kinda ok... but ppls , dont laugh at ppls who suck/weaker at pvp :p_sick:
( main purpose is promoting more pvpers~ :p_love: )
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users