65 replies to this topic

[LenKagamiine]

Don't you guys think the new ammount of honor needed for the new lvl 220 sets are a bit too much? Is 3k more honor then then the lvl 200 and you aren't even able to get more then 5k honor at once.

I think they should lower the price of the new sets and even because even with the new armor cd isn't active so for me (example) wanted to get the new set I would take a few months because if I played 2 or 3 cd's or any other game arena pvp game a day *(That wont ever happen)* I would still get about 100 honor or less per game. That means I would take about 2 months getting one. It just doesn't work.

*my opinion

[DoubleRose]

don't bother getting them. you'll see an almost unnoticeable increase in stats, not worth the massive effort

[iMatt]

the prices rise in relation to the level requirements and stats in a straight line - and because you can buy parts of it one by one the whole set can cost over 5000 - be happy that its not over 9000....

 

 

 

Edit: and since the difference between lvl 200 and 220 sets are not too high you can still run very well with the lower set till you got enaugh points =)

Edited by iMatt, 12 April 2015 - 09:20 AM.

[LenKagamiine]

I just think it's going to be like this:

The nonstoppers that don't even work will farm all day to ge them and will be in afvantage with stats.

In the other side the more busy people who work wont be able to farm the whole day so they will be in desvantage in stats
Thats why I always found the account locked on honor items kinda "trash"

[iMatt]

that s how mmos work, hard ingame work gets rewarded

[LenKagamiine]

Nonstoppers you mean because I am a busy person (example im now on phone) and my builds and ways I fight are very good and of course I know people who are nonstop and they get those armors in a few days that don't even have a proper build.
Thats not a way games like this should be.

Cuz even doe I have a better build I will still lose because he's non stoppin.

Edited by LenKagamiine, 12 April 2015 - 09:29 AM.

[Feuer]

think of it as a slow progression that over time, you will get. just like the valor + honor passives [if you didnt just outright buy them] 

[iMatt]

Spoiler

Progression

In nearly all MMORPGs, the development of the player's character is a primary goal. Nearly all MMORPGs feature a character progression system in which players earn experience points for their actions and use those points to reach character "levels", which makes them better at whatever they do.^[8] Traditionally, combat with monsters and completing quests for NPCs, either alone or in groups, are the primary ways to earn experience points. The accumulation of wealth (including combat-useful items) is also a way to progress in many MMORPGs, and again, this is traditionally best accomplished via combat. The cycle produced by these conditions, combat leading to new items allowing for more combat with no change in gameplay, is sometimes pejoratively referred to as the level treadmill, or "grinding". The role-playing game Progress Quest was created as a parody of this trend. Eve Online trains skills in real time rather than using experience points as a meter of progression.

In some MMORPGs, there is no limit to a player’s level, allowing the grinding experience to continue indefinitely. MMORPGs that use this model often glorify top ranked players by displaying their avatars on the game’s website or posting their stats on a high score screen. Another common practice is to enforce a maximum reachable level for all players, often referred to as a cap. Once reached, the definition of a player’s progression changes. Instead of being awarded primarily with experience for completing quests and dungeons, collecting money and equipment will replace the player’s motivation to continue playing.

Often, the widened range of equipment available at the maximum level will have increased aesthetic value to distinguish high ranking players in game. Colloquially known as endgame gear, this set of empowered weapons and armor adds a competitive edge to both scripted boss encounters as well as player vs. player combat. Player motivation to outperform others is fueled by acquiring such items and is a significant determining factor in their success or failure in combat related situations.

Also, traditional in the genre is the eventual demand on players to team up with others in order to progress at the optimal rate. This sometimes forces players to change their real-world schedules in order to "keep up" within the game-world. A good example of this is the need to trade items to achieve certain goals, or teaming up to kill a powerful enemy

 

Per (wiki) definition you have to work for your items ingame. Or you want to give every player every new item for free when you create your character?

 

Don't take this as insult now but I think you are just too lazy to farm the new sets (while you can still use older sets very well to farm those!!!) and use time as excuse - you are not the only working person which plays Rose, yet the first mocking about prices. Be happy that you have something to achieve now apart from 24/7 afk Junon idling!

