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#1 Capsiscool

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:23 PM

I was wondering what a cleric class is like.. or the class in general.. I know its all a matter of personal like ect. But honestly, I've played cleric's in almost all the mmo's I've downloaded and I'd like to see the interesting differences the class has to offer in Dragonica.
So, what I'd like to ask is.. generally speaking : If you are a Monk-Invoker, what do you like about the class, and why?
Doesn't matter what level you are.. any input would be nice. <3

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:37 PM

Basically, if you're gonna be an Invoker, grab yourself a turbo controller, program it to use your skills (X Spam/Random Heal/RoF and the Lightning Pillar) and grind your way to level 8x.
(Helpful Info; Heals are mostly useless in a team early game, dunno about late game dungeons, you'll spam X alot (no controller = fingers will hurt) there are some useful skills like for PvE [RoF/Light Pillar] and for PvP [Frog/Freeze/Magnet to catch people], it's a fun class if you can handle the X spamming but when you start stacking ASPD and C.DMG you'll enjoy the numbers going up (by numbers, I mean damage you deal [PvE/PvP]
EDIT: More useful skills you'll use in your Invoker path and explainations of other skills:
20-40
Casting Acceleration; Useful (I personally never used it) used to cast other skills faster like heals, etc.
Freeze and Frog; Catchers in PvP
RoF; High DMG skill for PvE: catch then RoF in PvP for optimal DMG
Heals; Useful to heal yourself, maybe others in some dungeons/mission maps
Resurrection; Revive someone that didn't pot fast enough in a boss battle
40-60
Double Cannon(buff, I think); shoot 2 fire balls very fast
Striking/Blessing; give more DMG/some buffs to your party members/yourself
Quagmire; Catcher for PvP and very useful in F7(takes away MSPD from monsters)
I can't remember anything else at the moment, will update later.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:18 PM

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Yeah, I'm mainly using her for duo farming atm.. the heals would be more support than anything.
How long have you played that class?
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

Yeah, I'm mainly using her for duo farming atm.. the heals would be more support than anything.
How long have you played that class?

Let's just say that I have some experience as an Invoker. Why do you ask?
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:38 PM

Let's just say that I have some experience as an Invoker. Why do you ask?

Seems more experienced players give the best advice, so I kinda figured from your insight you would be.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:47 PM

Seems more experienced players give the best advice, so I kinda figured from your insight you would be.

Well, thank you #1 If you still need help with the Invoker path feel free to ask (note that I cannot answer specific questions about skills as I am on my phone and I don't have acess to the skill simulator)
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:51 PM

Well, thank you #1 If you still need help with the Invoker path feel free to ask (note that I cannot answer specific questions about skills as I am on my phone and I don't have acess to the skill simulator)

How is the healing, and do they have decent health?
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:47 PM

How is the healing, and do they have decent health?

They can have high HP if you stack HLT on all your equips but other than that they have low-medium HP. As for the healings, they're not that good because (Instant Heal which you'll be using quite frequently) is based on ... let's just say that it would be better if it was based on a % because you could actually stack MP or HP (I forget which one) and it could heal more. Overall; the heals are good but could be better if they were based on % instead of a random number (HP/MP).
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:39 AM

Overall; the heals are good but could be better if they were based on % instead of a random number (HP/MP).

That's general, so is the class just completely nerfed or is the dps and tricks they have make it worth it?
What I mean is... hypothetically, lets just compare DS to another MMO I play.. In Aika, Clerics have no stuns.. it makes pvping hard, but heals can be boosted by %enchants and Set Heal Percentage xtals.. here Clerics have morphing skills and AOE stuns right? so even if they don't heal as well, they are still useful for their tricks?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:48 AM

PvE wise- Completely unkillable by any boss (and i mean any boss), they're heals are based on %s such as 50% of current health/max health etc etc, also they're DPS is completely reliant on X spamming, which is a good and bad thing.

PvP wise- If healing is allowed then you're not going to die ever, Invokers(4th job clerics) are they 2nd most annoying class to ever pvp against(assuming they have 10/10 barbarian), They can turn entire pvp matches with a single skill.

