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Why does it work that way lol?
Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:23 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:28 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:34 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:05 AM
It's messed up that first hit gets loot priority even if you out comp then and get the MVP.
Why does it work that way lol?
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:10 AM
It's there on purpose otherwise you will have random suras showing up, fisting it once, then picking up loot. This makes it a more even odds for other classes.
Edited by Alyst, 27 July 2011 - 10:26 AM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:20 AM
But I can just now make any character and comp any high tier mvp by just tapping it before they do. Pref genetic or just speed pot to an mvp whack it and wait for my competition to kill it then loot and win.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:35 AM
Getting first hit doesn't give you auto-loot, it just gives you a high priority. If someone does 90% dmg they will still get first priority. I don't know the exact damage someone needs to do to get loot priority over the first hit.
And why are you pretending like this is new. It has been like this for what 10 years now?
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:42 AM
Edited by Ralis, 27 July 2011 - 10:43 AM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:43 AM
Doing 90% of the damage will not entitle you to the loot priority. I've seen mvps like beez where my group has been on it within 10 seconds after it spawns, and my competition has been on it for less then 5-6 seconds and they still get loot priority. I'd like to mention that my group also does twice the damage of their only DBing RK in this scenario.
I'm just wondering why the mvp system as a whole hasn't been looked at, it is a dps race not a I tapped it first I win. If Gfist is the problem just make them more party oriented. Increase the HP pools, give them an additional say 10%~15% resistance to neutral and call it a day. I'm just tired of me and my friends getting out comped by one guy who just happened to tap it first.
And on another note I'd like to add that convex mirrors didn't help this situation. Not to mention the fact that even tho they are removed some guilds have stock piles of about 1000~ boxes last I checked. Imo we should have an npc that would let us exchange them for other kp items of equal value.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:44 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:46 AM
MVP Priority = Damage Dealt + Damage Received
Loot Priority = Damage Dealt x 2 for first hit
If you get to an MVP and do 200k to an MVP with 500k and someone else does 300k, you'll get loot.
This is primarily in place so that someone won't be working an MVP and have some Sura come along and GFist it towards the end and get loot.
Edited by Alyst, 27 July 2011 - 10:51 AM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:49 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:00 AM
My own testing and experience, mostly. I can't guarantee they're right, but I have tested with friends on things like Amon Ra, Orc Hero, etc, and those are the formulas I found.
Edited by Alyst, 27 July 2011 - 11:02 AM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:02 AM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:05 AM
I do agree, MVPs are far too easy.
MVPs with more HP it just seems that way because you have to do so much more damage to get the loot.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:43 AM
It's there on purpose otherwise you will have random suras showing up, fisting it once, then picking up loot. This makes it a more even odds for other classes.
Getting first hit doesn't give you auto-loot, it just gives you a high priority. If someone does 90% dmg they will still get first priority. I don't know the exact damage someone needs to do to get loot priority over the first hit.
And why are you pretending like this is new. It has been like this for what 10 years now?
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:12 PM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:16 PM
Edited by Xellie, 27 July 2011 - 12:20 PM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:18 PM
I liked it in the old days where a pure MVP monk was a hard thing to level so you deserved that damage. :<
That at least made it somewhat fair.
Slightly on topic I guess but not really on topic.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:21 PM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:29 PM
AND YOU FREAKIN ENJOYED IT
Posted 27 July 2011 - 12:54 PM
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:23 PM
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