Does alice's reduction count in the race bracket?
MVP's Earthquake
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:15 AM
No, boss is a type.
There's a type of reduction that is "Normal monster", "Boss", or "guardian" all monsters are 1 of those types on top of other things.
There's a type of reduction that is "Normal monster", "Boss", or "guardian" all monsters are 1 of those types on top of other things.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:24 AM
@Viri: From irowiki page http://irowiki.org/wiki/Attack the reduction formula is (1-SizeReductionsTotal/100) * (1-RaceReductionsTotal/100) * (1-ElementReductionsTotal/100) * (1+SpecialReductionsTotal/100). So alice is under special reduction?
@Kirisaki: the following is quoted from doddler from irowiki forum: (not sure if the info is up to date though)
"What does earthquake really do? Earthquake is an attack that hits all players in a 31x31 radius around the boss monster. Its attack power is based on the bosses physical attack, but is considered a neutral element magical attack. It does three hits in rapid succession for high damage. The total damage of earthquake is split depending on the number of people hit. If there are 10 players on screen, it will do 1/10th the damage to everyone. The damage can be reduced with racial shield, immune garment, magic defence equipment, ghostring armor, and negated with golden thiefbug. As shown above if you are far enough from the monster ranged damage resistance may also help. The attack is considered a self targeted blast skill, and cannot be blocked by any defensive magic (safety wall, pneuma, magnetic earth). In terms of behavior, its like a really really big fireball spell. It probably requires LoS of the target for you to take damage but I'm not certain on that."
Here's doddler's EQ calculator, and you see the range is a factor. (again, not sure how updated it is)
http://rode.doddlerc...uake/eqcalc.php
@Kirisaki: the following is quoted from doddler from irowiki forum: (not sure if the info is up to date though)
"What does earthquake really do? Earthquake is an attack that hits all players in a 31x31 radius around the boss monster. Its attack power is based on the bosses physical attack, but is considered a neutral element magical attack. It does three hits in rapid succession for high damage. The total damage of earthquake is split depending on the number of people hit. If there are 10 players on screen, it will do 1/10th the damage to everyone. The damage can be reduced with racial shield, immune garment, magic defence equipment, ghostring armor, and negated with golden thiefbug. As shown above if you are far enough from the monster ranged damage resistance may also help. The attack is considered a self targeted blast skill, and cannot be blocked by any defensive magic (safety wall, pneuma, magnetic earth). In terms of behavior, its like a really really big fireball spell. It probably requires LoS of the target for you to take damage but I'm not certain on that."
Here's doddler's EQ calculator, and you see the range is a factor. (again, not sure how updated it is)
http://rode.doddlerc...uake/eqcalc.php
Edited by Phantaminum, 01 May 2013 - 06:33 AM.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:26 AM
That's not accurate. It's just like reductions stack and "boss" reduction is it's own reduction type. Otherwise it'd stack with "ranged" reduction which is not element/race/size but also seperate.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:37 AM
I believe you have to be 5 cells from the MvP for Ranged to work? As far as Classic goes, reducing EQ would be the Tank with Boss reductions, and everyone else using Horn + Noxious + 2x Alligators + Long Mace (if they can).
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:38 AM
I believe you have to be 5 cells from the MvP for Ranged to work? As far as Classic goes, reducing EQ would be the Tank with Boss reductions, and everyone else using Horn + Noxious + 2x Alligators + Long Mace (if they can).
I think it's 4, depending on how you count... I think it's 3 cells in between so the 4th cell. standing away diagonally is dumb for this reason.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:40 AM
I think it's 4, depending on how you count... I think it's 3 cells in between so the 4th cell. standing away diagonally is dumb for this reason.
I was indexing the Boss as 1 for some reason. But yeah, I don't really trust where an MvP is standing anyways, so I'll just go with "far away".
