348 replies to this topic

[Baturiano]

sitting in town, afk like my warlock.

 

Nerfing a class for its purpose is never a good idea. 

[Sapphic]

I still think Soul Exhale should be able to bypass the c/d.

[dallashunter]

If you nerf genetic what would they have left?

Their other skill, duh. I didn't say to nerf all their skills.

[Tofu]

If you nerf genetic what would they have left?

Teamwork.

[Baturiano]

Teamwork.

every class has teamwork nothing stands out

Their other skill, duh. I didn't say to nerf all their skills.

are you really going to kill mvps with hell plant?

 

 

Edited by Baturiano, 10 March 2014 - 06:02 PM.

[thatfool]

just a reminder, there is no cigar for doing the least damage in pvm/mvp

 

woe is a totally different aspect of the game, u dont need to kill to be rewarded.

[Tofu]

MVPs will require teamwork to kill, for once, if Acid Bomb is nerfed. Right now you just need a single genetic to Hail Mary in and spam Acid Bomb without a care in the world, and receive loot.

Without an instant death spam button on genetic, and no spammable gfist, MVPs might actually last for more than a couple of seconds before spawning their tombstone.

[Baturiano]

MVPs will require teamwork to kill, for once, if Acid Bomb is nerfed. Right now you just need a single genetic to Hail Mary in and spam Acid Bomb without a care in the world, and receive loot.

Without an instant death spam button on genetic, and no spammable gfist, MVPs might actually last for more than a couple of seconds before spawning their tombstone.

 

Makes things gear dependent like god dependent. You have to nerf the acid bomb hard or the people who have godlies will almost always get the MVP. I think if you want them to impose teamwork make the MVPs harder. If they are actually scared to tank the MVP I think thats how they'll need teamwork. That and stop introducing items that make skills do crapload of damage.

Edited by Baturiano, 10 March 2014 - 06:22 PM.

[RaveMaster]

DB Area "20x20" and 100% chance of inflict burn just imagine it in WOE... XD

[thatfool]

in woe, its pretty balance since everything can be counterable. in pvm/mvp, u pneu a gene thats bombing and u will be reported for harassing

 

its stupid rules like this that makes mvp solo'able instead of having a party and compete

Edited by thatfool, 10 March 2014 - 06:45 PM.

[dallashunter]

Makes things gear dependent like god dependent. You have to nerf the acid bomb hard or the people who have godlies will almost always get the MVP.

 

 

Isn't that how it's always been? Or, you know, implement nerf that isn't counterable by god items? Like put another or two seconds in acid bomb skill delay. So at least if a gene want to spam it fast, they need to bring a ministrel.

[Baturiano]

Kiels would still affect it. Maybe if you give major mvps lower vit but higher HP would help, That way they actually just cant rambo acid bomb to death

[ShinobiEX3]

lol

 

[bassman767]

nah, one thing to boost up the mvp is this:
give them MS mode with the unable to cast skill gone, and then put them back to normal walking speed.

Edited by bassman767, 11 March 2014 - 07:14 AM.

[CharAznable]

RK buff inc!

[D111]

It would be awesome if they buffed Some MVPs and added new Content.

 

Really I don't want to make this thread about any of that thou, All I am asking is to take another look at the cooldown, I really feel it is unnecessary.

[Tofu]

I don't think it's possible for them to entirely change the way a skill works, depending on what map you're on.

The best you could hope for, if you really want Gfist to have no sp cooldown for MVPing is that they remove the SP cooldown, and disable Gfist in PvP/WoE.

[sb120495]

This thread could have ended in the first page if people accepted that:

1)kRO put the cool down and haven't removed it yet.

2)iRO can't take it off without kRO doing it first

So whether the cool down deserves to exist or otherwise is irrelevant as it will continue to exist until kRO does something about it.

Edited by sb120495, 12 March 2014 - 10:21 AM.

[Hardc0re]

This game needs to be more of a "spam this untill it dies" game IMO.

In a perfect world Gfist should be the finishing move against an MvP, and not the only move done. You should be able to use other skills until the MvP reach a certain %HP where a Gfist will kill it, then you use it.

[PervySageMarty]

I'm only saying to keep the cd, not the SP penalty because its so stupid how we're sitting ducks in PVP/PVM everytime we use gfist.

 

Sura using Gfist in PVP/PVM? Your not playing the class right....

[Kadelia]

Because gfisting bio3/4 monsters is a waste of a soul exhale?

imo the only update gfist still needs is a patch to rename it ti Asura Strike

[ElenaGilbert]

well this prety much sums it up.. renewal problem is that to many god item/mvp card. i wonder if they make a new renewal server without any god items and mvp card, prety sure u won;t be doing 3m gfist or 500k acid bomb dmg! and actually requires minstrell since u wont have keil card

[Baturiano]

Sura using Gfist in PVP/PVM? Your not playing the class right....

 

Please enlighten me with your how to play sura guide w/o gfist in pvp/pvm(mvp)

Edited by Baturiano, 12 March 2014 - 06:17 PM.

[Memoir]

well this prety much sums it up.. renewal problem is that to many god item/mvp card. i wonder if they make a new renewal server without any god items and mvp card, prety sure u won;t be doing 3m gfist or 500k acid bomb dmg! and actually requires minstrell since u wont have keil card

People always wish for a new server just to have a fresh start. But that doesn't really go long term. Most people that wish that won't even play that long enough to earn what people have been playing that long have earned. On the other hand, most people that already have such god items and/or MVP cards would like to stay as they are since it takes time and effort(maybe luck for MVP cards) to be able to have what they have. If you own a god/MVP card I bet you would prolly be indifferent or would sell those to obtain your so called dream item.

I personally don't have gods or MVP cards. However, I do not want to start over again. Why would I want to waste all that time and effort I put into my account and just start over?

Edited by Memoir, 12 March 2014 - 06:19 PM.

[AlmrOfAtlas]

Please enlighten me with your how to play sura guide w/o gfist in pvp/pvm(mvp)

 

He's playing the class without using GFist. There's no problem with that.

 

I don't see him saying at any point that he's doing well