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#1 Jordys

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 05:05 AM

Ok, after a break for more then 1,5 years I returned to the World of Rose. Started on the new server so I could start al over again.

First thing I saw was 1 channel. I was used to 3, but ok, most of the time the channels collapsed and now I didnt had one major dc. So i understand that the other 2 channnels are gone.

The second thing that got my attention was the new AVP, I love the map, and with this change no harm was done.

After levelling to 80 like the good old days, my time for DoD came. I know DoD is PvP, and im not complaining about people over lvl200 there PK-ing all, but i do complain about the fact that a lvl 160 still gets good xp in de middle. I always thought that when mobs went blue, the xp dropped like hell.

After reading the forums again, I see the lvl strategie is changed alot. I even saw a guy telling he was in Dod from 75 untill 159 and only new the MC besides that. Is he playing Rose or is he just lvling a puppet? Does he know about the penguins? The butchers in Shady Jungle?

What is the reason for this game ruïning change? Why do we all need to be in dod, MC or prison to get some nice xp?
Even luring the gold Yetis isnt fun anymore just because a single pumpkin in dod brings in more xp.

Im over 120 now, and running around in Eldeon is useless for me. Why? Because that same stupid pumpkin in DoD still gives more xp.
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#2 poopiehead

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:13 AM

yup. rose lvling is screwed up. iuno why they even bother making the other maps
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 12:04 PM

how funny! i just made a thread related to this, join in! i would love to start a big discussion -_-

http://forums.warppo...the-game-share/
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 04:41 PM

Ok, after a break for more then 1,5 years I returned to the World of Rose. Started on the new server so I could start al over again.

First thing I saw was 1 channel. I was used to 3, but ok, most of the time the channels collapsed and now I didnt had one major dc. So i understand that the other 2 channnels are gone.

The second thing that got my attention was the new AVP, I love the map, and with this change no harm was done.

After levelling to 80 like the good old days, my time for DoD came. I know DoD is PvP, and im not complaining about people over lvl200 there PK-ing all, but i do complain about the fact that a lvl 160 still gets good xp in de middle. I always thought that when mobs went blue, the xp dropped like hell.

After reading the forums again, I see the lvl strategie is changed alot. I even saw a guy telling he was in Dod from 75 untill 159 and only new the MC besides that. Is he playing Rose or is he just lvling a puppet? Does he know about the penguins? The butchers in Shady Jungle?

What is the reason for this game ruïning change? Why do we all need to be in dod, MC or prison to get some nice xp?
Even luring the gold Yetis isnt fun anymore just because a single pumpkin in dod brings in more xp.

Im over 120 now, and running around in Eldeon is useless for me. Why? Because that same stupid pumpkin in DoD still gives more xp.


I was also around during the beta days and I feel your pain...

Remember when people actually went to faction wars?

Remember when Zant was actually full of stores?

Remember when the highest lvl in the game was a Dealer and he raped all at faction wars?

Remember when it was actually worth it to take down a Mamath in luna?

*sigh*
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 08:59 AM

I was also around during the beta days and I feel your pain...

Remember when people actually went to faction wars?

Remember when Zant was actually full of stores?

Remember when the highest lvl in the game was a Dealer and he raped all at faction wars?

Remember when it was actually worth it to take down a Mamath in luna?

*sigh*


There were no faction wars in beta. Unless by beta you really meant Irose.

And it isn't like people don't go to faction wars now. Hell if I log on, UW is pretty much the only thing I do.


To the OP: Believe it or not, leveling was even faster and easier than this just 10 months ago.
The map situation was a little better though (before like 160 at least). People didn't just lame 100 levels at dod.

Edited by BrownBear, 17 September 2010 - 09:01 AM.

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#6 Jordys

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 10:52 AM

Well, you are a familiar name BrownBear.

I know the FW. I stopped 1 month after the ruins got introduced, and yes you are correct about the fact that the Beta has no factionwars.

But what was the GM's reason to make the xp changes? I remember the time that a blue named mob was useless to attack because the xp dropped with 90% orso. And why no xp sharing in party? Why is the xp high for everyone and even higher for the attacker.

For example: me and my girl are only fighting when we are in a party. Im a cleric, she is a mage. She died more then me, but she is 2 lvls higher then me because she is the killer. What is the advantance to be a cleric then?

Btw. If a GM wants to explain there strategy why this changes have been done, I would love to read it.
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:03 PM

The exp changes were made to make us level slower. I wouldn't call it 100% successful. This lead to the party system also being changed, which managed to help them fix an exploit of it as well.
I do think it was a bad idea for them to basically have no drop in EXP for lower level monsters (relative to your level).

If they answer your question, they will most likely say something along the lines of, "the attacking player receives more exp because that player is doing more work". Again, that is probably what they have in mind, it is not my idea. Many people have asked for that aspect to be changed so that everyone gets the same exp.

