16 replies to this topic

[Chardane]

Does Binding Weapon work in PvP and on casters? Is it worth investing points on, is what I am asking.

thanks

[ThreeTimes6]

as long as the casters dont try to AA u its worthless ^^ - well i have it maxed out and instant (dna) since it works also nice in pvp against melee classes

edit : btw to make Binding weapon or Relapse Wound instant it only needs 5 dna pts each ^^

PvPvE build (debuff) ---> http://forums.warppo...build-dnaskill/

Edited by ThreeTimes6, 02 May 2012 - 09:48 AM.

[Chardane]

Thanks
So its only works on AA attacks. Does that mean it works on raid bosses?

Nice build. Mine I think will be similar just 1pt on VT, but first need a damn free reset XD

Edited by Chardane, 02 May 2012 - 01:37 PM.

[Lithi]

when I was playing domi sometimes I never noticed any difference in attack rates when i was using that skill. neither on mobs nor bosses. Its only useful for kicking buffs in my opinion ...

[ThreeTimes6]

nope it works nice but u can push it much more - simply try to use a lvl 4 or 5 Accuracy Double Down in ur weapon and try it with the double-debuff

Bind. Weapon at 10 takes 30% Accuracy, the enchant 2k - 2.5k more

the calculation of both debuffs in addition is as follows -->

(targets Accuracy - Enchant) / 1.3 (if bind. weapon is 30%) ^^

btw.: FIX the goddamn DNA already for bind. weapon !!!!! a debuff domi wants 53% accuracy debuff instead of 30% only ^^ ---> means I WANT IT (even when i dont play)

[Lithi]

nope it works nice but u can push it much more - simply try to use a lvl 4 or 5 Accuracy Double Down in ur weapon and try it with the double-debuff

Bind. Weapon at 10 takes 30% Accuracy, the enchant 2k - 2.5k more

the calculation of both debuffs in addition is as follows -->

(targets Accuracy - Enchant) / 1.3 (if bind. weapon is 30%) ^^

btw.: FIX the goddamn DNA already for bind. weapon !!!!! a debuff domi wants 53% accuracy debuff instead of 30% only ^^ ---> means I WANT IT (even when i dont play)

is shadow binding DNA not working ?

[ThreeTimes6]

sb dna always worked, but Bind. weapon dna doesnt

[Lithi]

sb dna always worked, but Bind. weapon dna doesnt

ah ye i meant bind weapon ofc; hm sux ...

but thx for letting me know

Edited by Lithi, 11 June 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[ThreeTimes6]

^^ thought so but couldn't resist to answer like that

yes I already sent a ticket long ago but since no-one really uses this debuff they don't care about a fix (it seems)...also it could be they want to avoid incoming QQ's by some melee-players - not sure ^^

[INeedANewName]

i could never rly use bw in pvp, but it was more than helpful soloing DS bosses
also it helps a bit weaker tanks with bosses

[Lithi]

seems likt they fixed binding wep with the skill patch. made some testing with my twink:

[INeedANewName]

well, atleast that's good news

[ThreeTimes6]

ohh so i have to check too - finally after almost 1 year then ^^

@INeedANewName - spend 5 pts in DNA to make BW instant and u'll love to debuff some of ur PvP enemies while u run through/around them ^^

Edited by ThreeTimes6, 13 June 2012 - 07:13 PM.

[ThreeTimes6]

well I tested it against some mobs, but still 30% only debuff

targets Accuracy before debuff : 3724
after debuff with 53% : 2606 <-- its still 69.92% left means 30% only
after debuff with 53% and Acc Double Down (lvl 5) --> 2500 Acc : 856 <-- not really sure about the math *lol* since every calculation i made wouldn't fit my results
normally it should be (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.3 --> 941 - calculated as follows (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.53 --> 800

WTF *lol* - we come closer to the needed result but why would the 53% only come up with the enchant ???

tested on 2nd target :

targets Accuracy before debuff : 3314
after debuff with 53% : 2320 <-- its still 70.00% left means 30% only
after debuff with 53% and Acc Double Down (lvl 5) --> 2500 Acc : 570 <-- not really sure about the math *lol* since every calculation i made wouldn't fit my results
normally it should be (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.3 --> 626 - calculated again with 53% (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.53 --> 532


however the -23% by DNA seems still not to work

would be nice to get the formula here and FINALLY A FIX, since I changed my DNA one more time only to test



edit : here are my skill related things and an example, just to proof (could be taken as bug report also but since the devs don't care about it..........)


the skill only (-30%)

the dna for it to push it up (-23%)

both in addition = -53%

so it means if i debuff my target it should loose 53% Accuracy - well now have a look at the next 3 pics



targets normal accuracy



debuffed with Bind. weapon only - WHERE THE HELL ARE MY 23% more debuff from the DNA ??



oO - what is that ?? my enchant came up (-2500 Accuracy) and suddenly it debuffs with ~53% or am I wrong ??
so it seems like some formula is missing - it seems to work with several accuracy debuffing enchants but as a stand-alone dna-pushed skill it doesn't... how much more proof do u need, Devs from Gravity to finally realize, its broken in that way ?!

Edited by ThreeTimes6, 13 June 2012 - 10:09 PM.

[Lithi]

well I tested it against some mobs, but still 30% only debuff

targets Accuracy before debuff : 3724
after debuff with 53% : 2606 <-- its still 69.92% left means 30% only
after debuff with 53% and Acc Double Down (lvl 5) --> 2500 Acc : 856 <-- not really sure about the math *lol* since every calculation i made wouldn't fit my results
normally it should be (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.3 --> 941 - calculated as follows (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.53 --> 800

WTF *lol* - we come closer to the needed result but why would the 53% only come up with the enchant ???

tested on 2nd target :

targets Accuracy before debuff : 3314
after debuff with 53% : 2320 <-- its still 70.00% left means 30% only
after debuff with 53% and Acc Double Down (lvl 5) --> 2500 Acc : 570 <-- not really sure about the math *lol* since every calculation i made wouldn't fit my results
normally it should be (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.3 --> 626 - calculated again with 53% (targets accuracy - 2500) / 1.53 --> 532


however the -23% by DNA seems still not to work

would be nice to get the formula here and FINALLY A FIX, since I changed my DNA one more time only to test



edit : here are my skill related things and an example, just to proof (could be taken as bug report also but since the devs don't care about it..........)


the skill only (-30%)

the dna for it to push it up (-23%)

both in addition = -53%

so it means if i debuff my target it should loose 53% Accuracy - well now have a look at the next 3 pics



targets normal accuracy



debuffed with Bind. weapon only - WHERE THE HELL ARE MY 23% more debuff from the DNA ??



oO - what is that ?? my enchant came up (-2500 Accuracy) and suddenly it debuffs with ~53% or am I wrong ??
so it seems like some formula is missing - it seems to work with several accuracy debuffing enchants but as a stand-alone dna-pushed skill it doesn't... how much more proof do u need, Devs from Gravity to finally realize, its broken in that way ?!

Hmmm. .. I didnt test it on mobs; i just tested it on another played thats where i got my numbers from . mb its just bugged for mobs?

[ThreeTimes6]

could be, yes - I think some formulas are missing

[INeedANewName]

oh dear xD