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#76 LadyRava

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:11 PM

These requirements don't make any sense.

 

I somewhat supported the idea of VMs for T2 gear because it made winning colo more meaningful and the medals had no use before. But the amount of medals required is completely unrealistic and devalues the importance of winning one colo. 1 Victory Medal = 1 colo victory, so making the requirements that high suggests that it's supposed to be easy to win often instead of something impressive.

 

Lets do some math here:

 

                   Old BP       New BP

                   Cost           Cost       VM

Necklace     148323      71195     12

Ring            59329        28478     5

Earring        118658      56956     10

Ornament    88994       42717      7

 

The New BP cost is 48% of the old BP cost. VMs are worth between 6170 and 6427 BP each using the difference in BP cost above. The average here is 6345 bp/VM.

 

Using this information, the rest of the gear will cost:

 

                   Old BP       New BP

                   Cost           Cost        VM

Weapon      711946      341734    59

Chest          474631      227822    39

Pants          296645      142389    25

Gloves        237316      113911    20

Shoes         237316      113911    20

Hat              355973      170867    30

 

(VM values rounded up, math somewhat messy)

 

So all the accessories cost 34 VMs total, Weapon + Armor costs an estimated 193 VMs for a total of 227 VMs needed to get the full T2 set.

 

Which is just insane. Either we're expected to win 227 colos or most of these medals will come out of boxes. If we're expected to get most of our medals the second way then T2 isn't about rewarding colo victories at all, it's just another way to gamble.

 

A better way to do this would be to have each accessory cost 1 VM and maybe have the weapon cost 5. This would still be hard to obtain because it's not trivial to win colo, but allow victories to have some meaning. Or you could just have the gear cost BP and trade in the VMs for some value as others have suggested.

 

 

 


Edited by LadyRava, 06 August 2013 - 12:17 PM.

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#77 mysticalre

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:15 PM

Let's not forget that it was our wonderful community that wanted this idea in the first place.

 

GG guys.

To be fair, that thread suggested reasonable numbers, not 12 VM for an accessory LOL


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:18 PM

cool patch! let the babys cry!!!

Thanks, you're so nice... I can feel all that empathy *sob*


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:19 PM

Like I said, the idea of using VMs to get T2 Colo isn't bad.

The issue is that it is NEEDED.

 

Having VMs serve as a shortcut to get the stuff faster = acceptable. It would drive more people to play colo and try to win instead of "meh, got 30k/40k, it's fine". Not that colo is actually good so far.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

Zanbee said "I don't play the game but hopefully stuff is easier"

 

Sounds familiar to people who quoted "THESE PATCH NOTES CAN CHANGE AT ANY TIME" last week when people complained of no pet update and no fix for shadow assault...and guess what...those patch notes didn't change!

 

Maybe you shouldn't always give the devs with a horrible track history the benefit of the doubt?

 

 

I think we have a lot of precedents where it's fair to completely and utterly doubt them as they send this game to its grave


Edited by xxalucard, 06 August 2013 - 12:30 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

 

OH YEAH! Thanks for the response, Zanbee!


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:27 PM

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

 

Too late, I'm aready sobbing.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:27 PM

Even you get one VM a day it still take more than a month to just obtain a set of accessories.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:28 PM

My fellow tanks.... Time to flip the table.... the longer it was been become harder for us.. goodluck to us

 

I thought it was fairly obvious that they don't care about us.

 

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

 

Thanks for keeping us up to date. I'm sorry if I misunderstood but can you clarify for me? Are the tentative prices VM + BP, or is it VM and/or BP with varying amounts?


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:28 PM

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

hello!
thanks, if we have something more affordable for beginners and do not have as hard and we can not always win.
 
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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:29 PM

What about fixing the blind colo bug?


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

I thought it was fairly obvious that they don't care about us.

 

 

Thanks for keeping us up to date. I'm sorry if I misunderstood but can you clarify for me? Are the tentative prices VM + BP, or is it VM and/or BP with varying amounts?

 

The tentative prices are for VM numbers. I'm personally hoping the numbers might change.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

my head hurts reading patch notes every week. when will the suffering end


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

 

I think the issue is more that the VMs are NEEDED. There should be other options without the use of VMs, and probably with the use of the T1 Accessories.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:32 PM

My fellow tanks.... Time to flip the table.... the longer it was been become harder for us.. goodluck to us

 

 

 

These requirements don't make any sense.

 

I somewhat supported the idea of VMs for T2 gear because it made winning colo more meaningful and the medals had no use before. But the amount of medals required is completely unrealistic and devalues the importance of winning one colo. 1 Victory Medal = 1 colo victory, so making the requirements that high suggests that it's supposed to be easy to win often instead of something impressive.

 

Lets do some math here:

 

                   Old BP       New BP

                   Cost           Cost       VM

Necklace     148323      71195     12

Ring            59329        28478     5

Earring        118658      56956     10

Ornament    88994       42717      7

 

The New BP cost is 48% of the old BP cost. VMs are worth between 6170 and 6427 BP each using the difference in BP cost above. The average here is 6345 bp/VM.

 

Using this information, the rest of the gear will cost:

 

                   Old BP       New BP

                   Cost           Cost        VM

Weapon      711946      341734    59

Chest          474631      227822    39

Pants          296645      142389    25

Gloves        237316      113911    20

Shoes         237316      113911    20

Hat              355973      170867    30

 

(VM values rounded up, math somewhat messy)

 

So all the accessories cost 34 VMs total, Weapon + Armor costs an estimated 193 VMs for a total of 227 VMs needed to get the full T2 set.

 

Which is just insane. Either we're expected to win 227 colos or most of these medals will come out of boxes. If we're expected to get most of our medals the second way then T2 isn't about rewarding colo victories at all, it's just another way to gamble.

 

A better way to do this would be to have each accessory cost 1 VM and maybe have the weapon cost 5. This would still be hard to obtain because it's not trivial to win colo, but allow victories to have some meaning. Or you could just have the gear cost BP and trade in the VMs for some value as others have suggested.

 

 

I agree the amount of VM needed for t2 acc is just insane. Goodbye t2, mass rage quit?

 

Please consider the VM prices to be TENTATIVE for now. We are in communication with the devs in regards to the VMs.

 

Please consider the future of this game, thank you.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

Future of this game? Lol.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:35 PM

The tentative prices are for VM numbers. I'm personally hoping the numbers might change.

 

So.... It's gonna be VM + BP only then?

Oh well. No matter the outcome the Palm Tree Army will prevail


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:37 PM



 

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GG, Quality game. I'm done. 


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:38 PM

Future of this game? Lol.

 

what is so funny about it?
 


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:41 PM

Because there is no future for this game. :ic:


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

Damn it, here I was hoping I could get Farmer Carlos to kill people in Colo. Oh well ;_;

Oh jesus, his face is scary D:


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

oh boy no bug fix's? but look all the new cash shop items. more stuff to look forward to.
CANT you fix the bugs be for giving us new (insert), COME THE (insert) ON make the game playable THEN give us new stuff to play with
 
guess the Devs have lost their minds.......
 
PS the victor medal rates are a joke and a bad one at that


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:45 PM

Sometimes i think the game the devs work on is not the game we play.

 

Colo is broken due to bugs, cheaters, bug exploiters and terrible class balancing/kill mechanics.

Then what we do? Require Winning Colo (to get Victory Medals) to get T2 stuff! Isn't that marvelous?

Then they wonder "why people don't love our game by the thousands and thousands?" 

Who knew, eh?

 

/frustrated

 


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:47 PM

Should change "RO2 Community Chat" to "RO2 QQ Chat"


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