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#176 Melisax3

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:03 AM

0 TOLERANCE AGAINST THE EXPLOITERS, PERMABAN ALL THEIR IDS FOREVER

 

You are just mad, aint you o_o?

 

No, i do not support them either but you should just calm down l0l.


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#177 LordNeito

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:06 AM

The problem with the TV analogy though is people knew up front that the items weren't tradeable, though it seems hard to imagine that being the case with the TV. The bound item situation can be incredibly frustrating at times, but that's how things have always been. The devs clearly intend for people to grind out everything per character, so I'm not a fan of even same-account transfers. Temp ban with removal for those traded between accounts sounds fair, removal of items with no reimbursement for those who bought, and strict ban for all who sold.. that'd be a perfect solution in my mind. Now to see what actually happens though.. :p_swt:

 

The devs also intended the game to be fair and balanced for that mechanics to work. About the solution, it sound really perfect, and i do hope that happens.

 

You are just mad, aint you o_o?

 

No, i do not support them either but you should just calm down l0l.

 

LOL, tell him to calm down with that relevant signature xDDDD


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:02 AM

I am not a crook! *Nixon*
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:18 AM

0 TOLERANCE AGAINST THE EXPLOITERS, PERMABAN ALL THEIR IDS FOREVER

 

Comic relief, please step forward again.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:01 AM

Do a test and temporaly ban all the exploiters for a week, lets see how populated is the game anymore then do the decision o:

 

I agree with this... what if 50-60% of population use the bug? what will happen?


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:05 AM

I just looked at Sea's change logs for their maintenance today, looks like they just fixed it.

 

So I guess we can expect that we will get the same patch tonight.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:08 AM

I just looked at Sea's change logs for their maintenance today, looks like they just fixed it.

 

So I guess we can expect that we will get the same patch tonight.

 

patch notes plz :3


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:09 AM

patch notes plz :3

 

The Patch notes like the cake


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:13 AM

patch notes plz :3

 

Not sure if it's a trap, but..

 

 

Bug Fixed/Changes

▪ Fix an issue with player's profession level able to exceed Level 50.

▪ Account-binded items are now unable to be traded through vendor stores.
▪ Players using customize skinning for their RO2 game client are advised to revert back to the default RO2 skinning to minimize any unexpected game crash.

This applies to the following changes done to the VDK files in the game's folder.

1) Customized Collusion UI skinning
2) Chinese support string VDK

 

Collusion?  :p_swt:


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:16 AM

Oh.. Those are the patch notes for the SEA server. We probably will get something similar to that on the bug fixes deparment.

 

Collusion... Why it doesn't suprise me? It is the same server that has all those terribad translations D:


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:34 PM

Not sure if it's a trap, but..

 

 

Collusion?  :p_swt:

 

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:31 PM

Wait what?

 

They made sure that UI skinning is not done anymore? MAD I SAY.


Edited by AmiiMii, 24 September 2013 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

Please keep the topic civil and on topic.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:08 PM

Just ban the exploiters... And if by chance they ban a innocent person, is easier to prove your are innocent than guilty.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:40 PM

Or just remove the illegal item from the inventories, no refunds for those who bought the item and the zeny removed from the seller (or banned).

 

There, everyone will be happy!


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:53 PM

So many good ideas not including permaban to punish people and make everyone happy, yet some numbskulls still think a permaban everyone is necessary. Gotta need to read the Patch Notes again for lulz.

 

Pretty much after reading the notes, all i can say is: (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻


Edited by 2204130521212213647, 24 September 2013 - 03:57 PM.

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#192 Tigra

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:13 PM

People that try to cheat should be banned or at least get an account gear wipe. It's not fair for people who actually play the game. I've opened 30 boxes on my ranger and haven't gotten one piece of ranger equipment.


Edited by Tigra, 24 September 2013 - 04:15 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:29 PM

People that try to cheat should be banned or at least get an account gear wipe. It's not fair for people who actually play the game. I've opened 30 boxes on my ranger and haven't gotten one piece of ranger equipment.

 

Yeah, removing the bug-traded items will still make those people win and be unfair with their bug-traded non-existing items! People need to read and stop being extremist.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:35 PM

I just thought about this while looking at the Auction House.

 

So why not also punish those who are +1ing their items (ie: Crafted Epics) to unbind them? I'm pretty sure that counts as an exploit to me since they are "Bind on Equip" items, and I'm pretty sure they've been used before (I'd test it right now, but I'm too broke to buy something). Unless someone really uses their Karnium to attract buyers.

 

Edit: Fixed some grammar, and stuff.

 

But yeah, I still think removing just only the exploited item seems fair enough without a refund to the buyer and removal of the Zeny to the seller.


Edited by JoshObra, 24 September 2013 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:57 PM

I remember that people were able to unbind Craft Epic Weapons for AGES. It was way before Crafted Epic Armor could have been unbinded too. 

 

The current exploits that people use (either for the good or bad):

- Humbaba "pull to corridor"

- PvE Einhejar "one by one" boss pull

- Rangers turning invisible as they respawn in colo

- Changing costumes in colo to turn invisible to some players

- Unbinding certian epic weapons by refining

 

And the ones people used but were fixed:

- CoA: bugging certain bosses

 

Probably a ton more, I just don't have any other in my mind.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

Yeah, removing the bug-traded items will still make those people win and be unfair with their bug-traded non-existing items!

 

The -_- are you talking about?


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

Pretty much: Player X used bug when no money is involved -> remove items that were traded using the bug -> player A no longer has the items -> No need for permaban or account wipe -> Player A loses unfairly-gained advantage. -> Everyone is happy.

 

I still don't get why some people feel that other need to be permabanned or lose everything when there a ton of other alternatives where the bug abuser still ends up with nothing, and with a chance to keep playing.

 

Excluding those who tried to/had a big zenny profit. Those must be permabanned without mercy.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

Pretty much: Player X used bug when no money is involved -> remove items that were traded using the bug -> player A no longer has the items -> No need for permaban or account wipe -> Player A loses unfairly-gained advantage. -> Everyone is happy.

 

I still don't get why some people feel that other need to be permabanned or lose everything when there a ton of other alternatives where the bug abuser still ends up with nothing, and with a chance to keep playing.

 

Excluding those who tried to/had a big zenny profit. Those must be permabanned without mercy.

 

 

Good idea, this is possible..... if  warpportal has hardworking staff to trace every untradable/bound items that are traded on the "game database". it might take long except if dev made a automated stuff that can easily trace an item on the database..


Edited by Dijkstra99x, 24 September 2013 - 09:35 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:35 PM

Not sure if it's a trap, but..

 

 

Collusion?  :p_swt:

 

LAWL COLLUSION!!!!! Oh god. 


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:52 PM

Or... BAN all people who didn't tried or used the trade bug because they think they are too cool for it.

 

And!, they are few and will be easy to ban compared to those ppl who used the trade bug? sounds good? haha

 

go do it WP!!  :kis:

 

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Edited by xdada, 24 September 2013 - 10:11 PM.

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