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#1 Joaco

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:18 AM

Did you ever guys think how things would be if there were no bots on iRO (specially on Valkyrie server)?
Bots decreased the value of zeny, made the economy fall so low, it's because of them that GMs took off Green Ales, St. Patrick Hat, and also they make impossible the leveling of a newbie.
Do you think it's fair having tons of them on the server, spamming -_- which no-one reads, taking places for their lvling as nothing happens? It's so unfair that a person who starts on the server for the first time cannot kill good mobs, collect some items and then sell them to other players because bots take their places, kill all the mob, collect all the items and then sell them in a low price, just to earn some money, it makes me very angry!
Did you ever think why do we have bots, and kRO doesn't have at least one? It's because of its security, they implemented so many ways of security that makes impossible to log in a bot. And also, people who's not korean cannot create accounts because of the KSSN restriction, but however, if someone who have an account and he/she try to bot, he/she will not be able to enter the server because of the security. And I think GMs on iRO should do the same thing, implementing more than 1 security sistem will make botters unable to bot and the economy will raise as -_-, people will be able to level where they want to (like it's supposed to be), most of the cards will increase their value, and EVERYONE will be happy!!
I want equality for everybody, so please, +1 this and MAYBE GMs will consider my opinion.

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#2 Inubashiri

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

The spam issue can be solved by clicking on my NoSpam Configuration Guide in my siggie to tweak it to your needs. The bot issue is being thought thru, there is a dialog between iRO and kRO for some security updates as well as community member ideas.
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#3 Gunkar

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:29 AM

Don't know what you are talking about since I just came back... but I approve... I want to grow my characs and if it is gonna be hard because of this... I hope things will be settle down

I want to make money so I can buy good equipements and all



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#4 AnnoDomini

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:10 AM

Or, you could create a VIP account on Ymir for one month and see one bot every fortnight or so. You'd still retain all the 9 characters you made after that month's subscription has expired.

Until anti-botting measures are implemented you gotta take the good with the bad, mate. If and when.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:22 AM

Is bot a program that keep the utilizator to get away from his computer and let all the things do the work for him? like... he kills and kills and don't stop smashing other mobs? if so... just keep following one when you recognize one and keep his loot since they don't get them.. when it is good loot sure...
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:36 AM

Oh and lol the st pats hat wasn't changed because of bots :)
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

Is bot a program that keep the utilizator to get away from his computer and let all the things do the work for him? like... he kills and kills and don't stop smashing other mobs? if so... just keep following one when you recognize one and keep his loot since they don't get them.. when it is good loot sure...

Well, yes but no. You programme it to kill any mob, and they always collect the good loot. All of them are rogue 99, it's pretty easy to know if it's a bot because of the sprite (first hair syle and clothes) and also, they usually gear a Hat (the hat that you get from spores).

Oh and lol the st pats hat wasn't changed because of bots :)

Then why?
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:03 PM

Oh ppl farming mvp mobs and so forth it wasnt a bot problem put it that way. Bots generally kill 1 at a time and green ale drop wasnt that great that they would totally flood the market.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

the sadest thing its that even privat*s servers have better bot preveting system than iRO and kids that run it spend their free time fighting bots when employed ppl dont do it for work,
iam not talking about 500 ppl servers but 3000+ servers
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

the sadest thing its that even privat*s servers have better bot preveting system than iRO and kids that run it spend their free time fighting bots when employed ppl dont do it for work,
iam not talking about 500 ppl servers but 3000+ servers

No, in the most case it's because it's not worth botting pservers in the first place for those zeny selling sites compared to official servers.

It'd be a completely different story if said pservers were flooded with newly made bots every minute in comparison to official servers.

Edited by GuardianTK, 30 March 2012 - 12:33 PM.

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#11 Inubashiri

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:00 PM

Please don't discuss p.servers here.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:22 PM

The GMs don't care about the bots on Valkyrie server. Sad but true.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:27 PM

Just make a character on Ymir, thats what I did. Bot free over there.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

Yes, they choose to allow botting on Valkyrie server.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:40 PM

The GMs don't care about the bots on Valkyrie server. Sad but true.

Just removed several hundred right before today's maintenance. Send in a report if you see them.

The GM Team has to respond to a multitude of issues, so they put the priority on tickets, and do not have much time to do patrols. They must help people writing in for all of the games, VAS services, restorations, and account issues. Bot identification and removal is just one of these tasks. Sending in tickets will let bots be investigated in the proper order, so the GMs don't get swamped with other issues while wandering around maps.

Saying that Gravity allows botting is both incorrect and disrespectful to the work that the GMs do everyday.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

No, in the most case it's because it's not worth botting pservers in the first place for those zeny selling sites compared to official servers.

It'd be a completely different story if said pservers were flooded with newly made bots every minute in comparison to official servers.

i was not talking about spamming bot, but farming bots exist in every server, official or not, if you check-_- forums you can see some ppl are having problem connecting to privat* servers due to software that prevent bots like harmony.
iRO can probably buy a software to prevent bots like other online games, but they are too stingy
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

the sadest thing its that even privat*s servers have better bot preveting system than iRO and kids that run it spend their free time fighting bots when employed ppl dont do it for work,
iam not talking about 500 ppl servers but 3000+ servers

well u can make one and play with yourself there....or go back to one but don't diss the GM team cause they don't cater to you if something breaks you scream about it maybe next time you guys find a giltch to moan and whine about how bout they ban bots instead of fixing it or when the servers get ddosed they can just say ooh well i'm hunting bots for u.
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Posted 30 March 2012 - 02:29 PM

Yes, they choose to allow botting on Valkyrie server.


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