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[DrAzzy]

Splendide Field 2 (the one just outside of new world) has (it feels like) far fewer pingiculas than it should, and has a fairly high number of Nagas and Bradium Golems that have 99 auras, don't use skills, and have higher max HP than the normal monsters. They are considerably more powerful than the other monsters on the map, and other sites say that the map is supposed to have pingiculas and luciola vespas (which are around the same level and of similar power, unlike pre-renewal). Perhapse they're supposed to be the quest-linked monsters for the Report from the New World quest, but are summoning the wrong monsters?

[Stalkerness]

The bradium's and naga's are for the warlock job change quest. You're given two accessories to equip, each causes a 0.7% drop from one of the monsters (and these are new monster IDs), and you need 1 of each drop for the quest.

[Akihiro]

Yeahh, the nagas and bradium golems on that map are much weaker than the actual ones. Learned that the hard way.

[Chaiso]

The Naga on that map does actually use Ganbantein as I learned trying to VFW it >.>. I understand that these special ones are needed for the Warlock job change but they are annoying (Naga especially) to people who would be trying to level by killing the Pingiculas. Perhaps while wearing both of the accessorys the NPC that takes you into the map can take you to a special quest map that has the monsters and they can be removed from the ordinary map.

Edited by Chaiso, 01 October 2010 - 06:47 PM.

[DrAzzy]

The Naga on that map does actually usually Ganbantein as I learned trying to VFW it >.>. I understand that these special ones are needed for the Warlock job change but they are annoying (Naga especially) to people who would be trying to level by killing the Pingiculas. Perhaps while wearing both of the accessorys the NPC that takes you into the map can take you to a special quest map that has the monsters and they can be removed from the ordinary map.

Indeed, i'd like that too.

It feels like they reduced the spawn of pingiculas (which are good to leevel on and will be good to level on in renewal), and put in these really obnoxious monsters instead.

And the nagas are NOT easier than the normal ones. They don't spam skills, but they have so damned much hp.
You effectively cannot use that map for leveling (especially since, it appears, they don't drop anything, and I'll venture a guess that they don't give exp either).

Edited by DrAzzy, 01 October 2010 - 07:55 AM.

[Miyuki]

I think they may have dropped me an Elder Branch when I was helping my friend on the Warlock quest? Not sure if it was really them, though.

[DrAzzy]

I think they may have dropped me an Elder Branch when I was helping my friend on the Warlock quest? Not sure if it was really them, though.

No, that was the normal spawn. Pingers drop them at a high rate.

[DrAzzy]

Could we possibly make the quest monsters there non-aggressive, so they wouldn't disturb other people leveling there? (this would require removing the AI change skill from the golems). The monsters are different race from everything else, have more hp, and are more painful.

[TwilightsCall]

I always thought it was odd that the level 99 nagas were ridiculously stronger then the level 117 nagas.

I dunno, either the nagas and bradium golems need to be toned down, moved to another map, or like Azzy suggested make them non-aggressive. The number of them there is ridiculous, though I can see why considering the warlock job change quest has such a low chance to get what they need...but adding such a large number of quest monsters that are so much stronger then the natural spawn just ruins the map completely, especially since the map will probably be a very popular place to hunt (good exp and some nice/some staple drops).

As for the number of pings on the map being low, I always found, even in pre-re, that the number of pings on the map was disappointingly low. I didn't notice a real difference in the spawn amount between Ymir and Ygg, but I don't go there very often so I could be mistaken. The map could certainly use a boost to the ping spawn rate though.

[DrAzzy]

I always thought it was odd that the level 99 nagas were ridiculously stronger then the level 117 nagas.

I dunno, either the nagas and bradium golems need to be toned down, moved to another map, or like Azzy suggested make them non-aggressive. The number of them there is ridiculous, though I can see why considering the warlock job change quest has such a low chance to get what they need...but adding such a large number of quest monsters that are so much stronger then the natural spawn just ruins the map completely, especially since the map will probably be a very popular place to hunt (good exp and some nice/some staple drops).

As for the number of pings on the map being low, I always found, even in pre-re, that the number of pings on the map was disappointingly low. I didn't notice a real difference in the spawn amount between Ymir and Ygg, but I don't go there very often so I could be mistaken. The map could certainly use a boost to the ping spawn rate though.

Yeah, ping spawn was always annoyingly low, but it seems worse in renewal. I was there alot on ymir (95-98 rogue 80-91 stalker), though I havn't tested it that extensively on Ygg.

And... the 99 nagas are more painful numerically, but they don't do waterball.

[TwilightsCall]

I always killed the normal Nagas before they used skills, so that might make me a little biased lol

[Haldor]

Bump. The Naga's/Golem's are really annoying. They should at least give exp if you're gonna have so many on the map.

The Ping count on the map definitely seems lower to me. They probably reduced the Ping count to add the stupid quest monsters.

Also, aren't Vespas supposed to be only aggressive to players below level 99? Or did this change with renewal?(intentionally) They are aggressive to my 101 ranger.

[Doddler]

I think a reasonable compromise would be to give those naga's and bradium golems experience. They already have drops, and they are a regular part of the map spawn. I only really dislike them because there's no value in killing them.

Haldor: They aggro anyone that is more than 5 levels below their level. This means that you need to be 104 to be safe.

Edited by Doddler, 28 October 2010 - 07:19 AM.

[lemon]

Bump~

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