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#51 Xellie

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:54 PM

treat stalker/sc like a support class in your mind and realize that intimidate is pretty freaking awesome.

 

I love playing sc on renewal.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:01 PM

But thats not the mind set of renewal players :V


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:02 PM

treat stalker/sc like a support class in your mind and realize that intimidate is pretty freaking awesome.

 

I love playing sc on renewal.

 

Read mine, & Tofu's previous comments, regarding Intimate. Sure it's a great skill but first off a Rogue can't use it & secondly it's a long time before even a Stalker can.

 

I never was talking about a Stalker class in the first place. I said Rogue. Either way a support class is worthless, if you have no way of being able to PVM & level the character, to begin with. You use a Rogue as a support class plus most people won't TI with Stalkers. They are not of any real use in a TI.

 

Every Class needs a way to level, & you can't level, by playing WoE or PVP :xd


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#54 Xellie

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:45 PM

Umm.... There are plenty of monsters you can level on without losing your skill. I'd have to look at the renewal level ranges, but I recall having a large selection of things to do to level as a rogue.

 

Combo of DS and bowling bash. (seeing as DS is actually a non intimidated skill)

 

any buff given to a rogue would carry to stalker/sc which are extremely powerful in their own right.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

Umm.... There are plenty of monsters you can level on without losing your skill. I'd have to look at the renewal level ranges, but I recall having a large selection of things to do to level as a rogue.

 

Combo of DS and bowling bash. (seeing as DS is actually a non intimidated skill)

 

any buff given to a rogue would carry to stalker/sc which are extremely powerful in their own right.

 

Hmm... Once you earn a skill, you don't loose it, as you level up. So I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. There are not a "LARGE Selection" of Skills a Rogue has. Sure any class can always find things to do to level, such as quests, I'm talking about PVM, & Eden TI's. The same things every other class can do.

 

DS is only for Bows, & once again Intimidate, not only can't be used by a Rogue, it can't even be used till your transcend, & are Job 2, with many Job levels.

 

Rogues have no buffs that would help in the first place, & you are still concentrating on the wrong class, even though that one also needs work.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Rogue#Skills


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:39 PM

Hmm... Once you earn a skill, you don't loose it, as you level up. So I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. There are not a "LARGE Selection" of Skills a Rogue has. Sure any class can always find things to do to level, such as quests, I'm talking about PVM, & Eden TI's. The same things every other class can do.

 

DS is only for Bows, & once again Intimidate, not only can't be used by a Rogue, it can't even be used till your transcend, & are Job 2, with many Job levels.

 

Rogues have no buffs that would help in the first place, & you are still concentrating on the wrong class, even though that one also needs work.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Rogue#Skills

 

You lose intimidated skill you desired as you get hit with another skill. and shes saying theres large selection of monster&map which don't cast intimidatable skills so you can keep skill you desired.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:57 PM

^ that

 

323y.png

 

Seems usable to me!


Edited by Xellie, 12 November 2013 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 05:56 PM


You lose intimidated skill you desired as you get hit with another skill. and shes saying theres large selection of monster&map which don't cast intimidatable skills so you can keep skill you desired.

 

^ that

 

323y.png

 

Seems usable to me!

 

You both, still seem to be, not only be missing the point, but changing the topic. This has nothing to do with the OP. Also she just mentioned loosing skills not me. I never said a thing about that nor is that an issue when the skill is already a mute issue.

 

It's also pointless to post a screenshot, from a non-iRO game, since those are skills a Rogue does NOT have! Nice try though ;)

 

You have proven my point however. If a Rogue were to have those skills it would be a different story.


Edited by Razzez, 12 November 2013 - 05:57 PM.

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#59 Xellie

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:14 PM

 

 

You both, still seem to be, not only be missing the point, but changing the topic. This has nothing to do with the OP. Also she just mentioned loosing skills not me. I never said a thing about that nor is that an issue when the skill is already a mute issue.

