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#51 FBKFBKFBK

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 09:21 PM

Not a bad idea to put some gears in the kafra shop, some utility gears for rookies like Faw, Hbp, Survivor orb, not super meta items but useful things you can grab at any moment without waiting for them to return in kachua

 

Thing is this will be redundant when we get this update KRO : MVP bosses adjustment - Content updates - Divine Pride (divine-pride.net)

 

MVPs will drop scrolls which let you craft cash shop gear like the ones you listed and also shadow gears


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 12:26 AM

Thing is this will be redundant when we get this update KRO : MVP bosses adjustment - Content updates - Divine Pride (divine-pride.net)

 

MVPs will drop scrolls which let you craft cash shop gear like the ones you listed and also shadow gears

What year will we ever see this in IRO, that is KRO people need to stop posting what KRO has done or is doing.  Cause IRO is no less than 5 years behind them...disgustingly enough.  How many years do you think this will take i mean Star Emperor is a good example of how badly they are dragging their feet.  KRO first saw Mention in what 2017...that was 4 years ago...and IRO still hasn't implemented it...you are selling pipe dreams.  This game has already seen a sharp decline in actual players...like people that aren't just afking or in a town vending...half the online population is just vending in 5 years there wont be much of a IRO left for them to even bother implementing this.  An inability to act is why IRO is a dying game, either they lack the people required to implement the updates or something has tied their hands behind their backs.

I have watched this game devolve from a fun sprite based multiplayer game into a greedy cash grab that has only continuously declined as years progressed.  To the point now where the economy is so badly impacted by the greed model the company is following there is no recovery...returning and new players are either forced to pay or sit frustrated realizing that anything they want is simply out of reasonable reach.  We went from earn as you go, to pay for cosmetics, to pay for moderately decent gear, to pay for God Tier Items power creep is real in almost every video game its the nature of the beast the difference is in most RPGs they aren't charging you 20bucks every time a new weapon or armor set is released.  Everything got bigger and more broken...to where we are now.  Their are very few IN GAME ITEMS that are even worth the time it takes to acquire them.  Safe a few robes, and a handful of weapons. Without resorting to despicable looting practices, making any reasonable amount of zeny using in game items is ridiculous, half the decent gear you get sells for 10z...LIKE WHY

Wake up you have been complacently abused long enough...speak with your wallets.  STOP SPENDING.


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 04:11 AM

Thing is this will be redundant when we get this update KRO : MVP bosses adjustment - Content updates - Divine Pride (divine-pride.net)

 

MVPs will drop scrolls which let you craft cash shop gear like the ones you listed and also shadow gears

 

TBH this doesn't even look remotely reasonable to do. Most of them require hundreds / thousands of MvP kills to produce a single lackluster item with no purpose. Compared to spending $3. If we did get an ingame way to obtain items, I wouldn't even want this one. Even then, imagine the vanilla-player fairytale you would have to weave to defend the system. Imagine there was a player that actually didn't spend a dollar on the game who hunted 300 valk flowers somehow and then killed 30 super MvPs (somehow with gear worse than what they are going for), they get a fallen angel wing, then staying true to their f2p playstyle go to refine it to +9, OOPSIE it broke at +5, shoot, maybe next time.

 

What year will we ever see this in IRO, that is KRO people need to stop posting what KRO has done or is doing.  Cause IRO is no less than 5 years behind them...disgustingly enough.  How many years do you think this will take i mean Star Emperor is a good example of how badly they are dragging their feet.  KRO first saw Mention in what 2017...that was 4 years ago...and IRO still hasn't implemented it...you are selling pipe dreams.  This game has already seen a sharp decline in actual players...like people that aren't just afking or in a town vending...half the online population is just vending in 5 years there wont be much of a IRO left for them to even bother implementing this.  An inability to act is why IRO is a dying game, either they lack the people required to implement the updates or something has tied their hands behind their backs.
 

 

I have to agree, the worst part about Gravity's independently franchised system is that every RO region has its own homebrew and players of this game are so well researched on what every other server is doing. Honestly, I don't know where people find the time. But without fail every single event or update theres 15 kRO, jRO, bRO, thRO fanboys poking holes in every missing item, changed description, or difference. I would never have known the difference, but now everything feels worse knowing the grass is greener elsewhere. Similarly, every week there are the same people on their hands and knees begging for another region's cash shop item to act as a content pacifier on which they can suckle.


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 04:55 AM

Wake up you have been complacently abused long enough...speak with your wallets. STOP SPENDING.


Funny enough most iRO folks have never spent a lot to begin with and that’s why kRO mostly gnomes iRO. So I don’t think they will care much if the small remaining folks will stop spending. They are already focusing on Origins.

Now, can’t blame WP alone for mismanagement. Let’s remember that most players loved OCP and Ygg because they gave east rates. Everyone became godly just by spending few bucks. Like in real life, before we realize how bad drugs are, it’s already too late.

