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#151 LordYggdrasill

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:49 PM

This thing that I call 'Big Bell Killer', it is quite OP in NCT. It gives a total of +36% on Neutral and Formless Enemies, about as much as a +12 Fall Angel Wing with Nightmare Ancient Mummy does. But of course, you need lv.160+ to be able to put a vicious mind rod on, so it wont help when you are between lv.150-159.

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Use it against Big Bells with Recognized Spells and Eden VIP Buffs(my char is at lv.162), and you get these results:

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More than capable of OHKO Big Bell even without Alchemy Gloves and Mystic Amps. :D


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

Grats, man! That's a great staff.


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 10:37 PM

Grats, man! That's a great staff.

 

Thx. What really surprises me is that, the seller vended it for only 1m. I guess he clearly failed to understand how useful this Rod is for a Warlock, so I got a lucky deal. :D If you check Ragi.al now, you will find that someone(not me) trying to sell a much weaker Vicious Mind Rod for 300m(only +25% on Big Bells with +9% on Neutral and +16% on Formless). I guess this seller overestimated the value of his rod, I wont pay 300m for an unrefined Vicious Mind Rod unless its much more superior. :P I am currently selling another Big Bell Killer Rod, which does +31% on Big Bells though.
 


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Posted 01 July 2017 - 10:52 PM

I want to find one with ~20% MDEF bypass on formless or demon or undead or boss monsters, and a >10% bonus against Ghost monsters. I saw some with 20%, but without MDEF bypass, it's quite useless. I don't need staves for leveling anymore. If I decide to max my currently 173 WL, he can already one-shot Big Bells with the gears that I have.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:03 PM

Currently I am at lv.172, and got a better Flattery Robe + Magician's Gloves. With the same Big Bell Killer from last screenshot, I am now able to deal around 240-260k damage on Big Bell without Amplification, and easily over 300k with it. It is also possible to OHKO Time Keeper with Mystic Amplification, although I am nowhere close to OHKO Arc Elder yet. I didnt wear Alchemy Gloves, but dont think it will make enough difference here. Maybe a Vicious Mind Rod with +18-20% magic damage to Demi-Human enchant will do the trick?

 

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:58 PM

Whoa, 315K to a neutral enemy! That's great!


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:33 AM

Thx, the damage was around 300-320k with Mystic Amp on Big Bell. I did this since someone saw my gears and asked me if I could OHKO Big Bell. Of course I was able to do this even a while ago, but I became curious how much damage I would be able to do now with the new gears. I am ambitious so my next task will be to OHKO Arc Elder, it wont be easy since it has 293k and it is demi-human(so no NCT combo yet). I have a +14 Glorious Destruction Staff, I will try with it next time but I dont think even a +14 GDS can get me close to OHKO Arc Elder. May need a Fallen Bishop Card to nail it, but apparently it is too expensive for me at the moment. It would kill the purpose too if I use cheats like MVP cards. :D


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:10 PM

Made a +10 SFB with 2 x True KK Cards finally, the upgrade to +10 was surprisingly lucky for me as I used only 1 Safe to 10 Certs, usually this takes 10-12. Tried to make it to +12 but couldnt with 100 HD Bradium so I gave up, will try to get +14 when next refine event arrives:

 

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With a lv.174 warlock, the damage was fantastic for my NCT test. Even with just 1 x True KK Card the damage was about identical(240-260k) to the Big Bell Killer Vicious Mind Rod(+19% against Neutral and +17% against Formless monsters. Note I used Beholder Shoes in the last screenshot to increase damage, this is not possible with SFB as Spellflow Set is needed w/o +12 Mad Bunny Shielf).

 

With 2 x True KK Card(320-340k), it is definitely the BIS for warlocks whenever Crimson Rock can be used effectively. OHKO Arc Elder is possible now, I did it with Mystic Amp(420-440k) but it can be done without. Also tried on Big Ben to see how high the damage could reach, just for curiosity. This ultimate weapon should be able to OHKO most normal mobs except for the Fire and Holy/Shadow 3/4 ones.

 

 

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The damage can be further improved with a +14 SFB, and my Flame FAW can be further upgraded. I am using a +13 OBMH for MDEF bypass, against weak MDEF mobs it is possible to do much higher damage with the new Bio 5 Hat. My flattery robe INT 6 is also unslotted, so more room for improvement. I would run another test should Mavka Card arrive on iRO, the damage against Big Bell should reach 400k+ w/o Mystic Amp easily then.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:35 PM

If you want to see the max damage you can do (I'm more than sure that you'll be able to hit 999k) go and cast Crimson Rock on a few Necromancers


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 12:19 AM

Or... you can use the calc to work out exactly how much.


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 09:05 AM

Or... you can use the calc to work out exactly how much.

Lately this is the only thing i see you post '-'  

 

"Use the calc"

 

Edit: In my opinion it's more satisfying to see it being achieved in game than to get the result in a calc, just saying


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 10:25 AM

Lately this is the only thing i see you post '-'  

 

"Use the calc"

 

Edit: In my opinion it's more satisfying to see it being achieved in game than to get the result in a calc, just saying

 

I suppose, but you can save money, time and hassle just by typing in some numbers, but hey, if people wanna do it the old fashioned guessing game way then yeah be my guest :U


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 12:48 AM

thats like telling everyone to just watch porn and root off instead of taking some time to go out, socialize, spend a few on drinks and food and eventually being together with that significant other.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:00 AM

If you want to see the max damage you can do (I'm more than sure that you'll be able to hit 999k) go and cast Crimson Rock on a few Necromancers

 

just use fiberlock gloves and be done with that 999k thingy

 

now now that staff looks delicious with freezing spell 5


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 05:35 AM

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My current equips. Int 2/3 flattery, int 3/5 faceworm (could be better here). Sold magician's gloves, got another spirit king's ring. Kinda bricked the headgear with this card, should have gone for cendrawasih one. Too bad. Got 600m left, should be enough to get some decent weapon since it is pretty much the only thing missing right now. Waitinf for christmas to reset stats and pump int/dex a bit higher (for stat instacast)

 

Pretty much 3 choices: chilly spell book for true celia cards (costs too much for me to affor it for the time being), +13-15 clean crimson rod and overupgraded vicious mind rod (crazy expensive)

 

Maybe not a biggest fish in the pond but im pretty satisified :p_idea: :p_hi:


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 01:51 PM

Finally getting around to leveling my warlock. Really was struggling to enjoy it until I got to 160 and finally got to use my Vicious Mind Rod for NCT.
 
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Posted 24 June 2018 - 08:48 PM

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Any equipment recommendations are welcome. Only level 157 so far. When partied with an AB, I can only clear endless tower to Beelzebub and then I am stuck.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 11:33 AM

No real reason to wear temporal ring without corresponding boots. If you're using survivor set I'm pretty sure you'll get more damage out of celine combo. 


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 01:04 PM

I wear Temporal ring on when im doing NCT, works better with flappy wing. I just forgot to switch headgears. I hit 42~49k per psychic wave. But brooch helps me a lot when mvping.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 06:18 PM

^^wrong combo

 

survivor set minus the circlet, plus flap wing will do better dmg

 

i did big bell @lvl 150 doing ~65k wave dmg (just eden buffs)

 

@170 was doing ~86k

 

@174 can reach ~100k with full buffs

 

that's from the neutral boosted pwave from surv set


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 08:18 PM

Dang, I must be missing something. I use flap wing, survivor set minus circlet, pdemon mask.. Well by the way, my +13 flattery doesnt have int enchant yet.
I am working on it. Probably missing that to do your damage.

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