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:42 AM
FINE. lmao Also buys you a little more time if you spam click too fast and start wandering AT the mvp at a bad time. Linker teams make mvps(esp in ET) a million times easier too between kaizel and kaupe. You can actually block 2 EQ waves(3 sometimes even) on the tank if you time kaupe.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:44 AM
Does Cicada Skin Shed block all 3 hits? Cause ninja tank time.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:46 AM
It's magic so I don't think it blocks it at all.
Maya(and similar effects) reflects it ;D
Maya(and similar effects) reflects it ;D
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:47 AM
Oh boooring. I knew about Maya, used to do Randgris with Andy on Iris/Ymir with his stupid +10 Frus Armor and Maya Shield and just KS everyone. Then they started Ice Walling us out. qq.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:48 AM
AWW YEAH ANDY. I miss andy/nick/josh. APPARENTLY PYRO PLAYS LEAGUE THOUGH.
Eske that ho and watch her 1 shot herself was beautiful.
Eske that ho and watch her 1 shot herself was beautiful.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:50 AM
It's magic so I don't think it blocks it at all.
Maya(and similar effects) reflects it ;D
Whoahhhh wait
So you're saying
If I use a maya shield on a lv1 noob character who had all these stuff to increase damage FROM boss (like lex? but dunno how to put on it, or does kaite increase it?) you can potentially kill it w/ ppl reviving you far away?
I mean not sure how much it'll do to a lv1 noob character..100-300k?
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:52 AM
Whoahhhh wait
So you're saying
If I use a maya shield on a lv1 noob character who had all these stuff to increase damage FROM boss (like lex? but dunno how to put on it, or does kaite increase it?) you can potentially kill it w/ ppl reviving you far away?
I mean not sure how much it'll do to a lv1 noob character..100-300k?
BG Set with high refined armor with Frus + Strong Shield + Maya + Cat o' Ninetails
You could use Orleans Server but the 20% damage boost from Strong Shield is... better imo.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:54 AM
kaite won't,eske will.Whoahhhh wait
So you're saying
If I use a maya shield on a lv1 noob character who had all these stuff to increase damage FROM boss (like lex? but dunno how to put on it, or does kaite increase it?) you can potentially kill it w/ ppl reviving you far away?
I mean not sure how much it'll do to a lv1 noob character..100-300k?
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:55 AM
Whoahhhh wait
So you're saying
If I use a maya shield on a lv1 noob character who had all these stuff to increase damage FROM boss (like lex? but dunno how to put on it, or does kaite increase it?) you can potentially kill it w/ ppl reviving you far away?
I mean not sure how much it'll do to a lv1 noob character..100-300k?
Eske the mvp, doubt kaite in renewal boosts it(def doesn't in pre renewal) I forget if lex amps the reflect, I don't think it does. BG set 100% high + armor with frus card/cat o nine tails shoes. You can do this on any character that can wear BG set yes. So like a level 80 swordsman or w/e lol. Trans just makes more sense cuz of orleans server.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:07 AM
I don't think he meant lexing the mvp, but I don't know you can get self-lexed. It's not an efficient or reliable way, even less so than reflect killing.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:15 AM
Oooh wow that sounds fun lol
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:49 AM
Yes that's accurate. I read something wrong in your post.@Kirisaki: the following is quoted from doddler from irowiki forum: (not sure if the info is up to date though)
Spoiler
Too bad Eucharistica and a few newer items are missing from the calculator.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:10 AM
A little off topic, but I've always known that Hell's Judgement is like EQ in that you have to stand a certain distance away from the MVP for it to be considered a long-ranged attack. How many cells away from the MVP is it exactly for Hell's Judgement to be considered Pneuma-able? I mostly only told people to stay at least 7 cells away from the MVP for it to be blocked by Pneuma.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:11 AM
No it's the same, 4.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:14 AM
Well now I know for sure without having to experiment. xD
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:02 PM
Common said phrase in an et with me in it: "Neutral Barrier is a lie!!!"
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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:47 AM
This is very interesting information...
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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:17 AM
wait so some people said that EQ is reduced by DR but i thought that in Renewal DR doesnt reduce it but GR does. Is this true?
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