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if they really change the def thing, i will say R.I.P to the job of knights, how to tank if your def is destroyed -.-

Cause he didn't play back when those reps were decided (or just started, according to his forum profile at least).
Already made a post about it in the rep section of the forums, and with how many people (don't) support this defense change it'll probably get scrapped.

Na, if the DEV Team and/or Leo want to push it, there is nothing you can do, regardless of its support or its popularity. It is not democracy.

Edited by ChampPower, 25 November 2014 - 03:33 AM.

Na, if the DEV Team and/or Leo want to push it, there is nothing you can do, regardless of its support or its popularity.

 

All will quit if they change that defense thing being half. I died with just a few aoes haha. Imagine that in cd. Not in support of the defense of all class being halved!

Na, if the DEV Team and/or Leo want to push it, there is nothing you can do, regardless of its support or its popularity. It is not democracy.

 

Please be aware that this latest build has some changes to the defense formula, in how it calculates damage reduction as well as a storage feature we're testing somewhat internally. While you should not (hopefully) notice any issues with storage through normal means, please let me know if you encounter any issues with using your storage.

 

The quick question over what was changed with the defense formula, was the scale was shifted so the values don't ramp up in reduction as quickly, resulting in a reduction in the damage reduction scale per defense value. This is purely a test at this stage and feedback would be appreciated.

 

I will admit, it is not close to what I would like to see, but we wanted to give it a rough test just to see how dramatic a difference it would be based on how some numbers looked on paper.

If you would just read properly, you would notice that Leonis describes it as a 'rough test', meaning he has no intention of pushing it at all. It's a test, people test it, they say it really can't go through cause the change is too massive, and it doesn't happen. It's as simple as that.

If you would just read properly, you would notice that Leonis describes it as a 'rough test', meaning he has no intention of pushing it at all. It's a test, people test it, they say it really can't go through cause the change is too massive, and it doesn't happen. It's as simple as that.

 

yay for jerremy

Which all the more proves you like switching to a class that is good in your opinion. I dont know maybe if you really like the cleric class, maybe try sticking to it and prove that even if they are underpowered in your eyes you can prove to others you can still excel the most. Break the cycle of other people only playing the good classes. If you can be a role model, all will follow. But of course its still your choice so I cant stop you from playing your raider. I wish you good luck in that class as it seemed so strong based on the way you describe it. Like i said before no matter what buff or nerf to a class, nothing is permanent as the only constant is change

I have played every class, but my favor is always the cleric because I like to help out other players, but that does not mean I will let anyone push me around, both in life and in game. You said, "maybe try sticking to it and prove that even if they are underpowered in your eyes you can prove to others you can still excel the most". Why would I play the underpowered class but not the equal-powered class? So I can have something to blame on when I lose? That is just an excuse to run away from the problem. If you want to take that excuse, you can take it because I will not do so. I had cared for the cleric class long enough. I had cared for the new players long enough. It is time to look after my own interests. If the cleric class dies, so be it. If the new players cannot compete and quit, so be it. Who would care, right?

If you would just read properly, you would notice that Leonis describes it as a 'rough test', meaning he has no intention of pushing it at all. It's a test, people test it, they say it really can't go through cause the change is too massive, and it doesn't happen. It's as simple as that.

I did not say he would push it. I was only saying that if the DEV Team and/or Leo want to push it, there is nothing you can do because it is not democracy.

I have played every class, but my favor is always the cleric because I like to help out other players, but that does not mean I will let anyone push me around, both in life and in game. You said, "maybe try sticking to it and prove that even if they are underpowered in your eyes you can prove to others you can still excel the most". Why would I play the underpowered class but not the equal-powered class? So I can have something to blame on when I lose? That is just an excuse to run away from the problem. If you want to take that excuse, you can take it because I will not do so. I had cared for the cleric class long enough. I had cared for the new players long enough. It is time to look after my own interests. If the cleric class dies, so be it. If the new players cannot compete and quit, so be it. Who would care, right?

 

 

I have played every class, but my favor is always the cleric because I like to help out other players

 

What is the correlation of you saying your helping out other players by making the clerics stronger? So if block rate of clerics increases it helps other players? I think you can help players as a cleric by offering to buff them. Seems vague to me. Don't really want to argue champ but you make it sound so noble but there is some hidden agenda somewhere. Im sure the community thanks you for looking out for them and I also thank you for looking out for me.

 

Um why not play the underpowered class because you love it? If you are so noble, bent on helping people, you shouldn't stop playing cleric even its weak in your eyes. I know a lot of clerics that are really good and even with the changes I know they will continue to be

 

"So I can have something to blame on when I lose"

You sound aggressive champ, looks like your not out to help others but want to win. The first reason you should think of if you are playing an underpowered class and not the equally powered is because you have an undying love for it, not as an excuse. This statement you have gives off an aura that ur agenda is more on pvp though.

