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[Havenn]

This is good news! I will do some testing too if its any help.Oh, hi Havenn, are you the same guy in game?

Hello, Yes =D my gen's are - Havenn & I stole thi

So....in ET here's the best stuff I've got.

Osiris - If buffed, you can pull 60k+ CC's with Holy Cannonballs using +9 Byeollungum EA4/3
Baphomet - 60k CC with HF+Holy Cannon Balls (this is higher than bomb dmg due to his vit)
ESL - Soul Cannon with HF is like 45k, with Byeo about 32k

Holy cannon balls make clearing FBH floor a breeze. Didn't have time to get to Beez, though I expect that he will take roughly what ESL did. It will be a long kill but completely possible, easy with Stringer+AB.

[sb120495]

So it's not possible to do an all gene party?At least RKs are not needed.

[Havenn]

Not saying it's not possible, you could totally do it, I would just rather have an AB in place of one of those Gens to save on some tokens and buffs XD. a 2 gen+AB party would be really nice

Edited by Havenn, 04 April 2013 - 06:39 AM.

[NukeDuke]

imagine those numbers with instant cc

[Havenn]

Yea anyone owning a Mjolnir is in for a treat.

[NukeDuke]

Now I have a dilemma with this new CC update. I have 100 str 100 int 90 dex 76 stat points left, what would you guys do? this is for WoE/MVP.

[Havenn]

Im torn between adding more Dex now for CC.....though STR is always nice....so is int......xD

adding about 21 luk is decent since it takes little stats and gives 7/7 atk/matk

[DrAzzy]

at least 21 luk is a no-brainer on a genetic, I optimized for AB not CC so I have 4x luk on my good genetic.

[Havenn]

=p I have one with 21 another with 77. Honestly, the 77 luk almost does as much as the few str you can get post 100 anyway

(Havenn used to have 84 luk, but was changed to more str with the CC buff)

Edited by Havenn, 04 April 2013 - 09:46 AM.

[DrAzzy]

77 luk is too much. It's like you're using an AA card or something? But we don't have any SP problems on genetic that we'd need to remedy with the AA card, so that would be pointless.

Beyond 61 luk, putting points towards str or int is better than luk for damage of CC or AB unless both str and luk are 100+

Edited by DrAzzy, 04 April 2013 - 09:57 AM.

[Havenn]

Yea it was mainly used for some potting assistance lol. Which now I barely pot anyway x.x

[NukeDuke]

someone with mjornir do some test.

[DrAzzy]

What needs to be tested about mjolnir and the new changes???

[Havenn]

Lol, there's nothing that really needs testing. I can guarantee it's one of the best CC weapons

[Joaco]

I made some testing on ET today, rape ESL in.. 30 secs or less? 45-48k per CC. 48-52k to Beelze, 56-66k to the skels on floor 100, and 62-72k to Naght Sieger. Soul Cannon Balls on all of them except on the skels, I used Holy on them. +12 Carga (AK x2), Pyroclastic and Striking. CC > FTW!

[WonderTonic]

I just tested this on Bee/Thana/ESL and needless to say. Mechs now have competition(and by that I mean mechs will most likely lose) and RKs are simply blown out by these guys. Thanatos pretty much melts in seconds. I used to boast that Mechs can take out both of Bee's forms in one mental strength's time. Gens can do it in the same amount of time or faster with a skill that pretty much does equal damage to ghosts and is completely Variable. Mechs still outdamage against Shadow/Holy though... until you Acid Bomb lol. Strangely enough. On Bee's second form, my damage nearly doubled (105k lexed -> 190k lexed). There was no stoneskin, running, or anything. He just fell over.

My Mech will pretty much be only used for Entweihen now. I don't WoE so my RK will probably be respecced. Gen's have pretty much taken over the entirety of MVP (up from the previous 90%)

B>Mjolnir lol

[Havenn]

Oh wow wonder, thanks for that information. A clean Beez run is necessary though as I found a stray and it did Stone Skin on me which was pretty messy x.x I did see the gained damage in true form, this is due to The size change from Small to Large (ty Azzy)

Thanatos solo was honestly the most fun I've had on my genetic yet.

Edited by Havenn, 05 April 2013 - 11:50 AM.

[sb120495]

Anybody solo bako/bang/buwaya yet? I need confirmation that summon flora goes through plant type defense.

[Havenn]

Haven't used summon flora, but my 95 vani was enough to do Buwaya


Also keep in mind Elemental sword+CD in mouth for good dps even with slow ASPD

Edited by Havenn, 05 April 2013 - 06:47 AM.

[sb120495]

But if your flora one-shots it's obviously better.Can you test it now?

[Havenn]

Don't have that skill =[

[sb120495]

Meh alright i'll test it later.

[DrAzzy]

I did see the gained damage in true form, this is due to a decreased DEF%

Fly has 37% reduc from def, true has 45%.

The change in damage is due to weapon size penalty, I think. Fly is small, true is large, and weapon attack makes a big difference with the new CC.

[Havenn]

Oooo my bad, I thought it was opposite. Size would do that, were the above tests done with HF? That would make perfect sense, since there was almost an exactly 50% improvement - the additional def reduct

[DrAzzy]

Oooo my bad, I thought it was opposite. Size would do that, were the above tests done with HF? That would make perfect sense, since there was almost an exactly 50% improvement - the additional def reduct

Let's calc and find out...

http://drazzy.com/ca...encompare.shtml

First off, his damage is epic - He's gotta have at least one meg, probably two to hit those numbers, unless my calc is wrong (which I don't think it is - it agrees beautifully with my tests, at least)

The damage difference is only on the right magnitude if he's comparing low-end damage for fly with high end damage for true (assuming he's using an HF)

Edited by DrAzzy, 05 April 2013 - 12:09 PM.