 

It's also pointless to post a screenshot, from a non-iRO game, since those are skills a Rogue does NOT have! Nice try though ;)

 

You have proven my point however. If a Rogue were to have those skills it would be a different story.

 

Umm Razzez... That ss was taken on Classic... and the skill tree did not change with renewal....


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:21 PM

 

 

You both, still seem to be, not only be missing the point, but changing the topic. This has nothing to do with the OP. Also she just mentioned loosing skills not me. I never said a thing about that nor is that an issue when the skill is already a mute issue.

 

It's also pointless to post a screenshot, from a non-iRO game, since those are skills a Rogue does NOT have! Nice try though ;)

 

You have proven my point however. If a Rogue were to have those skills it would be a different story.

 

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#61 Xellie

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:24 PM

Best troll 2013


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:06 PM

Umm Razzez... That ss was taken on Classic... and the skill tree did not change with renewal....

 

Umm I don't play Classic. I never was talking about Classic & I thought this was for Renewal not Classic. I guess that's why you misunderstood what I was talking about.

 

I'm glad you shared that information since it does go to show that the skills aren't even the same between Classic & Renewal. So that means iRO does have the skills set differently & kRO has nothing to do with it.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:08 PM

Xellie I told you, this is a battle to be won.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:09 PM

Umm I don't play Classic. I never was talking about Classic & I thought this was for Renewal not Classic. I guess that's why you misunderstood what I was talking about.

 

I'm glad you shared that information since it does go to show that the skills aren't even the same between Classic & Renewal. So that means iRO does have the skills set differently & kRO has nothing to do with it.

 

http://irowiki.org/~...skill4/sch.html

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Intimidate

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Edited by Xellie, 12 November 2013 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:40 PM

Rogues don't have intimidate- Razzez 2013


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:38 PM

Admit that you're wrong about how Intimidate works, Razzez. You're only making things worse for yourself with every post you try to make to refute what the others have already said to this point. Not to say you're the only one in the wrong here, since you're simply agreeing with killedbytofu in saying that Intimidate is useless for a Rogue.

 

Intimidate is not worthless for a Rogue. Learn to use it and learn to look at what you're fighting.


Edited by GuardianTK, 12 November 2013 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

Hahaha I laughed so hard I almost started crying!!! :p_laugh:


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:41 PM

I think this one wins out of all the others refuted.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

Umm I don't play Classic. I never was talking about Classic & I thought this was for Renewal not Classic. I guess that's why you misunderstood what I was talking about.

 

I'm glad you shared that information since it does go to show that the skills aren't even the same between Classic & Renewal. So that means iRO does have the skills set differently & kRO has nothing to do with it.

 

Ok Im going to pretend i didn't read what i clearly just read.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:06 PM

Xellie I told you, this is a battle to be won.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:09 PM

so, what's my prize?

 


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:31 PM

The battle isnt over yet. Razzez will strike again!


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:44 AM

was it really necessary to call the dude dumb or stupid or make funof him?

Jeesus! Praises to Xellie though for proving a logical good point without being mean.

Instead of insulting a person yall could teach the person like Xellie did.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:54 AM

It's also pointless to post a screenshot, from a non-iRO game, since those(intimidate) are skills a Rogue does NOT have! Nice try though ;)

 

This needs to get pinned. Seriously.


Edited by CharAznable, 13 November 2013 - 02:06 AM.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:35 AM

was it really necessary to call the dude dumb or stupid or make funof him?

Jeesus! Praises to Xellie though for proving a logical good point without being mean.

Instead of insulting a person yall could teach the person like Xellie did.

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This. While Razzez is very stubborn about things, making fun of the guy isn't the way to shake someone of that stubbornness. I would advise ignoring him or finding more constructive ways to engage in conversation. On my end I will urge Razzez to more carefully word his proclamations to avoid people coming down on him like a ton of bricks, and to avoid getting drawn into arguments without stepping back to listen to the other side's reasoning. 


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