Seeing iRO in current state makes me realize how smart my finally decision to quit iRO on 2019 was. People should’ve stopped spending anyway the moment server dropped below 3k online. Should’ve seen a downfall straight to hell coming miles away in the beginning of 2019 lol
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Posted 15 September 2021 - 05:21 AM

sigh Chakri. no matter how you put down iRO deep down you wanna go back playing and upload videos. that's why you keep going here and post your exaggerated narrative. 99% of your posts are meme worthy and are just meant to piss off Warp Portal.

 

if you are really quit in this game, you wouldn't bother posting <snip> here. Or if its really just WP and all things they messed up, you would have gone playing in other servers. in reality your jus saying all this stuff so WP would pressure kRO enough to get actual new content (like lvl185 and the 100% uptime Inspiration etc.).

 

i bet the moment iRO gets Glast Heim Challenge mode, you'll be the first one to make a video showing off your +20 Temporal Circlet to feed your narcissism.

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:10 AM

Not really. I deleted my previous iRO youtube ch. for a reason. Dont include me into a druggies like you who cant quit the game and still complain about iRO not getting updates. So, let me know when you see me in game doing WoE or PvM. Definitely dont blame me or WP if you didnt see this coming. My posts are pretty much meme worthy as much as many posts out there complaining for no good reasons. iRO in a nutshell indeed when the majority of people are blaming WP instead of themselves. You're supposed to be happy OHKO mobs sand feel godly in an empty server. What went wrong?

 

You can bet it and be wrong again. When AOGH, I was the very last one to upload a boring PvM vid. Hey look! I can OHKO delete MvPs and monsters while exactly everyone can do the same. Such a bad narcissism to flex on. The only narcissism here is people who barely spend money to support game yet complain all the time for updates. Like, lol ... WP probably doesnt care if a F2P players wanna quit. Seems like i'm pissing someone because I was right again  :rolleyes:

 

 


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:22 AM

What year will we ever see this in IRO, that is KRO people need to stop posting what KRO has done or is doing.  Cause IRO is no less than 5 years behind them...disgustingly enough.  How many years do you think this will take i mean Star Emperor is a good example of how badly they are dragging their feet.  KRO first saw Mention in what 2017...that was 4 years ago...and IRO still hasn't implemented it...you are selling pipe dreams.  This game has already seen a sharp decline in actual players...like people that aren't just afking or in a town vending...half the online population is just vending in 5 years there wont be much of a IRO left for them to even bother implementing this.  An inability to act is why IRO is a dying game, either they lack the people required to implement the updates or something has tied their hands behind their backs.

I have watched this game devolve from a fun sprite based multiplayer game into a greedy cash grab that has only continuously declined as years progressed.  To the point now where the economy is so badly impacted by the greed model the company is following there is no recovery...returning and new players are either forced to pay or sit frustrated realizing that anything they want is simply out of reasonable reach.  We went from earn as you go, to pay for cosmetics, to pay for moderately decent gear, to pay for God Tier Items power creep is real in almost every video game its the nature of the beast the difference is in most RPGs they aren't charging you 20bucks every time a new weapon or armor set is released.  Everything got bigger and more broken...to where we are now.  Their are very few IN GAME ITEMS that are even worth the time it takes to acquire them.  Safe a few robes, and a handful of weapons. Without resorting to despicable looting practices, making any reasonable amount of zeny using in game items is ridiculous, half the decent gear you get sells for 10z...LIKE WHY

Wake up you have been complacently abused long enough...speak with your wallets.  STOP SPENDING.

 

Im not saying what i posted is the perfect way but like you say we are even lacking in content updates that we SHOULD have. Unlikely for us to get a custom change when they cant give us copy pasted updates.

 

Yea I agree with all you say here. Game is no longer a MMORPG its just a solo progression game where you can chat now. There is a lack challenging content that need party play. New RO servers are fun cause you get that MMORPG feel again but quickly ends up back to soloing. Average age of players are at working age people dont have time to grind zeny easier to pay 2 win and KRO knows this.


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:50 AM

Best solution is to close Chaos and start over with kRO updates, strictly I mean but guess how many people will still play when they aint godly no more unless they whale the -_- out of game ie support the game lol or 24/7 farming <snip> in basement with 69 alts  :Emo_12: 

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 02:51 PM

Tbh, I wouldn't really pay for a game service if there's nothing being delivered for sooooo long. I mean what are you gonna pay for really? What are you gonna use the new power creep for? To see if you can kill Amdarais in 0.001 seconds from a previous personal record of 0.003? People are burnt out by doing the same contents and features over and over again for years. When you want a customer to stay, you gotta sell something. Not the other way around where you pay and you aren't even sure of what are they gonna deliver, or if they will even deliver ever at all. It doesn't feel right. And when I say something, it's not the power creep <snip> they put out in desperate move to lure players into spending, milking them, and <snip> the heck out the few remaining balance that this game has, if there's any. If only they present and improve the service, revitalize the contents, keep up with the new updates, and the players feel satisfied, that's when you PAY because they deserve it and that's when you want them to keep up with the kind of service that everyone deserves. These F2P players won't feel too sorry at all if the server closed no matter how we deflect the issues to them and to people not spending enough to support the game. They are probably the last person to feel sorry for the game and for everyone QQing in this thread. It's a Free-to-Play game after all. They just enjoy whatever and move on to a new game if iRO closes.

