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#1 SirDouglas

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

https://docs.google....U_yowFbzEh5n3I4

working as intended?

Edited by SirDouglas, 31 May 2012 - 09:32 AM.

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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:12 AM

Huh?

I see no mention of shield spell breaking armor in the document you linked. Please provide further explanation.
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:22 AM

The Balance Patch updates show no mention of Armor Break with Shield Spell 3. Prior to Balance Patches, Shield Spell 3 offers a 100% Armor Break chance with any Physical Attack the RG performs on another person. Unless they have FCP, of course.

It seems the question being asked here is whether the 100% Armor Break chance was supposed to stay in after the Balance Patches or not, because there's no mention of it on the Balance Patch formula for Shield Spell 3. And yet we still see RG's and/or SC's who've copied Shield Spell 3 breaking armor at 100% chance with Shield Spell 3's effect just like Pre-Balance Patches.

Personally I think it's pretty bull crap to allow a class to break even any kind of gear at a 100% rate.


TLDR: Is the Shield Spell 3 effect for breaking people's armor at 100% chance intentional or not for post-Balance Patch?

Edited by GuardianTK, 01 June 2012 - 11:23 AM.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:30 AM

Aaha, thanks for the information!

So that's what keeps breaking my mora set!

I'd also like to know if this is intended. I hope it's not, and will be fixed.
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:35 AM

Success rate = 5%*(shield refine)
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:15 AM

Success rate = 5%*(shield refine)

I don't see this on the Balance Patch notes anywhere.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:55 PM

It's 100%. Tested it and every time the RG attacked me under this effect, it broke all my armors except Valk armor of course. :(

I think it works with reflect too which is even scarier.... :o

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 03 June 2012 - 05:55 PM.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:04 PM

the armor breaking was supposed to be taken out during rebalancing... rediculously broken as its on hit, so RD always gives it an aoe chance pretty much guarenteed

this used to piss me off all the time on chaser when i wasnt full chemed... as rgs would just run in and break everyones armor... ontop of always gettin ppa'd too, so alot of times id lose my gr and shield and wonder why i get oneshotted by gfist/goh
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:16 PM

That's why you don't card GR on anything other than Valk Armor.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:54 PM

Why does it matter? If it's not RG, it's going to be an RK with a mailbreaker, a SC with a mailbreaker, a Gen, a Mech, etc.

There are so many classes / skills that break gear anymore that the simple solution is to just not have gear that can break. =/

Sure, remove it though, I'd like to use my +120 Attack buff from SS1. =)

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It does not work with Reflect, BTW, but any other AoE will do. Moonslasher, Overbrand, etc.

Edited by Ralis, 03 June 2012 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:17 PM

Why does it matter? If it's not RG, it's going to be an RK with a mailbreaker, a SC with a mailbreaker, a Gen, a Mech, etc.

There are so many classes / skills that break gear anymore that the simple solution is to just not have gear that can break. =/

Sure, remove it though, I'd like to use my +120 Attack buff from SS1. =)

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It does not work with Reflect, BTW, but any other AoE will do. Moonslasher, Overbrand, etc.

5% with a Mailbreaker is not as brokenly powerful compared to 100%, Ralis. Good god. Even 50% is already high enough with PPA for any other gear. Only RG's can wear a viable unbreakable shield compared to all other classes.

As you say it yourself, you can even use something like Overbrand. Although Dragon Breath is a large AoE, a mailbreaker's 5% chance isn't going to affect everyone that gets hit by it immediately. An Overbrand with its kind of radius is going to break several people's armors all at once without fail.

Unless you can tell me a hax method to make my Glorious Suit(An unslotted armor that determines a lot of my survival in WoE) unbreakable without 24/7 FCP.

Edited by GuardianTK, 03 June 2012 - 08:19 PM.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:41 PM

For 5% it sure seemed to work a lot when I was wearing breakable stuff. xD

Like I said though, go ahead and remove it.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:06 AM

what the gms/dev team will do about it?
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:25 AM

what the gms/dev team will do about it?

One of them will review this issue and see if it is a confirmed bug after contacting kRO. From there we request a "fix." As for how long it would take for the fix and whether we'll even know if we're getting it through some ninja patch from kRO, nobody knows.

Edited by GuardianTK, 04 June 2012 - 10:25 AM.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:43 AM

This bug still exists. Nobody did anything or gave explanations.

Edited by SirDouglas, 02 September 2012 - 07:48 AM.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:20 PM

lol. quit complaining and move on
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

This still has yet to be moved to confirmed bugs or at least given a decent answer?
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

It was fixed in kRO just recently.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:29 PM

Update our SS3 this is insane
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:19 AM

Okay, I'll move it to confirmed bugs, despite the fact that all we can do is wait for the patch that fixes it to arrive, since the bug is known and has been fixed on kRO.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:03 AM

Slight bump, anyone know WHEN this was fixed? Approximately of course, at least between what 2 major patches.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

Just make an FCP slave.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

Done and done doesn't mean that 100% success on breaking armor isn't dumb. Sitting on 2500 coats, perma coated 24/7 but that doesn't mean everyone is
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