All in all. They're amazing at PvE and PvP
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:53 AM

PvE wise- Completely unkillable by any boss (and i mean any boss), they're heals are based on %s such as 50% of current health/max health etc etc, also they're DPS is completely reliant on X spamming, which is a good and bad thing.

PvP wise- If healing is allowed then you're not going to die ever, Invokers(4th job clerics) are they 2nd most annoying class to ever pvp against(assuming they have 10/10 barbarian), They can turn entire pvp matches with a single skill.

All in all. They're amazing at PvE and PvP

Are you sure of that? Or am I just mistaken; I'm not sure since it's been far too long since I've laid hands on my cleric.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:58 AM

Are you sure of that? Or am I just mistaken; I'm not sure since it's been far too long since I've laid hands on my cleric.

Instant Heal- 50% of the casters max hp
Slow Heal- 5% hp every 3 seconds for 30seconds
HP Restore- 75% of M.atk then same amount is restored every 5 seconds for 25 seconds
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:15 AM

just to add to storm's.

Wide Heal = 70% (i think) of caster's HP at lvl5

(it has cast time, but with casting acceleration, it (almost) instant
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:17 AM

Anyone who just X spams with an invoker is bad.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

Anyone who just X spams with an invoker is bad.

Because you have so MANY other skills to use.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:32 AM

All in all. They're amazing at PvE and PvP

#1, thank you for always keeping up to date on posts like this. Seems like almost every question I've asked has been replied to/solved/ ect. by you. I appreciate knowing this game has at least one active Mod. #2 Thank you for that information.. It appears the class will be more enjoyable to play than in Aika, I can't get enough as it is, and since I started my monk 2 days ago I've been hooked. So far the class is wonderful.

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One last Question, where can I find input on skill builds?
Or rather, can someone link me or send me to a guide?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:34 AM

Because you have so MANY other skills to use.


In PvE? Yeah, you do. Barb, frog, magnet, wraith, and let's not forget Spark. The invoker I play with uses spark more than X. Just because you don't have as many faceroll attack skills as pally doesn't mean you have to derp around and hit X until things die. Hell, I'd rather work lightning strike into a combo than use nothing but X spam.

Yes, you can just X spam until things die, but you'll probably end up being one of the morons that gets an invoker to 70 and says it's boring.

One last Question, where can I find input on skill builds?
Or rather, can someone link me or send me to a guide?


Didn't even look, did you? http://forums.warppo...ld-rate-please/

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:41 AM

PvE i generally just do Magnet+ Divine wrath on mobs once i got both the skills. Up till then i used Rain of Fire+ Xspam with spark rock thrown in there every now and then.
And yea clerics in Aika are pretty boring compared to ones in DS( I played for awhile as a riflemen and while friend played it as a cleric,she got super bored really fast)
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:47 AM

In PvE? Yeah, you do. Barb, frog, magnet, wraith, and let's not forget Spark. The invoker I play with uses spark more than X. Just because you don't have as many faceroll attack skills as pally doesn't mean you have to derp around and hit X until things die. Hell, I'd rather work lightning strike into a combo than use nothing but X spam.

Yes, you can just X spam until things die, but you'll probably end up being one of the morons that gets an invoker to 70 and says it's boring.



Didn't even look, did you? http://forums.warppo...ld-rate-please/

No my apologies, I never look on forums for builds because they are usually awful, mainstream, or out dated.
That's why I asked. I meant, is it even decent. Should have elaborated.

Also, in response to Storm. Aika is pretty decent, Cleric's usually quit because they can't take the crap. Plus the ones who do play are constantly at each others throats. In a open PvP game its all about skill, not about spamming. I was heal based, one of the best in my nation at the time. Probably still am but I barely play anymore since I found DS. Money usually isn't an option for me though, so that's basically why I was better.. Had the better set compared to most. The game is starting to get bad too, I hope DS doesn't give away +11 sets in events ._.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:52 AM

http://irowiki.org/~...001055131050503
my current invoker build
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:57 AM

http://irowiki.org/~...001055131050503
my current invoker build

Thanks, I'll bookmark this and look it over.
I don;t have anymore question's ^-^ I think I can pretty much figure the rest out now.
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