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[reaperhack]

i'm new here and i need to know which elemental converter is most sold out in the market. someone told me wind is the best while others said fire.
thanks for advance.

[Drifts]

Water and Fire are the most demanded (If there is any demand, ofc).

[Viri]

Wind is certainly the most demanded. Going to disagree with you. Fire is the least.

[Inubashiri]

Viri beat me to the punch but I also respectfully disagree about fire and water being the best.

Fire/Water is/are the worse by the following reasoning:

-Most wear valk shields (Source) reduce Fire/Water
-Everyone uses Fire armor now for the most part (Fire is out for that, Earth is -10% I believe)
-Waterdrop Brooches (Source)

Least affected one is wind. Water maybe next (some people use thunder proofs which would make Earth Better), Earth is a close second, then Fire probably.

This is assuming you intend to sell converters and not use them, I'm basing this on siege demands.

Edited by Inubashiri, 22 April 2012 - 06:03 AM.

[RennaSaintsworth]

PvM Purpose : All converters are useful. You need a right converter to kill different monster element. (Fire,Earth,Wind,Water)

WoE Purpose : Wind,Fire,Earth Converters. ( Arranged based on demands)

Usually i use Earth Converters for WoE O_o

Edited by RennaSaintsworth, 22 April 2012 - 05:57 AM.

[reaperhack]

oh, kk then.
i'll get some wind verdure.

[Inubashiri]

oh, kk then.
i'll get some wind verdure.

Wait, do you mean this or this?

[Tetsamaru]

O god....that would SUCK ASS if we needed to use wind of verdues(or any of the rough elemental stones) to make converters.........

[Rafa07]

for woe Wind converters and aspercio are the best endow, forget about fire/water

[RennaSaintsworth]

for woe Wind converters and aspercio are the best endow, forget about fire/water

Angeling Armor and Piety *cough cough*

[Rafa07]

Angeling Armor and Piety *cough cough*

how many ppl really uses angeling armor right now in woe? 2?
if you dont going to use aspercio because some ppl might have angeling card better not to use endow at all

Edited by Rafa07, 22 April 2012 - 07:00 AM.

[majorBoobage]

Here look at this:
http://www.ragmar.co...php?q=converter

At the bottom it lists total sales and zeny average:

Elemental Converter (Fire) 32862 8,885z
Elemental Converter (Water) 25848 8,710z
Elemental Converter (Wind) 44618 8,889z
Elemental Converter (Earth) 29039 8,494z

So to answer your question, wind and fire.

[RennaSaintsworth]

That's why i use Earth converter in WOE :3

[Rafa07]

That's why i use Earth converter in WOE :3

that makes no sense

a guy that uses angeling will have only 75% damage from earth element, same as for wind element but if you use wind element he can get frozen and you will have advantage and do 175% damage instead of 100% with earth element if you use holy element you will do 0%, fire armor and ghostring armor are the most common armor in woe, if you use earth you will do 90% to fire armor and 100% to ghost, if you use wind you can do 100% in both and if they get frozen you can even to more damage, if you are using holy element you will do 100% in both too

so resuming:

Wind>Holy=Dark>Poison>Earth>Water>Fire

[RennaSaintsworth]

Guess referring iROWiki is bad choice then for Elements. (And i kept using different elements in WoE, like Wind for Frozen target and Earth for non-frozen target )

Thanks anyway for the advise

Edited by RennaSaintsworth, 22 April 2012 - 08:10 AM.

[Riakuta]

that makes no sense

a guy that uses angeling will have only 75% damage from earth element, same as for wind element but if you use wind element he can get frozen and you will have advantage and do 175% damage instead of 100% with earth element if you use holy element you will do 0%, fire armor and ghostring armor are the most common armor in woe, if you use earth you will do 90% to fire armor and 100% to ghost, if you use wind you can do 100% in both and if they get frozen you can even to more damage, if you are using holy element you will do 100% in both too

so resuming:

Wind>Holy=Dark>Poison>Earth>Water>Fire

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Element

Holy will take 0% damage from Holy and 75% from Water, Fire, Earth & Wind.
Ghost only reduces the damage of Neutral to 70%.

