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#76 beaupoem

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:13 AM

please also tell him to check his facts before posting, especially to prevent spreading misleading info to new players


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:01 PM

This. While Razzez is very stubborn about things, making fun of the guy isn't the way to shake someone of that stubbornness. I would advise ignoring him or finding more constructive ways to engage in conversation. On my end I will urge Razzez to more carefully word his proclamations to avoid people coming down on him like a ton of bricks, and to avoid getting drawn into arguments without stepping back to listen to the other side's reasoning. 

 

Oda,

 

While it's nice of you to step in I don't feel it's appropriate for you to be calling me stubborn either. This thread was supposedly for asking you and/or Camp questions. All I simply did was post a question. After having done that, I found myself being questioned, & having to explain myself, to multiple people. You think that's fair or right? That has nothing at all to do with being stubborn. I just never changed my question & opinion from what it was from the beginning, regardless of all the harassment I received. If you call that being stubborn, because I won't be swayed by other peoples opinions, then so be it.

 

There was nothing that I worded inappropriately. You know damn well the same can't be said for many others. I never insulted or responded to any of the people trolling, harassing, flaming me, etc...

 

You were supposed to put an end to this harassment. You know the people who need to be urged & you also know it's not me. This thread is a perfect example. It would have helped it Camp read his pm's too.


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#78 CharAznable

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:03 PM

All I simply did was post a question. After having done that, I found myself being questioned, & having to explain myself, to multiple people. You think that's fair or right? That has nothing at all to do with being stubborn. I just never changed my question & opinion from what it was from the beginning, regardless of all the harassment I received. If you call that being stubborn, because I won't be swayed by other peoples opinions, then so be it.

 

How many time its been like this? You simply put wrong informations, such as aspd% not working as intended, while you never had clear idea of how the mechanic of it works. And again about atk%. and theres many more example of you being really insist of you're own idea, and interpretation. And people always tries to correct you. And GM almost made change to something that was never wrong. Same for Stalker/Rogue thing. Intimidate is rogue/stalker skill and you simply didn't know about intimidate being available for Rogue in both Classic/Renewal server. Just because you have you're own idea doesn't mean its always right. And you always insist that you're right for the most part, until its clear that you're wrong. You not knowing rogue having intimidate, and tried to argue that rogue is bad pvm class was just icing on the cake. 


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:40 PM

Wow you seriously didn't read my OP, & message or understand it, if that's really what you believe. It mentioned none of what you just said. Those were things brought up by other people who were arguing against the fact, that I asked about a Skill Balance being done for the Rogue Class.

 

How many times has it been like this where you just won't stop harassing me? I didn't ask anyone a question but Oda & Camp! If you recall that's what this thread if for.

 

I don't have to be a know it all like so many of you feel you have to be. I don't have to compete with your egos or be right all the time. I could care the DOG less whether I'm right or wrong. You people aren't going to stop me from posting or asking questions just because I'm not a "know it all", I don't play both Classic & Renewal, or because I don't WoE & PVP, & haven't been playing as long as you have, etc...

 

So if you can't have fun playing the game, & you need to pick on people in the forum, that's pretty sad, especially when most of you aren't even playing anymore.  Your adults & should act like it. I can tell most of you aren't children whether you act like it or not.


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#80 Xellie

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:48 PM

It's a public forum, if you can't handle your opinions being scrutinized and criticized, may I direct you to the PM button?


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:52 PM

Hmm... Once you earn a skill, you don't loose it, as you level up. So I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. There are not a "LARGE Selection" of Skills a Rogue has. Sure any class can always find things to do to level, such as quests, I'm talking about PVM, & Eden TI's. The same things every other class can do.

 

DS is only for Bows, & once again Intimidate, not only can't be used by a Rogue, it can't even be used till your transcend, & are Job 2, with many Job levels.

 

Rogues have no buffs that would help in the first place, & you are still concentrating on the wrong class, even though that one also needs work.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Rogue#Skills

these are your words are they not? you yourself said that Intimidate cannot be used by Rogue class right? dont try to argue and validate your VERY wrong info as being right and true... its things like this that make people question every thought you decide you need to post... and nobody is harassing you... you just wont let things go even after EVERYBODY has said youre wrong... http://irowiki.org/wiki/Intimidate just an FYI... do a little more reading and a little less posting....

 


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:54 PM

Oda,

 

While it's nice of you to step in I don't feel it's appropriate for you to be calling me stubborn either. This thread was supposedly for asking you and/or Camp questions. All I simply did was post a question. After having done that, I found myself being questioned, & having to explain myself, to multiple people. You think that's fair or right? That has nothing at all to do with being stubborn. I just never changed my question & opinion from what it was from the beginning, regardless of all the harassment I received. If you call that being stubborn, because I won't be swayed by other peoples opinions, then so be it.

 

There was nothing that I worded inappropriately. You know damn well the same can't be said for many others. I never insulted or responded to any of the people trolling, harassing, flaming me, etc...

 

You were supposed to put an end to this harassment. You know the people who need to be urged & you also know it's not me. This thread is a perfect example. It would have helped it Camp read his pm's too.

 

You're already wrong when you're saying the facts other people present are opinions. It's a FACT that Rogues have Intimidate. It's NOT an opinion. You're arguing a fact vs wrong fact. You were 100% wrong.

 

Yea, oda is wrong to call it stubbornness. It's pure ignorance and retardation. Maybe you should stop spamming WarpPortal forums with garbage and start reading www.irowiki.org about characters you post about before spewing out crap from your ass.


Edited by KamiKali, 13 November 2013 - 07:56 PM.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:01 PM

God Bless America.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:11 PM

Razzez, by chance are you a member of the Flat Earth Society? I'm not saying this to be mean, but you have the definition of "fact" and "opinion" confused. When you post incorrect "facts" in a public area like this, you are misleading newer players and that really isn't cool.

 

Being corrected isn't harrassment. Consider it learning.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:36 PM

Just get landmine and 1 shot hillwinds they don't JT until they take damage and landmine 1 shots them. Every rogue I made after renewal did this you can f***ing do it with your eyes closed and nothing makes you lose your skill on that map. Tada


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:40 PM

Just get landmine and 1 shot hillwinds they don't JT until they take damage and landmine 1 shots them. Every rogue I made after renewal did this you can f***ing do it with your eyes closed and nothing makes you lose your skill on that map. Tada

instructions not clear enough killed myself with landmine


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#87 yaguhLOLOL

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:17 AM

In a way;

irowiki.org isn't really reliable sometimes because it's not updated.

and didn't oda just say not to pick on the guy?

sayings hes retarded and ignorant must make yall feel better.

and don't say something bout a person as if you got room to please.

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back to the topic of this thread;

new question for GM

Is Deep Sleep Lullaby working as intended?

Oh and why is harmonize not involved with the skills Voice Lesson just like the other solo class A skills for performers?

O.O


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:18 AM

Everybody who posted on this thread did not prove in other ways other Rogues can level through pvm except for Viri -_-.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 03:05 AM

Was too busy laughing.
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#90 Viri

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:38 AM

instructions not clear enough killed myself with landmine

 

Goddamnit you're not a BR


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

Aaaaand that's all folks. 


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