We should all be happy that adding a player to your party doesn't reduce your exp at all though.
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#8 Silwok

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:17 PM

The exp changes were made to make us level slower. I wouldn't call it 100% successful. This lead to the party system also being changed, which managed to help them fix an exploit of it as well.
I do think it was a bad idea for them to basically have no drop in EXP for lower level monsters (relative to your level).

If they answer your question, they will most likely say something along the lines of, "the attacking player receives more exp because that player is doing more work". Again, that is probably what they have in mind, it is not my idea. Many people have asked for that aspect to be changed so that everyone gets the same exp.

We should all be happy that adding a player to your party doesn't reduce your exp at all though.

I think they need to change the exp you get from weaker monsters, you stop receiving drops if its grey they should do it with exp too, or have an IM item like medal of retreival for exp so warpportal might be able to make some $$$$ if people want to stay in dod for 100lvl's

And on the shared exp in party I prefer it being the way it is, kinda promotes people partying and making friends imo. But on the more exp for the attacker it seems fair at first the person doing most work gets more exp, but it isn't fair on a FS cleric. You can be in prison spamming heals/purify and end up doing more work than anyone in your party but still recieve the least exp >.<
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:21 PM

I think they need to change the exp you get from weaker monsters, you stop receiving drops if its grey they should do it with exp too, or have an IM item like medal of retreival for exp so warpportal might be able to make some $$$$ if people want to stay in dod for 100lvl's

And on the shared exp in party I prefer it being the way it is, kinda promotes people partying and making friends imo. But on the more exp for the attacker it seems fair at first the person doing most work gets more exp, but it isn't fair on a FS cleric. You can be in prison spamming heals/purify and end up doing more work than anyone in your party but still recieve the least exp >.<


IMO, clerics normaly do more work then any other class type.

Farthmore, its the most annoying class to lvl

BUFF PLZ

BUFF PLZ

BUFF PLZ

REBUFF PLZ

REBUFF PLZ
....

Most annoying is when your already buffing your party and someone in the party is asking for buffs (i've kicked someone for this before)
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 08:58 PM

Ok, after a break for more then 1,5 years I returned to the World of Rose. Started on the new server so I could start al over again.

First thing I saw was 1 channel. I was used to 3, but ok, most of the time the channels collapsed and now I didnt had one major dc. So i understand that the other 2 channnels are gone.

The second thing that got my attention was the new AVP, I love the map, and with this change no harm was done.

After levelling to 80 like the good old days, my time for DoD came. I know DoD is PvP, and im not complaining about people over lvl200 there PK-ing all, but i do complain about the fact that a lvl 160 still gets good xp in de middle. I always thought that when mobs went blue, the xp dropped like hell.

After reading the forums again, I see the lvl strategie is changed alot. I even saw a guy telling he was in Dod from 75 untill 159 and only new the MC besides that. Is he playing Rose or is he just lvling a puppet? Does he know about the penguins? The butchers in Shady Jungle?

What is the reason for this game ruïning change? Why do we all need to be in dod, MC or prison to get some nice xp?
Even luring the gold Yetis isnt fun anymore just because a single pumpkin in dod brings in more xp.

Im over 120 now, and running around in Eldeon is useless for me. Why? Because that same stupid pumpkin in DoD still gives more xp.



I just ran through Eldeon a few hours ago.

I saw two people.... I ran from starting town to prison. And I saw two people.

I remember on the beta where people had to get click bots in order to get into a channel.

Good 'ol days of ROSE.
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 10:38 PM

IMO, clerics normaly do more work then any other class type.

Farthmore, its the most annoying class to lvl

BUFF PLZ

BUFF PLZ

BUFF PLZ

REBUFF PLZ

REBUFF PLZ
....

Most annoying is when your already buffing your party and someone in the party is asking for buffs (i've kicked someone for this before)

lmao, i get that so much when im on my cleric...

A: buff
me: -ignores-
A: buff
A: buff
A: buff plz
me: -gives up and finally buffs him/her-
A: full buff
me: i dont have crit buff
A: full buff plz. why not
me: -ignores-
A: full buff me
me: ok, get in cart and get off so i can rebuff u from the beginning
A: -gets in cart, gets off of cart-
me: -leaves-

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 02:36 AM

lmao, i get that so much when im on my cleric...

A: buff
me: -ignores-
A: buff
A: buff
A: buff plz
me: -gives up and finally buffs him/her-
A: full buff
me: i dont have crit buff
A: full buff plz. why not
me: -ignores-
A: full buff me
me: ok, get in cart and get off so i can rebuff u from the beginning
A: -gets in cart, gets off of cart-
me: -leaves-

:wah:


o_0 ........ o_0 ........ ok you are allowed to take those people to dod and pk them endlessly, I trully hate such people and they get a swift ignore/ no buffs
they dont read/listen but live in their own little world

Edited by Logi, 18 September 2010 - 02:37 AM.

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