The popular armors in WoE depend on the server.
Ymir - Undead/Shadow/Fire Property (Undead/Shadow to cancel out Guillotine Cross's Venom Impression/Fire to survive Tao Gunka Carded Dragon's Breath)
Ygg - Undead/Shadow/Wind Property (Undead/Shadow to cancel out Guillotine Cross's Venom Impression/Wind to take the least amound of damage from popular Scrolls)
Valk - (No idea - Only WoEd for three weeks at up to level 92 Knight before Renewal)

Edited by Riakuta, 22 April 2012 - 08:10 AM.

[aquaria]

If OP wanted to know this because he/she wants to sell converter.

Depends on what TI for the week. Best is make all 4 converter, if one sold out, just replace it.

[Rafa07]

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Element

Holy will take 0% damage from Holy and 75% from Water, Fire, Earth & Wind.
Ghost only reduces the damage of Neutral to 70%.

The popular armors in WoE depend on the server.
Ymir - Undead/Shadow/Fire Property (Undead/Shadow to cancel out Guillotine Cross's Venom Impression/Fire to survive Tao Gunka Carded Dragon's Breath)
Ygg - Undead/Shadow/Wind Property (Undead/Shadow to cancel out Guillotine Cross's Venom Impression/Wind to take the least amound of damage from popular Scrolls)
Valk - (No idea - Only WoEd for three weeks at up to level 92 Knight before Renewal)

if you read my post you saw that i told the same thing, just almost noone uses angeling in woe, people dont use evil druid like they use in pre-ren and if anyone uses it then he will receive alot more damage from Aspercio and fire, but fire its reduced by valk shield so it makes aspercio the best choice in this case.
i never saw anyone using angeling card in woe, i have one but only uses in especial cases not as much as i use fire/water
i usually see ppl dyeing from adoramus

i can only talk about Valk but there is nobody using wind armor in woe when it have alot of skills that will hurts you as DB and earthgrave

[GuardianTK]

People still use Asperio?

[meoryou2]

that makes no sense

a guy that uses angeling will have only 75% damage from earth element, same as for wind element but if you use wind element he can get frozen and you will have advantage and do 175% damage instead of 100% with earth element if you use holy element you will do 0%, fire armor and ghostring armor are the most common armor in woe, if you use earth you will do 90% to fire armor and 100% to ghost, if you use wind you can do 100% in both and if they get frozen you can even to more damage, if you are using holy element you will do 100% in both too

so resuming:

Wind>Holy=Dark>Poison>Earth>Water>Fire

Makes perfect sense on Ymir, especially in a precast type area. Since no one ( that I'm aware of anyways) has 100+ hard MDEF everyone dug out the old pre-RE unfrozen wind armors.

[TheSquishy]

If you want to make money selling convertors remember 3 things

-highest price doesn't mean you'll sell a lot of them
-demand changes based on TIs
-some items take waaaaaaaay longer to get than others.

People only buy a few when they are purchasing for WoE/PvP but when they are buying for leveling, they buy hundreds at a time and they generally buy water and fire.

[CeruleanGamer]

how many ppl really uses angeling armor right now in woe? 2?
if you dont going to use aspercio because some ppl might have angeling card better not to use endow at all

As a GX, after ctrl clicking several guys in WoE, about a 1/3 of them use Evil Druid armor instead of Unfrozen. It's so yummy eating them alive with fire converters. <3

[TheSquishy]

I think people don't know how to poke test others to determine their elemental weakness anymore.

Most people if you are hitting them with the right element and it's really hurting they are either gonna pot like a beast or make a run
for it.

[CeruleanGamer]

I think people don't know how to poke test others to determine their elemental weakness anymore.

Most people if you are hitting them with the right element and it's really hurting they are either gonna pot like a beast or make a run
for it.

I usually start with enchant poison before attack someone. If it's missing after 3 seconds, it means they have ED, and it's time to pull out those fire converts.

But what do you do against someone using Mastelas? xD

[TheSquishy]

But what do you do against someone using Mastelas? xD

If it's early WoE, make them burn as many as possible.