Wow you sure know your stuff mongetet. Why are you not in the class representatives? I hope they fix that change in the defense on pegasus  its so annoying. I die so fast
 

 

Actually I played for years already, just wasn't active on forum because of busy life but now I'm the master of my time again, finished school already

I have played every class, but my favor is always the cleric because I like to help out other players

What is the correlation of you saying your helping out other players by making the clerics stronger? So if block rate of clerics increases it helps other players? I think you can help players as a cleric by offering to buff them. Seems vague to me. Don't really want to argue champ but you make it sound so noble but there is some hidden agenda somewhere. Im sure the community thanks you for looking out for them and I also thank you for looking out for me.

Um why not play the underpowered class because you love it? If you are so noble, bent on helping people, you shouldn't stop playing cleric even its weak in your eyes. I know a lot of clerics that are really good and even with the changes I know they will continue to be

"So I can have something to blame on when I lose"
You sound aggressive champ, looks like your not out to help others but want to win. The first reason you should think of if you are playing an underpowered class and not the equally powered is because you have an undying love for it, not as an excuse. This statement you have gives off an aura that ur agenda is more on pvp though.

Playing the cleric has a lot of rewards, especially in term of emotion. I can help buffing people, and I can help people with other thing. But you are right. Making the cleric stronger has nothing to do with helping other because if your cleric cannot survive, then talking about helping others will be pointless. In worst case of the senerios, you would become a death weight for the others.

Beside playing the cleric, I was also looking out for the new players by fighting for what I thought was not fair to them. I will not explain in details of those because I have enough of locked already. You sound like you know a lot about this game, but do you have the courage to fight for them? You may know more about DEV Team, about Leo, and about the community during the process. However, the first question is always, "Do you have the courage to fight for them,(regardless of whom you have to fight, such as Leo DEV Team, the community, and others)?"

Lastly, you accuse me of being aggressive, and my motive is to win. Yes, I am aggressive, but my motive is to survive. The full supportive cleric has absolutely no offensive power, so it would never win. The best it can do is to survive. If it cannot survive, then what's good for anyone to play it? The cleric would become a death weight. Your argument can be understood as, "it is ok to lose because the class is underpowered." I cannot settle with that argument because a player should lose or win based on his or her skill, and nothing else should be involved. To have that, we have to play on equal footing, and one side beating is not the equal footing. However, if that is what the community and the DEV Team want, then I rather be the player who do the beating and let the cleric class dies

Edited by ChampPower, 25 November 2014 - 09:10 AM.

pegasus was fun BCs and mages can kill FS so fast lol... more nerf pls

Thanks everyone. It seems no one read this important fact I put up when I announced the latest change to Pegasus.

I will admit, it is not close to what I would like to see, but we wanted to give it a rough test just to see how dramatic a difference it would be based on how some numbers looked on paper.

 

This is Pegasus, a test server, we're testing things, trying them out, seeing how they work, looking to make adjustments, feeling things out, testing, testing, testing. None of this is guaranteed to reach the live server.

 

So to any of you who might be posting "zomg its teh end of de wurld!" or likewise posts thinking Pegasus is the end all:

 

Pegasus is a test server. We are testing things out. The Class Reps have been pretty vocal about the changes, and we're all working on them together so when we're done, it accomplishes the needs we have as the developers, and that of the community from feeling like things were unfairly changed.

 

We are going to continue working on it until we reach that point. We can only hope it comes sooner than later. But it will take as long as it will take.

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

 

 

 

And I still have no acess to Pesagus. Where do I download it?    And I have to ask, are the rates at Pegasus the same as Leonis/Draco or higher to lvl fast, get things fast and then... TEST everything?

 

 

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

PEGAUS IS A TEST SERVER

 

 

 

And I still have no acess to Pesagus. Where do I download it?    And I have to ask, are the rates at Pegasus the same as Leonis/Draco or higher to lvl fast, get things fast and then... TEST everything?

 

Here is the link to download Pagasus  http://forums.warppo...-pegasus-today/  The rates are the same as the live servers. The data used on Pegasus is taken from the live servers and the level your character is at that point in time will be the level you are on the test server.  I believe that Pegasus was just updated and is now using Leonis data so if you mainly play on Leonis, now would be a great time for you to do some testing. 

so we just test and not voice our opinions in forums? oh wait the draco peeps didnt say anything since they were the first ones to try pegasus first..

 

GG draconians for staying quiet and leonis people just whines

Edited by kwayan19, 25 November 2014 - 10:56 AM.

so we just test not voice our opinions in forums?

 

No negative opinions and "omg" what they did to my champ. HELLL, its the end of the game.

Since it's only a test server and as Leo mentioned, it doesn't mean that ANY of the things did at PEgasus will come to the live servers. So, you are afree to positivie point positive and negative points you found at some point;

 

 

"Hey i have tested the champ and I disagree with the idea of  "example", I believe doing "this way" would be better." <~SHould be the right way.

 

"WTF!!! Are you insane, what did you want to do with the champs? Do you want to -_- off everything? This is the end of everything" <~ ...  

most draconian reps did leave feedback, but we left it elsewhere. not sure what leonis is doing.