[TheRealCaNehDa]

Can't I just bribe a GM/DEV to sell me the armor?  

[iMatt]

not on weekend^^

[Filipito98]

slowly all the achivements will be completed, rushing them will make things worst, my opinion ^.^

[TheRealCaNehDa]

5,000 honor +
5,000 valor  = 
Full set. 

Questions? 

[DestinyDeoxys]

How much are they for each piece? They are supposed to be x1.5 ratio (+50%) per tier up, are they still following that pattern for 220 honor

[Castanho]

I think you should keep farming instead crying here.

It's not suposed to be easy that way. What you want.. a week later and everyone have a full new honor ser? As a lot of players already do cause of the high ammount of save points they have???

 

My opinion. 

[Zurn]

Item                         200 set                 220 set

Helmet                     1,153                    1,729

Armor                      1,538                    2,307

Gauntlets                 1,038                    1,557

Boots                       1,153                    1,702

 

Total                        4,882                    7,295 

[DestinyDeoxys]

Item                         200 set                 220 set

Helmet                     1,153                    1,729

Armor                      1,538                    2,307

Gauntlets                 1,038                    1,557

Boots                       1,153                    1,702

 

Total                        4,882                    7,295 

 

Exactly as predicted, except the shoes part is off for some reason.

[Zurn]

my bad got the 5 and 3 backward should be 1,135

[IAfjiBa]

I like that there is a challange and I think it should take a time to get a very good gear.

 

This new gear also make player busy. Players get active and can enjoy the game more. I enjoy Rose Online even more now when you can play Crystal Defenders

[turnermanxi]

Don't forget you can dissamble your nicely upgraded and gem'd sets and get 30% of the points back.  Just re-upgrade the new ones and re-gem (or you can use the IM and buy perfect drills).  It'll take a few months...maybe a year?  But honestly i'm just going to re-upgrade my new set I had to get because of the stat changes, then just get points for the other and do it all over again.  Should take a fun year since I work and have college.  I mean I guess it's okay because it gives me something to do in-game but it's just a little inconvenient..  Wish the honor reward bonus's have a little more but whatever....

[Feuer]

The best way is the following

 

play GA's

Gain Honor + Valor Daily's.

Make sure you run SC's for separation drills, venu runes, pluto[or neptu?] runes and lisent U's.

Gain your honor until you have excess honor runes [approximately 130~150 should do]

Continue gaining honor until you have farmed Head, Chest, Boots. Purchase those.

Farm an additional 98 points. Use your farmed separation drills to remove gems from 200 set.

Disassemble your previous set [that you are replacing], buy the gloves [disassembling 200 set will give a 30% refund totaling 1,459 honor]

Refine your set using no catalyst to +2 past degrade warning. Continue using U's to 8~10 [can supplement with venu;s if needed]

Put in the vanu's + pluto/neptu, refine to 15's.

Reinsert gems removed with separation drills, wala.

 

That's the fastest + free way to do it not using IM. 

 

Edited by Feuer, 13 April 2015 - 07:06 AM.

[iMatt]

no new content - people complain

new content - people complain

you even got honor points for your old sets (I didn't like that) - people complain about "only" 30%

 

yeeez

 

Rush on seven drama-soaps...

[TheRealCaNehDa]

You're complaining about people complaining, and now I am complaining about that. 

[asuboy]

maybe they need to consider adding those +15 220  honor gears at the IM shop ... so those players who got work to do can eventually support the game ... wkkwkwkwkww can't wait to see that happened 

[Feuer]

^ judging by the "wkwkwk" im just gonna say no. 

btw, -totally serious now- how exatly do you pronounce that, is it like a wookie? or like that one muppet "waka-waka". I'm confused, as there's no vowels. 

Edited by Feuer, 13 April 2015 - 09:22 AM.

[Leonis]

Exactly as predicted, except the shoes part is off for some reason.

Might want to check the costs again. It is a consistent +50% increase per tier.