 

It's late for WP to consider revitalizing the server and now probably hoping that the few remaining spending players can still have the interest in shelling out money by luring them with more power creeps. They should've taken advantage of revitalizing the servers back in time when passionate players were here, still patiently positively waiting for the time that this game will eventually turn out the way everybody hoped for. Now they just come for nostalgia and then go back to wherever cave they live in when they see the system got worst, more so spend a penny. Lol. But hey, better late than never.

 

 

Inb4 moved to #ImprovingRagnarokOnline that never gets read by the WP people aside from moderating posts with emotional outburst.

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 04:43 PM

Current power creeps are too great for the contents we have. It's back to the very beginning. Should've not given out easy OCP items and should've not let WoE die because most whales were WoE'ers and big customers to many PvM'ers. So idk why some people are complaining at all. Gravity does deliver contents and updates. It's just they deliver to servers that are profitable to them and iRO aint one of these. It's a business after all lol

Hence, for a big F2P server like iRO, its already a miracle we are getting updates and even if people quit, they probably don't care. They are ready to milk and support players who are willing to spend xD
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Posted 16 September 2021 - 10:33 AM

Out of curiosity, in which year does the subscription system ended in iRO?
 

 

 

I want to say it was around 2010 or so when the game transitioned from Subs to F2P... The cash shop had arrived in like 2007 or 2008 and everyone I played with dreaded it although Gravity had promised the cash shop wouldnt make the game pay to win... The cash shop started simply enough with some enriched elu, enriched ori and snake hat/ bowl of fruit hat and things like that- nothing totally game breaking. Then, however, the slow spiral began and other stuff started going into the shop that was above and beyond cosmetics or increased upgrade chance... Which was another issue, I'm pretty sure they nerfed the natural upgrade chance and implemented enriched ores to "increase success" when in reality it probably brought the success chance closer to what it originally was. Nowadays the cash shop clearly has a ton of pay to win gear that's justified by making it "hard to get" by having a 1% drop rate or some crap thrown in with fairly useless junk gears. 

 

I wish they would've never introduced these gacha type boxes and OP gear that's way beyond what you can obtain in the game... It made pretty much everything but useful cards worthless. I don't see why they couldn't have focused hard on the enriched ores, rental gear and cosmetic costumes... People love customizing the look of their characters. They could've instead introduced monthly or quarterly events like the current Royal Hunt event... Say you go complete the 4 hunting quests for the day and then that gives you a chance to "hunt the big bad dragon" down below Prontera castle or something... and from that MVP kill you'd be able to obtain one of the 1% drop rate "gacha" gear... People would then spend money on bubble gum all the same and it would still have to be obtained by PLAYING THE GAME. Gravity/Warpportal has always said they're against buying and selling zeny... Well at this point you can sit in Eden or Prontera with your credit card and completely gear up your character by trading WPE/KP with other players in exchange for zeny without ever setting foot outside of Prontera... What's the point of farming gear when you can just buy it all from the kafra store?\

They said the game wouldn't become P2W... HAH What a joke! They're too far gone at this point


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Posted 16 September 2021 - 10:59 AM

I want to say it was around 2010 or so when the game transitioned from Subs to F2P... The cash shop had arrived in like 2007 or 2008 and everyone I played with dreaded it although Gravity had promised the cash shop wouldnt make the game pay to win... The cash shop started simply enough with some enriched elu, enriched ori and snake hat/ bowl of fruit hat and things like that- nothing totally game breaking. Then, however, the slow spiral began and other stuff started going into the shop that was above and beyond cosmetics or increased upgrade chance... Which was another issue, I'm pretty sure they nerfed the natural upgrade chance and implemented enriched ores to "increase success" when in reality it probably brought the success chance closer to what it originally was. Nowadays the cash shop clearly has a ton of pay to win gear that's justified by making it "hard to get" by having a 1% drop rate or some crap thrown in with fairly useless junk gears. 

 

I wish they would've never introduced these gacha type boxes and OP gear that's way beyond what you can obtain in the game... It made pretty much everything but useful cards worthless. I don't see why they couldn't have focused hard on the enriched ores, rental gear and cosmetic costumes... People love customizing the look of their characters. They could've instead introduced monthly or quarterly events like the current Royal Hunt event... Say you go complete the 4 hunting quests for the day and then that gives you a chance to "hunt the big bad dragon" down below Prontera castle or something... and from that MVP kill you'd be able to obtain one of the 1% drop rate "gacha" gear... People would then spend money on bubble gum all the same and it would still have to be obtained by PLAYING THE GAME. Gravity/Warpportal has always said they're against buying and selling zeny... Well at this point you can sit in Eden or Prontera with your credit card and completely gear up your character by trading WPE/KP with other players in exchange for zeny without ever setting foot outside of Prontera... What's the point of farming gear when you can just buy it all from the kafra store?\

They said the game wouldn't become P2W... HAH What a joke! They're too far gone at this point

 

from what i saw it was 2008 that they first brought in a F2P server along with the subscription servers and then they went full f2p in 2011 or around then


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